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post #81 of 1280
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Dumbledore answers this, I think. I can't quite remember where though, so it might take me a while to find it. I'll be back later with my/Dumbledore's answer.
if I remember correctly it's because Harry can love, can show remorse, etc... Voldie can't enter Harry's mind because these emotions that he doesn't feel in his own body, causes him great pain.
post #82 of 1280
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if I remember correctly it's because Harry can love, can show remorse, etc... Voldie can't enter Harry's mind because these emotions that he doesn't feel causes him great pain.
But he didn't mind in Books 5 or 6? That confused me.
post #83 of 1280
Okay, that took less time than I expected. Annettemarie, the answer ( or what I believe the answer to be) is on page 684/685 of the US edition of Deathly Hallows. It is one of the last times Dumbledore/Snape talk (the pensieve scene).

Dumbledore says, in answer to Snape's question of why Dumbledore confides so much in a boy who has a direct connection to Voldemorts mind... "Voldemort fears that connection. Not so long ago he had one small taste of what truly sharing Harry's mind means to him. It was pain such as he has never experienced. He will not try to possess Harry again, I am sure of it. Not in that way."
post #84 of 1280
I was disappointed with the ending as well. To finish the battle and then be 19 years in the future, sending their children off to Hogwarts was too much for me, having Draco there. : It felt like a cop out to me. I wasn't too fond of Harry dying and coming back, it felt like Meredith all over again for those GA fans who know what I'm talking about.
post #85 of 1280
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Originally Posted by gealach View Post
Okay, that took less time than I expected. Annettemarie, the answer ( or what I believe the answer to be) is on page 684/685 of the US edition of Deathly Hallows. It is one of the last times Dumbledore/Snape talk (the pensieve scene).

Dumbledore says, in answer to Snape's question of why Dumbledore confides so much in a boy who has a direct connection to Voldemorts mind... "Voldemort fears that connection. Not so long ago he had one small taste of what truly sharing Harry's mind means to him. It was pain such as he has never experienced. He will not try to possess Harry again, I am sure of it. Not in that way."
Dumbledore (and Ron for that matter) "just knowing" things sort of got on my nerves. It was a little too deus ex machina for my taste.

Peony, I loved the resurrection imagery with Harry dying and coming back to life. As a Christian, I thought this book had some really cool stuff to say that will hopefully shut up the "OMG! It's witchcraft!!!" crowd forever.

ETA: And thanks for looking that up. I have Babymort on my lap and couldn't grab my copy.
post #86 of 1280
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Originally Posted by gealach View Post
Okay, that took less time than I expected. Annettemarie, the answer ( or what I believe the answer to be) is on page 684/685 of the US edition of Deathly Hallows. It is one of the last times Dumbledore/Snape talk (the pensieve scene).

Dumbledore says, in answer to Snape's question of why Dumbledore confides so much in a boy who has a direct connection to Voldemorts mind... "Voldemort fears that connection. Not so long ago he had one small taste of what truly sharing Harry's mind means to him. It was pain such as he has never experienced. He will not try to possess Harry again, I am sure of it. Not in that way."
See that's what made me think of the emotions that caused him that the great pain.
post #87 of 1280
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Oh, and the other thing that frosted my twinkie?

"Yeah, I just tried to remember what you hissed at the sink back when we were second years and just sort of hissed in the general direction of the pipes, and bing, bang, boom, next thing you knew we had basilisk fangs. Who knew Parseltongue was so easy?"

Ok.
post #88 of 1280
I'm sitting here trying to decide if I want to start rereading the book right now or wait a day or two and let some more sink in.
post #89 of 1280
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I went and saw Hairspray tonight cause I needed a Potter break.

Oh, want to see cute kid pics?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...cture_1377.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...cture_1378.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...cture_1382.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...cture_1384.jpg

GoodWillHunting made the Gryffindor longies. I have more pics on my LJ if anyone wants to see them.
post #90 of 1280
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Oh, and the other thing that frosted my twinkie?

