sad comment in baby-rearing book - Page 2

[MoonLissa]

the thread was not started with the intention of discussing CIO or avoiding the discussion of CIO - but to discuss a silly comment in a book.

Okay. Seems like a lot of useless discussing about nothing, then.

Please feel free to PM me if you've any other questions regarding this thread and the discussion or lack of discussion of the CIO method in this particular thread.

Your invitation to leave is clear. I said I would go if the post was REALLY about diaper pins. So.....I'm gone.

[HeatherSanders]

Originally posted by MoonLissa
Your invitation to leave is clear. I said I would go if the post was REALLY about diaper pins. So.....I'm gone.

Please don't take offense . . . as I certainly wasn't asking you to leave the discussion altogether. Rather that the 'subject' of the thread being/not being CIO did not need to be discussed further. Though you said you would leave it if the thread was really about diaper pins - it really isn't 'about' that either, but I'm certain I've explained myself full circle now. I apologize if I'm not speaking with clarity this evening, but again . . . I was not asking you to leave the thread.

Sometimes the 'ridiculous' or the 'everyday' although silly, makes for good conversation amidst many more intense subjects like CIO.

[Jish]

The mod of this board is stepping in to comment now. Thanks, Heather for carrying on in my absence.

My first reaction to the original post was that it was a CIO thread. There really isn't much to discuss about a diaper pin sticking your child while letting them CIO. It can go one of two ways -- it turns into a discussion of other types of cloth diapers that don't use pins, or it turns into a discussion of CIO.

I am perfectly okay with this thread continuing on as a CIO thread as long as the OP is okay with that. It seemed to be the natural direction it was going to take. If you are not, let me know and I can lock the thread and members will be free to start another thread.

For those who are really interested in debating the whole CIO issue remember that you really are preaching to the choir here at MDC when it comes to CIO. There are some members who have tried it, and some members who feel that it is fine, but they are in the clear minority. This discussion seems to arise often on various boards and I encourage members to do a search. You will find many interesting threads from days gone by.

If the discussion continues as a CIO discussion, please keep it respectful. I have my mom and stepdad staying with me and that puts me in a bad mood. I'm not a fun moderator when I'm crabby.

[famousmockngbrd]

Of course if people want to discuss CIO in the context of this thread, they are welcome to do so. It doesn't need to be locked.

Although, Jish's "preaching to the choir" comment is right on. Especially when a baby is being poked with a pin! Really, this was just meant to be a "look at this, isn't this incredible" kind of post. Which is why I put it in diapering to begin with.

I think it's ironic that the argument here isn't about CIO, but about whether or not this thread should be about CIO! If it is, it is - but again, I don't know what there is to be said about it besides *don't do it"! Honestly, I think we could get into a more interesting discussion of why the AAP would say such a thing in the first place. Do they not think being stuck with a pin is a big deal??

[Jish]

I think it's ironic that the argument here isn't about CIO, but about whether or not this thread should be about CIO!

I too find this amusing.

As far as the AAP example in the book, I can understand their theory behind it. If you subscribe to their theory, then you wouldn't want to run in right away, you want to give the baby a chance to resettle themselves, but jeez, couldn't you come up with an example that doesn't involve pain to the poor baby?

I'm not a CIO person but I have friends who do it to varying degrees.

[lilyka]

so now we are no longer talking about diaper pins (mine stuck one in her nose the other day. you better believe that even if I was doing CIO when she screamed like that you couldn't hold me back. A deaf person could ave known that was a serious cry. it was awful but anyway, jusy a little PSA - keep the diaper pins way out of reach, or just use velcro)

or CIO.

we are just talking about, talking about CIO.



sorry not that funny probably but it is late late late here.

edited - somehow I missed the last 3 posts. I am glad I am not the only one who found this amusing.

[lisabc311]

About that book.....

Is it the free one from the pediatrician? It's called, 'Your Baby's First Year"? Well, it states that it's from the AAP, but if you look on the back, it was actually put out by Similac!!! It has AAP recommendations in it, but it was not written by the AAP. I found it amusing that they emphasized formula use in it so much...go figure, it was put out by a formula company!

:bf

[famousmockngbrd]

Yep, that's the book.

[Jish]

Just to clarify, it is NOT put out by Similac. I have the copy of "Caring for your baby and young child, Birth to age 5" which the hospital gives out. My copy is five years old and they are not on the cover or in the book anywhere. The one that the pediatrician is giving out is likely a scaled down model of that book. Similac may have had a hand in getting in in the "first year" format and getting their name on the cover, but that was a recent development and they are more like a "sponsor." The copywrite belongs to the AAP.