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post #21 of 1280
7/21/07 at 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by abimommy View Post
A lot of things are wrapped up but I don't think everything was. :

There is a big hole between the end of the fight and the epilogue and I found that irritating. I could have used another chapter before the epilogue.
Oh yeah- this drove me nuts. I feel like there is more to be said but wasn't said. I just had that feeling while reading.

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post #22 of 1280
7/21/07 at 12:59pm
You know I hardly have time to post over the summer but I had to come and talk with you annettemarie. You were the first person I thought of when I finished the book at 6:30 a.m but I was just beat and had to get some sleep because we are leaving for Chicago in a bit.


Is it absolutely ridiculous that I bawled like a baby when Dobby died? I was fairly right on with my theories. I knew Harry was a horacrux, I also knew that whole Snape loved Lily thing because of a very wise ten-year-old friend. The stuff about Dumbledore was of new to me, of course.

I was happily surprised that Harry lived on to win the day, after Voldemort's attack.

Wow, though talk about a death toll. I guess Moody didn't surprise me much. The biggest surprise wasFred. I don't know why but it just took me by surprise. It was terribly sad but who else just loved it that Molly went all mother bear and started fighting like that. She might be the last person I expected to take out anyone.

I was devastated when Lupin and Tonks died leaving the little baby alone just like Harry. I was actually surprised that Harry survived the attack to be a proper godfather to him.

The happy ending epilogue was cute. I just can't believe it is over. I am still a bit stunned.
post #23 of 1280
7/21/07 at 1:05pm
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Originally Posted by Seeking Refuge View Post
It was terribly sad but who else just loved it that Molly went all mother bear and started fighting like that. She might be the last person I expected to take out anyone.
I completely forgot about mentioning this even though I told myself last night/this morning to mention it. Molly totally rocked my world when she took out Bellatrix. It was nice to see her go from worried about everyone dying to kicking some ass. She really showed what a formidable witch she is- something that I think was hinted at in the past books but never discussed.

Lupin and Tonks death- even though I expected it- the fact that they had a baby.....I cried. Sobbed.
post #24 of 1280
7/21/07 at 1:18pm
Places where I sobbed:

When Dobby died. That really got me.

When Neville killed the basilisk. He's just so brave and I love that he did something really, really important.

"'Albus Severus,' said Harry quietly...'you were named for two headmasters of Hogwarts. One of them was a Slytherin and he was probably the bravest man I ever knew.'"

Tears streaming down my face. I know it was kinda cheesy, but all of my emotion for Snape had been building since the pensieve scene and it all poured out right there.

I know there was another place, but I can't remember it now.

For all the questions left unanswered and the inconsistencies, not to mention the cheesy ending, I LOVED this book. It was exactly what I needed in an end to the Harry Potter series.
post #25 of 1280
7/21/07 at 1:22pm
Oh, and I LOVED that the Snape/Lily thing was more than just a sad, stalkerish teenage obsession. I love that they were best friends and knew each other from before Hogwarts. The history makes it so much more heartbreaking.
post #26 of 1280
7/21/07 at 1:23pm
Omg.
post #27 of 1280
7/21/07 at 1:29pm
Oh sheesh, I am such a goof I cry at even a character getting a papercut in a book.

Huge spoilers towards end
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I think I cried a little in several parts. But I BAWLED when Dobby died, just BAWLED.

I also BAWLED during the Snape part, but I love Snape, he is whole reason I read books in first place.

I did find it a little funny that Dumbledore was all "Ok so you gotta kill me 'K" and Snape is just "K" he didn't even balk. That was *exactly* what I thought was going to happen...but I expected him to balk a little bit.


I BAWLED when Harry used the Ring, er..and when Hedgwig died, and when Lupin and Tonks died..and in some other parts.
post #28 of 1280
7/21/07 at 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by abimommy View Post

I also BAWLED during the Snape part, but I love Snape, he is whole reason I read books in first place.
I was not in the Snape camp for the longest time but when my friend's ten-year-old laid out the Lily's eyes thing to me, it made too much sense to ignore.

That kid will probably teach college courses on these books someday.
post #29 of 1280
7/21/07 at 1:54pm
subbing for later- not done yet!
post #30 of 1280
7/21/07 at 1:55pm
I felt really bad for...

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Draco :/ He was so scared.


And I almost cried for...

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Hedwig RIP Hedwig


And oh my God, I could hardly believe this, but...

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as I read the part where they were like "The ministry thinks you're leaving on the 30th..." I was like Oh, snape...no...but still I held on, thinking no no, this is just...part of his plan...DENIAL...and then he used sectumsempra on George, and I was like oh...Snape How could you
post #31 of 1280
7/21/07 at 1:59pm
And hey, I have a suggestion. Since we are all probably at different spots of the book, could we maybe specify what chapter we're spoiling before doing the spoiler text?? This way we could discuss the book as we read it, without having chapters we haven't read yet get ruined for us? I'm afraid to read any of the spoiler text because it could be revealing something I Haven't got to yet!

