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post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
2 1/2 years ago, we gave MIL our 98 mazda protege b/c it had 170k miles on it. It's now got 190k on it and she's looking to get a new used car. We'll have to get the loan and have her pay it b/c her credit's not that great (never built back up after her divorce years ago and she lives on ssi). I don't worry at all about her paying it- she watches our kids FT while I'm in school and she needs something dependable/reliable.

I've looked on craigslist, at a few dealers websites, and the newspapers. We have the time to find the just right car. We're thinking of spending around 5k. I don't like domestic cars, so would prefer honda, toyota, mitsubishi, mazda, etc. Honda/toyota the obvious favorites.

So, give me your best tips for shopping for and purchasing a used car. thanks
post #2 of 22
You can fly to Alabama and buy my 02 Ford Focus (ugh only 25MPG in a good week). 60K miles, still under warranty. We're saving for a new car for me. :P

Other than that, EBAY. You can get great prices on eBay - you can even find your local dealerships selling vehicles there. We have a local dealer selling the new Santa Fes way under MSRP. When we go into the dealership that's part of what we're going to use as a bartering chip (and hopefully some cash to go with it).

Good luck!
post #3 of 22
Thread Starter 
Didn't think about ebay! Thanks.

Sorry, I don't think we're up for a trip to alabama, but good luck selling!!
post #4 of 22
With ebay, though, don't buy sight unseen. My brother bought his first car on ebay and it was in much worse shape than was represented to him.

If you have a mechanic you trust, call and ask him to let you know if he hears of a car that meets the spec. that you want. A lot of times people will let their mechanic know if they are thinking of selling their car, or the mechanic will have a bulletin board up on the wall. If he's been taking care of the car, the mechanic will be able to tell you if it has any problems, if it's been well maintained, etc. Since you want foreign cars, ask around with mechanics who specialize in foreign cars, especially Hondas and Toyotas.
post #5 of 22
I have found all my cars on autotrader.com. I got an awesome awesome awesome 2000 Toyota Solara (my dream car!) on there and a Grand Am. I got rid of the Grand Am, horrible car, to get the Solara. I love autotrader.
post #6 of 22
Before you purchase a car, get the vin number and go to www.itsalemon.com and find out if there have been reports made about the car. It helped us avoid a lemon and save us money in repairs.
post #7 of 22
We've used cars.com twice now with great success. Make sure to get a carfax report. The dealers around here all provide them on their cars.
post #8 of 22
We used to belong to AAA and we bought our CRV through their car buying service. It was sooo awesome! They have a national database of cars in their warehouses. All you have to do is give them some details like what kinds of cars you are looking for and your price range. They will bring up what they have in the computer system. With our car it took about a week and they found our current car and a minivan that had a lot more miles on it, and both were the same price. We went for our car. The price was very good and they check all their cars before selling them to make sure they are in working order. It's been about 4 years and we are still very happy with our car. It was worth the $40 membership to AAA.

BTW our CRV was in New Mexico and they shipped it to us no extra cost.
post #9 of 22
Do you have a CarMax near you - I bought my last car through them, and I don't think I'll ever buy another car from anyone else. They don't negotiate on pricing, what you see is what they charge, and their customer service has been great.

Even if you don't have one in your area, I recommend using their website to confirm prices, etc.

I have heard that their prices may be a hair higher (although the cost of our car seemed comparable), but not having to deal with the negotiating made it worth it for me.
post #10 of 22
Thread Starter 
Great ideas, thanks. It's so nice to have a sounding board!
post #11 of 22
I've also used auto trader a lot although the magazine version rather than online. And I want to emphasize to have any car checked over by a good quality mechanic. We do inspection at our shop and about 90% of the time we either save the customer from a ghastly mistake or we find issues that they can use to bargain down the price. Do not just trust a car fax report, they really tell you very little about the car's history (only if it has been in a MAJOR accident...fender-benders, water damage, and mechanical things will not show up).
post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by straighthaircurly View Post
Do not just trust a car fax report, they really tell you very little about the car's history (only if it has been in a MAJOR accident...fender-benders, water damage, and mechanical things will not show up).
My sister ended up buying a stolen car with a stellar carfax report. Carfax did NOTHING for her. Not. A. Thing.

Instead, I've heard that you can take the VIN# to your insurance folks and they can search their database for stolen or problematic vehicles....and it should be free.
post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by ohmtaretu View Post
My sister ended up buying a stolen car with a stellar carfax report. Carfax did NOTHING for her. Not. A. Thing.

Instead, I've heard that you can take the VIN# to your insurance folks and they can search their database for stolen or problematic vehicles....and it should be free.

That is exactly what this site does. We looked at one car with 22 reports on it!!!
www.is-it-a-lemon.com
post #14 of 22
Thread Starter 
Good thought about calling the insurance company. i never would have thought of that, but it definitely makes sense.
post #15 of 22
Thread Starter 
It's so hard b/c w/our (her) price range, we're looking at either cars as old, with almost as many miles or cars I'm not really *too* comfortable buying used. Daewoo, for example. Even Kia. We have a Kia sedona we bought new and it's great, but a used one, I'm just not sure about.

We don't have a real mechanic we use, as our cars are still under warranty and anything we need goes to the dealer. We used to use a mobile, come to you, mechanic, but he's not always available at the drop of a hat and it costs $50 to get him to come out. Of course, if he catches something, that's well worth the money, but if we look at 10 different cars, that adds up.