"Yeah, I just tried to remember what you hissed at the sink back when we were second years and just sort of hissed in the general direction of the pipes, and bing, bang, boom, next thing you knew we had basilisk fangs. Who knew Parseltongue was so easy?"

Ok.
Yeah, that was odd. :

So when the part of Voldie's soul left Harry, did he lose the ability to speak/understand Parseltongue?

I would of liked to see what happened to Kreacher, I was starting to like him.


I cried so hard when Dobby died, I just loved him. I even named our dog after him.
post #91 of 1280
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How about the house elves hacking at everyone's ankles with kitchen tools? That cracked me up.
post #92 of 1280
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I went and saw Hairspray tonight cause I needed a Potter break.

Oh, want to see cute kid pics?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...cture_1377.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...cture_1378.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...cture_1382.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...cture_1384.jpg

GoodWillHunting made the Gryffindor longies. I have more pics on my LJ if anyone wants to see them.
They are so cute! Those longies....:
post #93 of 1280
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I know! And Babymort looks like he wants to do an Unforgivable on me for squishing him.
post #94 of 1280
Today was Harry Potter day at my house.

At the beginning of the summer, I started reading the first one to DSS, who's old enought to appriciate them now (he'll be nine in 2 weeks) and now, DSS is half way thru the third one.

DH is finishing up the first one, because he was feeling left out of our (DSS and me) conversations.
(The last straw was when DSS said that he was a wizard, I was a witch, and DD was a half-blood. "Why is DD a half-blood?" asked DH. "Because you're a muggle," responded DSS. While I was on the floor rolling with laughter, DH decided he didn't like being out of the loop.)

And I read the Deathly Hallows. I'm done now, and OH.MY.GOSH.

Things I Loved: (SPOILERS!!)

1. The metaphysical, "near death experience" handling of Harry's almost-final dealings with Voldemort.

2. The names: Xenophilius (Lover of Strange Things); Harry and Ginny's kids, Ron and Hermione's kids (Rose- same first letter as dad, Hugo- same first letter as mom); the aliases used by the people on Potterwatch; the names of Dumbledore's family members, etc.

3. (This one is a little bizarre, but stick with me.) How the Death Eater reign of terror was so similar to the Abolitionist movement in the pre-Civil War U.S., and ESPECIALLY similar to the Holocaust. More so in this book than the others, I felt like she was really trying to make a point, and, in some way, prepare kids for the emotional impacts of the uglier parts of our history.

4. The way she explored the notion of the "other". Purebloods vs. mudbloods, non-human magical creatures vs. wandbearers, wizards vs. muggles, death eaters vs. blood traitors, etc. I thought she was pretty brilliant in the way she made her point in that, if you force people to take sides, pretty soon there's no one left.
Also, I loved it when Bill explained to Harry about goblin's notions of ownership and stealing, and how they're very different from human perceptions. How Bill made it clear that while he did not agree with goblin notions, he understood and respected them.

5. I LOVED it when Harry stood up to Lupin about not killing Stan. How if he was going to kill people just for being in his way, he was no better than Voldemort. I also was proud when Harry refused to kill (or allow to be killed) Malfoy and his cronies.

6. I actually liked it when Harry, Ron, and Hermione were in the woods. Even tho' that was the darkest part of the book for me, it was reminiscant of hiding from Nazis or slaveowners. (See number 3.) I thought she made a great point about how, even people who survive reigns of terror by hiding or going out on the lam, the lack of contact with larger society is dehumanizing, and the survivors bear the scars of that, even if they escape torture and abuse.

7. That Molly Weasley killed Bellatrix Lestrange! I am so happy that Molly got to do it! She has always been one of my favorite characters, and was just elated that she got to dispatch Bellatrix.

I just love the Weasleys in general. They have been my favorite characters. Their house has been the one I've always wanted for myself: welcoming, interesting, and magical, to such a great extent that no one cares if it's nice or not.

