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(((Hugs)))

I am on some of the "secret" groups as well. I really believe in my "luck" and how I have planned my life. Just my luck I have an amazing man..... gone too much. LOL

On those groups they can judge people a lot I have noticed. Take the people who are depressed and told it is thier own fault and how they think..... sure.... thats gonna help them! LOL


Take it easy ok! You have made some hard choices and still are. Get away and then you can think!
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(((Hugs)))

On those groups they can judge people a lot I have noticed. Take the people who are depressed and told it is thier own fault and how they think..... sure.... thats gonna help them! LOL
While I strongly subscribe to the theory that people make their own happiness.... there are a lot of obsticles and sometimes they take the form of toxic people posing as, oh, say, a fiance who makes nice just often enough to not be labeled an overt ass. Making your own happiness often includes cutting ties with people who are nothing but negative. You will never be able to change others, just how you react to them... like getting away!
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Re birth certificate- my daughter's has her bio father's name in place where it goes, but her last name is still mine. You are not legally required to pass on the father's last name even when he is listed on the certificate.
Depending on the state, you can't even put his name on it if he isn't there to sign it himself in some.
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i'm feeling REALLY scared as to all the choices i have now as to where i can go.......its harder when i'm not being physically abused...i get worried people will minimize the effects of 'just' emotional/verbal abuse.

i also do not have my own car or money...mamas on the single forum said i should probably stay away from my mom too as she trained me up in going w/ guys like this and its true if i really think about it...its so true. she is a LOT like them. she hasn't even called me since i hung up on her. how DARE she blame this on pg hormones. her way of minimizing the situation in HER mind to keep me here so i don't 'struggle'? doesn't she think i'm struggling now? she thinks i overeact. i'm NOT. she uses a lot against me. whatever. god this is so scary.

tom didn't show up til like 10ish last night. megh and i were in bed watching a movie and i told her not to say anything to him (maybe that is wrong but i didn't want her saying 'get out of here tom...' like she's done before. i dind't want it to start anything w/ him) and she says 'what took you so long to get up here' and he says all friendly, 'i made a peanut butter sandwich. i was hungry...' and that was that. i didn't look at him ONCE. i kept my back to him and held megh...acted like i was really sleepy. i slept like crap last night.

i looked up emotional/verbal abuse to help myself really get that i am/we are being abused in this way...it helped to affirm this...and that it CAN get worse. he has had his moments where it was real bad...REAL bad...

now i have to get past this 'stuck in the muck' feeling i have...its like my feet are lead and i don't know where to go next. i don't want to go to a shelter around here...ugh. i still can't believe my mother. maybe it was cuz her boyfriend was around and she didn't want to talk to me then and was panicked...still she treated me awful. she is my own family money source. i just don't know what to do...i feel VERY let down by her. it is making me feel very depressed too.

but i know i can go ANYWHERE i want to. i just have to trust the universe i will be provided for and we will be ok...that we WILL get out of here by nov so i can have this baby elsewhere...ok so where is the question...if central oregon is out then where would i want to be...or who would i want to be by...hmmmmmmmmm.

i do not like that my MW wants to meet tom. at this point i think his part in this is irrelevant.

i just wrote my ex step dad who is a very peace loving man (he makes rainbows even worldwide for peace/love) and asked for money help. we shall see...i still would prefer central oregon...

i'm feeling so alone today. so scattered about money...how will i get out...how will i do this...where can i get the money for a uhaul truck...etc. hmmm what could i sell.
the things that jump out at me from your posts are the similarities to a relationship I had that ended in stalking and insanity for years until I moved away. I found out this guy had done this to every woman he ever dated. Because he was a good time charlie everyone looked the other way and ignored his abusive behavior until he escalated to beating a woman up in public.

The verbal abuse, domination and with-holding with regard to money, isolation, all that comes first.

The rages and the throwing things, yelling, the christmas tree out the front door thing, that's next.

Violence is the next step.

You are doing the right thing in making plans to leave. If your mother isn't supportive, do it without her. Only you know what is right for your babies.
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you put it perfectly right there. thanks sarah!
lis

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While I strongly subscribe to the theory that people make their own happiness.... there are a lot of obsticles and sometimes they take the form of toxic people posing as, oh, say, a fiance who makes nice just often enough to not be labeled an overt ass. Making your own happiness often includes cutting ties with people who are nothing but negative. You will never be able to change others, just how you react to them... like getting away!
post #66 of 67
, Lisbeth. I'm sorry you're having such a difficult time, Mama.
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Lis,
After reading what you said about your mama, I think it might not be a good idea to go live with her...is there someone else you could stay with out in OR? Have you heard anything from your stepfather yet?

It seems like it would be the most believable escape story (to Tom) that you and Megh are going to Oregon and I like your idea about storing your things at Megh's friend's house. If you don't have that much stuff, it might be cheaper to ship it once you decide where you need to be than to rent a Uhaul. Just a thought...b/c that way you wouldn't have to risk/deal with a run-in with Tom, the SIL etc.

Are you doing okay emotionally with all of this? it seems like a lot to deal with all the while trying to pretend to Tom that things are just cruising along as normal. And I worry that he might get on the computer and see all of your posts...please tell me there is no way this could happen.
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