AND AHHH, abimommy, I was reading 'regular posts' thinking I was safe if I didn't read the spoiler text!!! Nooooooooooooooooooooo!
post #32 of 1280
7/21/07 at 2:02pm
WARNING! EPILOGUE SPOILER


And am I a total geek for NOT hating the epilogue? I know most people wanted a detailed explanation of what happened to each and every character, but then it would be like a bad 80's movie where they do a freeze frame close up on each person with their fate written underneath. "Minerva McGonagall was headmistress for 5 years then retired to Spain," "Lucius Malfoy had a transforming spiritual awakening and ended up teaching basketball to underprivileged muggles." And who wants to go into a huge explanation of all the little narrative details that wouldn't fit in elsewhere? How exhausting after what just happened!

Wouldn't that cheapen the huge emotional impact the preceding few chapters had? I think the epilogue had to be short and sweet and happy. I know it was resplendent with cheese and it made me cringe a little at times, but in a good way. I couldn't really imagine it working any differently.
post #33 of 1280
7/21/07 at 2:06pm
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Originally Posted by moonfirefaery View Post
And hey, I have a suggestion. Since we are all probably at different spots of the book, could we maybe specify what chapter we're spoiling before doing the spoiler text?? This way we could discuss the book as we read it, without having chapters we haven't read yet get ruined for us? I'm afraid to read any of the spoiler text because it could be revealing something I Haven't got to yet!

AND AHHH, abimommy, I was reading 'regular posts' thinking I was safe if I didn't read the spoiler text!!! Nooooooooooooooooooooo!
I thought the whole point of this thread was to be able to discuss the book freely without having to spoiler text everything. Am I wrong?
post #34 of 1280
7/21/07 at 2:14pm
you guys read the epilogue too? I read it in the store when I went to get dd's copy. I loved the epilogue!

Holy crap ok I'm leaving the thread now I can't believe you guys already FINISHED IT.
post #35 of 1280
7/21/07 at 2:22pm
AH!!!

*runs screaming from moonfirefaery with a hammer*

I'm Sorry!
post #36 of 1280
7/21/07 at 2:30pm
***GENERAL SPOILERS, TO ASK QUESTIONS***



What was up with Percy's 11th-hour arrival? He was high enough in the Ministry that he should have known Scrimgeour had been killed, not "resigned," and rejoined his family right then.

And why'd she have to pick on the twins? My baby boy has the same name as the dead one. I expected Charlie to be the Weasley who bought it, or maybe the dad.

Oliver Wood carried Colin Creevey's body back up to the castle, but I don't remember them mentioning Wood arriving to fight. I'm sure it's there.

And re: the epilogue, what was 19-year-old Teddy doing on the Hogwarts Express, snogging Fleur's kid? The students graduate at 17 or 18.

I like how Voldemort was so dense that in the end, he killed himself. Like Crabbe.

Love that Kingsley became Minister. Loved that Snape had a nearly lifelong relationship with Lily.

How in the *world* are they going to film this book?

The best parts for me were the ones that showed Neville had the skill set to be the Prophecy child; like when he pulled Gryffindor's sword from the sorting hat. He "saved the day" in a very trivial way in Book 1, and it's as gratifying to see HIS arc come full-circle as it is to see Harry's.
post #37 of 1280
7/21/07 at 2:39pm
I haven't read it yet, but I like being spoiled Can someone tell me about Aunt Petunia? Did she end up helping Harry? Did she know more than she let on? Anything else special about her?
post #38 of 1280
7/21/07 at 2:44pm
I can't get the book away from dd long eenough to read it!! Please say Snape is good!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please!



post #39 of 1280
7/21/07 at 2:52pm
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Originally Posted by hlkm2e View Post
I haven't read it yet, but I like being spoiled Can someone tell me about Aunt Petunia? Did she end up helping Harry? Did she know more than she let on? Anything else special about her?
The Dursleys go into hiding in the early chapters. Petunia is present as a child in Snape's memories. Turns out she was extremely jealous of Lily's abilities (which I suspected from Book 1, when she had a bitter rant about Lily in the cabin) and even wrote to Dumbledore, BEGGING him to let her in Hogwarts, too. She is part of the breakdown of the friendship between Snape and Lily, because Snape hurts Petunia with a tree branch when he is 10. For all the good it does her, Lily tries to choose her sister over Snape.

Dudley is the Dursley surprise this time. He doesn't want Harry to leave them, and seems genuinely concerned with Harry's future.
post #40 of 1280
7/21/07 at 2:53pm
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Originally Posted by Mom4tot View Post
I can't get the book away from dd long eenough to read it!! Please say Snape is good!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please!
Snape is good. Human, but good.
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