I'm thinking for better deal, it's better to go private party, but for convenience and not driving all over the world, going to a dealer is better. I really like to see in person before buying, so online is going to be sort of rough.
post #16 of 22
Have you considered a Toyota?
post #17 of 22
Thread Starter 
Toyota and Honda are my top 2 choices. But, I'm still finding high miles. I know those cars are designed to go for a long time, but it's hard to spend 5k on something that has 200k miles, you know?
post #18 of 22
we bought ours '97 for 3995 and it had over 100,000 but rocks!
post #19 of 22
i'm curious what you dont like about domestic cars. we were recently looking for a used car for my mother in the $3,000-$4,000 price range. my uncle wanted to get her a toyota camry because they have such high ratings. i looked in the classifieds, craigslist, ebay, etc, and ALL the japanese cars in her price range were (like you're finding) high mileage and/or older. it seems like ALL smaller cars and cars that have high MPGs have gone up in value or held onto it the past few years. (i sold cars 3 years ago. based on what we were selling cars for then and what my car is worth now, my car- a saturn- has only depreciated about $2,000 in the past 3 years.)

we ended up getting her a 2003 chevy impala with 124,000 miles on it from the north carolina state surplus auction. the state basically auctions off former police and fleet cars. if arizona has something like this, its totally something to look into. this specific car was used to transport prisoners. its also designed to last well over 200k. (it has the highway patrol package, which means it has things like a heavy duty alternator, something that monitors tire pressure, power steering fluid monitor, and more. and the state keeps the vehicles well maintained.) we got the impala vs a malubu, taurus, crown victoria (all for sale from state surplus), or the camry because the 2003 impala had a 9.2 customer rating from edmunds.com. (in comparison, the 2003 camry had a 9.0 customer rating.) and it got 29 mpg highway, driving mostly in the mountains of west virginia with the AC on.

i used to sell cars, so i have a few suggesions for financing (since it sounds like that's your plan). 1st, can you cosign for your mom? ie, have your mom on the loan to help build up her credit? have the bank/credit union/car dealership try it with and without your mom on the loan. sometimes you'll get a better rate without her on it, sometimes it'll be the same, and sometimes it'll be more. the loan officer or finance manager will be able to check the credit reports and know what the best plan is. (also, get copies of your credit reports right now to be sure there's nothing incorrect on them.)

2nd, have you considered purchasing or leasing a brand new car? IME, interest rates are lower on new cars (and current model year or last year's used cars) than on used cars. you may be able to get a brand new car with a full factory warranty for a little more than a used car. also IME, interest rates are lower on leases than financing a new car. (you'd have to check with the dealership and compare.) it seems like she drives about 8,000 miles a year, so even the low-mileage leases they advertise on TV and in the classifieds may work out. (then you could save money during the lease and buy it out at the end, so you get the benefit of a lower interest rate, plus any additional incentives/cash back.) its almost the end of the model year, so dealerships will be trying to get rid of the 2007's.

and now that i'm thinking more about it, think about leasing a car for mom. if you finance $5,000 for 3 years, that's about $160 a month with a 10% interest rate. interest rates are normally higher the older the car is. 3 years from now, who knows how much work you will have had to put into this used car and what it will be worth. for a little more a month, you should be able to lease a civic, corolla, etc.

i think i gave this example before. in 2005, while a family friend was pregnant with twins, she was considering getting a used minivan (probably something like a caravan) to replace her 2000 dodge stratus. she saw a 2000 minivan she liked, and the sales guy said she'd be able to get the same payment (about $220 a month) on the van as on her stratus. (she would have traded the stratus.) she had no clue what the term was, how many miles were on it, the service/owner history of it, etc. the sales guy told her what she wanted to hear: $220 a month payment. so here's a 5 year old minivan, probably had at least 60k on it. (avg miles per year are 12-15k.) and i was assuimg that the loan would be for 5 years. so if she bought this van, 5 years later it would be a 10 year old minivan with at least 120k on it and would be worth about $1,000. then think about all the work and money she would have to put into it. then think about if she leased a van for a similar payment: she would have a brand new van with a full warranty. no worries about being stranded at the side of the road with 3 kids in the middle of winter. any work that would need to be done would be covered by warranty (except brakes, tires, etc). and many people say with leasing, you get nothing out of it at the end. but that's not always a bad thing. most people who have a 3-4 year old car are upside down, meaning they owe more on the car than its worth. however, at the end of the lease, if the car is worth less than the buyout, then its the bank's problem, not yours.
post #20 of 22
Thread Starter 
Thanks mysticprincess- I remember some of your posts before.

The reason I'm generally against domestic cars is they just generally aren't as good, IMO. They're really hit or miss. If you get a good one, they'll go forever, but it's just as likely to get a bad one and it's a nightmare. I bought a 91 mercury sable (in 2000) that had only 36000 miles. I had it for 4 years and it was broken more often than not. The a/c compressor went out (in AZ, that's really necessary), I hd to replace the CV boots/axle, the radiator, the door stopped working, the radio wnet out (not a big deal, but with only 36k miles, it should work). It was really nice for about 6 mos, then ended up sitting in my driveway more often than not. My dad had a good experience w/a Ford Festiva, but that's about it. It's just my general prejudice, I suppose.

If we do finance, we'll get either a personal or auto loan from the bank beforehand. We'll probably just do the financing ourselves b/c she has very little income and it will likely be a much lower interest rate just for us. Honestly, if she really wants to be on it, that would be fine.

We won't do a lease, but have talked about getting a new car. Actually, we've talked about having her take over payments on dh's scion and getting him a new one. That's a possibility still.

Thanks for the input.
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