23 month old - this goes beyond constipation - please advise - Page 3

[chasmyn]

Originally Posted by izobelle

How is your son? Is he feeling more active? Listlessness subsiding? Poops getting better? Have you tried any of those supplements, and are they working? Did you find a naturopath?

Feeling much better - thank you so much for asking

Poops...I do hope so. One of the things my neighbour/our naturopath suggested is putting him on his potty (he is used to using the potty so this isn't weird for him at all) for about 15-20 minutes every day, just as though we were expecting a poop, and reading to him like we do when he Is actually pooping. She says that mentally this can get him used to doing this every day and might help him to release the poop more easily. I think it is a great idea and am definitely doing it.

And why I didn't think before the other day to ask my neighbour the naturopath to help us with this is beyond me. I just have no idea. But nwo we're working together and she is going to do some food sensitivity testing for us both (I think, or at least for him) and see if that won't help things a bit.

[chasmyn]

Originally Posted by motocita

chasmyn, have you tried NAET? i took my 2 year old dd with multiple food allergies, and discovered that she had allergies to foods i would have never suspected - like salt, and basic vitamins like B-complex. all these major allergies prevented her from absorbing nutrients from all the incredibly nutritious foods i was giving her everyday.

!!!

SALT?!? B-complex?!? Really? Holy wow! And yes, that is my exact concern, his not properly absorbing nutrients and becoming deficient and/or toxic.

I actually don't remember the kind of testing we are going to do, but I will ask about NAET specifically.

going to an NAET initial appointment should set you back about $100-150 but you will find out on the spot all the things she is allergic to. even if you never come back for desensitization at least you will know definitively what foods to avoid.

I've learned that it is worth it, for my son's health. And it is possible that supplemental insurance will cover it, or at least part of it.

good luck to you. i'm so sorry for what your little guy is going through.

Thank you so much

[chasmyn]

izobelle - I forgot to mention, I'm an expat too! We're in Canada from the US

[Punchy Kaby]

Originally Posted by chasmyn

Yes, and I definitely have been, as much as possible. I give him SA daily in his green smoothie.

This strikes me!! I am very sensitive to oxalates as is my ds and this smoothie you describe would be VERY high oxalate. Dark green leafy veggies are high oxalate and excess vit c turns to oxalate in the body. Does your DS bruise easily? Does he have any eye pain/twitching/rubbing? I think you said he has eczema, is it itchy? An oxalate problem can be hard to pinpoint, but worth checking out the info at the Yahoo group Trying_Low_Oxalates. There are lists in the 'files' section that list oxalate values for foods. Does anyone in your family have kidney stones?

I am not around HTG tribe very often but feel free to PM me. DS and I have been on a low oxalate diet for 2 months now and have seen some huge changes. I have tried SCD, Failsafe and now low oxalate. He has bad eczema and had bad digestion. Since being on this new diet he only has a little bit of undigested food in his stool. His attitude change is what is really significant. He went from being cranky, crying all the time clinging to me ALL the time to being a happy and energetic, fun toddler. His language and comprehension exploded, it was as if he was at a standstill for a few months. HIs eczema is better but is not gone.

[Punchy Kaby]

I also wanted to add that we are seeing a BioSET practitioner (it is similar to NAET). She has been right on with the supplements for DS. Thought I would share that we use minerals in ionic water form. This form doesn't depend on digestion and is easily absorbed by the body. The one's I take taste like plain water to me-which according to my BioSET dr means I need them.
http://www.kornax.com/Angstrom_Minerals.htm

Also Quantum makes a really good B-complex liquid:
http://www.healthproductsusa.net/30_...s_b_health.htm

Yellow split peas with ghee is one of my favorite comfort foods. There are TONS of good minerals and vitamins in them and they are easy to digest. I like to mix DS's vitamins/minerals into the peas, he doesn't mind the small difference in taste. Are you using digestive enzymes with every meal? V-gest by Enzymedica is a good starter enzyme.

HTH.
Beth

[chasmyn]

Originally Posted by Nolansmum

This strikes me!! I am very sensitive to oxalates as is my ds and this smoothie you describe would be VERY high oxalate. Dark green leafy veggies are high oxalate and excess vit c turns to oxalate in the body. Does your DS bruise easily? Does he have any eye pain/twitching/rubbing? I think you said he has eczema, is it itchy? An oxalate problem can be hard to pinpoint, but worth checking out the info at the Yahoo group Trying_Low_Oxalates. There are lists in the 'files' section that list oxalate values for foods. Does anyone in your family have kidney stones?