The only thing that I outright hated in this book was that Hedwig died. And right off the bat. Not that I wanted anyone to die, but Hedwig?! She's an innocent.

On the whole, I'm glad I'm done reading, because I haven't even brushed my teeth today. :
post #95 of 1280
Wow this thread got long!!!

No, it's my fault! At the beginning of the thread people were using the spoiler text, and I didn't notice until after I got to the second page that it had been abandoned. I actually forgot the little I read here as I was immersed in the book, so it was all still a total shock!

I have to admit...I lost faith in Snape. I feel awful! I knew he was good, I knew it, but then after the first few chapters, I just thought I must have been wrong. I really hate the way he died.

The epilogue was okay, but I think it could have been more descriptive. I'd have liked some hints about other characters. Not necessarily a "so and so did this, so and so did that..." but just hints, about Luna, about the professors, George...

And hey! How come no one named their kid after Fred?!?!

It took me all day to read it. I was actually afraid to get online much, with the exception of peeking in here earlier today. I didn't want to accidentally see anything DH has the book with him but can't read it until later tonight. I was on the phone with him and I couldn't resist just going "Oh it's terrible, terrible...so much death!" and he was like "OKAY HANGING UP NOW!" lol. It will take him a longer time than me to read it. He reads really slow. I am going to have to read my copy again, but more slowly this time to take everything in.
post #96 of 1280
I laughed, I cried, I am somewhat sleep-deprived.

My son is still reading it. My brother is still reading it. I have no one IRL to talk to about it!!!

I took breaks and tried to slow down and savor it, but ended up devouring the book.

I'll wait a bit, let it all settle and start reading it again.

I am a happy reader.

post #97 of 1280
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Originally Posted by annettemarie View Post
Oh, and the other thing that frosted my twinkie?

"Yeah, I just tried to remember what you hissed at the sink back when we were second years and just sort of hissed in the general direction of the pipes, and bing, bang, boom, next thing you knew we had basilisk fangs. Who knew Parseltongue was so easy?"

Ok.
Yeah... it was weird. But, if I remember correctly, all Harry hissed was the parseltongue equivalent of "OPEN". And, I think Ron has heard Harry say that more recently... maybe even in the final book when trying to open the snitch? So, I don't think it has been 4 years since he heard it. But, still, it was odd.

Plus, wouldn't getting all the way into the chamber to where the basilisk died and knocking out a few fangs take a while? How were they back so quickly? I have a feeling a lot more of that scene was originally written and edited out. It was weird to just have Ron and Hermione show up out of nowhere and announce they had basilisk fangs and had destroyed a horcrux.
post #98 of 1280
She said two deaths, and then there were soo many. I was so sad that Teddy was orphaned. Seems unnecessary Did we find out who raised him? I read very fast so I might have just not picked up on it.

I'd have liked to have learned more about Snape and Lily. I also was hoping for some kind of real redemption from Draco. You don't really get to see how he turns out. I felt so sorry for him throughout the book.

I loved Molly using the B word, she is one of my fav characters.

You know, I don't think, after this book, anyone will be calling these children's books. Although, they should have realized after the 4th that these weren't kiddie tales.

I had a problem with the big 19 year gap too. :/ I would have liked some reunification scenes, some good snogging, maybe a wedding scene.

I can't believe someone read it in six hours!! It took me like... 10? It was a while! I am going to read it again real slow over the next few days just to take it all in. I can't believe it is really over!
post #99 of 1280
Just finished. Didn't get it until around 1pm, and I had to deal with interrupting kids and dinner with my family.... GEEEZ

And then I wrote up a post and it was lost. Darn server too busy.

Suffice to say. Wow. What a book!

My mom called to ask if I wanted to go shopping and I said 'ON HARRY POTTER DAY!?!?''
post #100 of 1280
didn't Tonks and Lupin name Harry as Teddy's godfather? Doesn't that mean that he would have raised him? Who did raise him?
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