I am not around HTG tribe very often but feel free to PM me. DS and I have been on a low oxalate diet for 2 months now and have seen some huge changes. I have tried SCD, Failsafe and now low oxalate. He has bad eczema and had bad digestion. Since being on this new diet he only has a little bit of undigested food in his stool. His attitude change is what is really significant. He went from being cranky, crying all the time clinging to me ALL the time to being a happy and energetic, fun toddler. His language and comprehension exploded, it was as if he was at a standstill for a few months. HIs eczema is better but is not gone.

Nolansmum -

Oh wow, how do we figure out if we/he are sensitive to oxalates?

It's difficult to know if he bruises easily, to be honest. He's a boy and a toddler so is covered in bruises on his legs, but...he's a boy and a toddler

He rubs his eyes when he is tired, but not really at other times that I've noticed.

He doesn't seem to be itchy even when he has bug bites, so I've no idea if he is itchy.

I joined the group so I can look into it, thanks. Awaiting authorization

No one has kidney stones that I know of.

Originally Posted by Nolansmum

I also wanted to add that we are seeing a BioSET practitioner (it is similar to NAET). She has been right on with the supplements for DS. Thought I would share that we use minerals in ionic water form. This form doesn't depend on digestion and is easily absorbed by the body. The one's I take taste like plain water to me-which according to my BioSET dr means I need them.
http://www.kornax.com/Angstrom_Minerals.htm

Also Quantum makes a really good B-complex liquid:
http://www.healthproductsusa.net/30_...s_b_health.htm

Yellow split peas with ghee is one of my favorite comfort foods. There are TONS of good minerals and vitamins in them and they are easy to digest. I like to mix DS's vitamins/minerals into the peas, he doesn't mind the small difference in taste. Are you using digestive enzymes with every meal? V-gest by Enzymedica is a good starter enzyme.

HTH.
Beth

I looked up BIOset and there is a practitioner in Vancouver, so not too terribly far away.

I haven't been using enzymes in awhile, but I restarted today. Good idea!

[Punchy Kaby]

Chasmyn,
I suggest looking around the files section of the Low oxalate group. There is a lot of info on old posts, type in symptoms (physical or behavioral) and do some searches. It took me awhile poking around to find what I needed. When you see the lists of foods and their oxalate levels you may see a lot of foods your DS is sensitive to, or you may not. When I saw that buckwheat, quinoa, millet were all high oxalate it clicked with me-we had been GF and each time we tried those grains DS had a bad reaction (mostly rashes).

There really is no definitive answer as to whether your son is sensitive to oxalates. There are some urine tests (Great Plains OAT?) that will show oxalate values in urine. When we first went on the diet DS suddenly got a huge appetite. He would wake up at 10 pm(he was already sleeping through the night at this point and didn't normally BF at this time), nurse me dry and then when he still wasn't satisfied he would chow down another meal of solids!

Good luck!
Beth

[chasmyn]

Originally Posted by Nolansmum

Chasmyn,
I suggest looking around the files section of the Low oxalate group. There is a lot of info on old posts, type in symptoms (physical or behavioral) and do some searches. It took me awhile poking around to find what I needed. When you see the lists of foods and their oxalate levels you may see a lot of foods your DS is sensitive to, or you may not. When I saw that buckwheat, quinoa, millet were all high oxalate it clicked with me-we had been GF and each time we tried those grains DS had a bad reaction (mostly rashes).

There really is no definitive answer as to whether your son is sensitive to oxalates. There are some urine tests (Great Plains OAT?) that will show oxalate values in urine. When we first went on the diet DS suddenly got a huge appetite. He would wake up at 10 pm(he was already sleeping through the night at this point and didn't normally BF at this time), nurse me dry and then when he still wasn't satisfied he would chow down another meal of solids!

Good luck!
Beth

I think you might have hit on something here with us. I have suddenly noticed lots of eye rubbing lately, so I am spending time poking around in the files and reading some of the group emails. Maybe...

I've been getting lots of blueberries into him and some high vitamin butter oil lately, plus myself drinking lots of probiotics in my green smoothie, and he has been pooping every other day for the past week, which for him is spectacular. I've no idea which of those things is affecting it, but I am hopeful that it will continue this way and keep improving - I am so delighted!