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[mlia]

K - I should have gotten one of your dipes way back when before you got so big and popular!

Anyway - I am glad to see we all can discuss this reasonably! That is ALWAYS a positive sign to me!

[mamaduck]

Originally posted by Mizelenius
Actually, not to be smart alecy (this is meant sincerely), but you probably could post that and keep it on topic in gentle discipline. Kittens are a wonderful tool for teaching gentleness but are also challenging in the respect that children may need to be taught (disciplined) how to treat them with care.

Huh? Only if I honestly wanted to make a point about discipline. But if I was just trying to make it *appear* to be on topic so that I could post where my friends are, than I think it would be manipulative and I wouldn't do it.

I posted about my new kitties in TAO.

BTW, if Diapering gets a subfolder for general chit-chat, than GD is going to want one too. So is pregnancy, and nursing, and so is activism. Spirituality will probably argue for one too -- only actually, you'll probably get christian mommies asking for a forum, and UU mommies asking for a forum, and islamic mommies asking for one too... and so on. It sort of misses the whole point eventually, doesn't it?

[Nikki Christina]

Originally posted by Lea
I also have this complaint aswell, though. I posted that I had bees in my house a few weeks ago in TAO and not one person posted to say, goly gee that sucks mama, sorry you're having a sh**ty day blah blah blah" Now if I'd posted it in Diapering I'd have had at least 5 responses I am sure. I guess it doesn;t matter in the grand scheme of things, but its just made me feel sad.

yeah.. they whine we dont post there.. but then we do & nobody cares.. so what should we do.. post & keep being ignored..I dont have time for that

like I said..I want friends on this board because i do realise their are incrediable women here.. but I dont want to have to have to hunt over 50 (or however many forumns there are) forumns just to get to know a few people

[BowNessMonster]

BTW, if Diapering gets a subfolder for general chit-chat, than GD is going to want one too. So is pregnancy, and nursing, and so is activism. Spirituality will probably argue for one too -- only actually, you'll probably get christian mommies asking for a forum, and UU mommies asking for a forum, and islamic mommies asking for one too... and so on. It sort of misses the whole point eventually, doesn't it

good point

[frogertgrl]

Originally posted by Nikki Christina
[yeah.. they bitch we dont post there.. but then we do & nobody cares.. so what should we do.. post & keep being ignored..I dont have time for that crap

like I said..I want friends on this board because i do realise their are incrediable women here.. but I dont want to have to have to hunt over 50 (or however many forumns there are) forumns just to get to know a few people

I don't know who you are referring to as 'they', NC, but I really think these are extremely harsh words to assign to anyone at MDC.

Sorry you don't want to 'hunt over 50...' forums. Maybe if you checked and realized there aren't 50 forums you might feel better?

This is all probably moot since posts will be moved by moderators to the appropriate forums, whether people agree or not. (and please, if you don't agree, put it in a PM to a mod and don't violate the User Rules).

I should think that if people want to protect the mods from taking time to move inappropriate posts, then one should post in the appropriate forum in the first place. That's the most direct way to protect the moderators time.

Unless one believes that the moderator shouldn't move their posts ever.

Perhaps if one wants to receive a certain number of responses to their post, they can alert their 'friends' to come and check out their post. The less people are willing to adhere to the forum headers, the more the mods will work to keep posts where they belong.

I hope everyone realizes that sometimes it's tough to know where a post does belong (as MissGrl has pointed out). But clearly, this is not the issue when people outright refuse to post in an appropriate forum because they do not want their 'friends' to miss their post. Since the 'friends' don't know MDC, don't venture out of one forum, then presumably, all the MDC rules don't apply and anything goes.

Hardly seems fair to the rest of us, tho.

[Midnightowl]

I guess I'm among those who are confused about what is off-topic. I am relatively new here, compared to some, so I don't have the liberty of knowing how things have been since the beginning of the forums.

If someone posts an introduction here, and we immediately blast them for not posting it in the "getting to know you" forum, that's not very welcoming or friendly. How am I supposed to get to know the moms here in diapering? I want to know people who have similar interests. I really don't feel I have anything to offer moms who are trying to decide whether or not to vaccinate or those who have had homebirth. But I think I have a lot to offer a mom who is interested in cloth diapering.

It's not that I think all the women here at MDC in other forums aren't worth getting to know. I'm certain they are fascinating people. I'd love to have the time to talk to everyone, but there's just too many of us for me to try in the limited amount of time I have online each day.

I was a semi-regular poster on a diapering forum elsewhere that has just about died because people aren't going there to share. If this ceases to be a fun, friendly place to hang out -- if it loses it vibrancy and depth -- then it will lose members. This whole thread just making me sad.

[AndreaBash]

Originally posted by Midnightowl


It's not that I think all the women here at MDC in other forums aren't worth getting to know. I'm certain they are fascinating people. I'd love to have the time to talk to everyone, but there's just too many of us for me to try in the limited amount of time I have online each day.

Exactly! If you have a certain amount of time to spend every day, it makes sense that you would spend that time where you'd find the highest concentration of people with common interests.

I am sure there are people with whom I have things in common in other forums, but this is all I can handle right now... and at least here I KNOW that I have something in common with everyone.

[Nikki Christina]

there are over 50 forumns.. there are 43 main foumns on the main page.. not counting suggestions, practice,practitiner database, rules..

open up some forumns & their are even more subforumns

I guess I am aggravated because I have been here 3 months. 700 something posts & I dont really now anyone ..I make one post in TOA that noone replied too ..which really hurt my feelings & I almost left the board
then i make another & to me it seemed to fit the board.. then i have to chase it down for being moved
& then I also added myself to the rollcall at special needs forumn ..I even spent 3 hours updating my sons webpage before doing so..& I dont think anyone has seen it

i have other posts on their appropriate boards & not many replies

this is the first time in my life I have had a hard time feeling like I was part of the community & no one would notice if this was my last post..


it would be one thing if TOA was visited by the majority of the board & people got to know each other there & then branched out for things more forumn specific
but I do not find that to be the case here at MDC

my point is..I realise that their are some senior members here who allready have roots & their friends..
but how is a newbie suposed to do that?

[Midnightowl]

Nikki,

My husband and I were talking earlier today about how message boards are really a lot like high school. There's always going to be a group of "popular kids" who get laughs, kudos and responses no matter what they say. Then there's also those of us who are in the background, who make the same jokes and don't even get noticed! It's been that way on every message board I've ever been on.

But it really has seemed more welcoming here at MDC overall to me. I'm sorry that hasn't been your experience.

I'd love to get to know you better. I've clicked on your Web site in your sig several times to see pics of your beautiful children.

[pb_and_j]

Originally posted by Midnightowl
This whole thread just making me sad.

ITA Lisa. I guess I just don't really see the problem the OP has, nor do I really understand what is OT? B/c it seems like most of the stuff we post about is OT? I love this forum... it is my favorite one out of all the ones I've ever posted on and the sense of community is so wonderful. Why are a couple ppl picking it apart???

[BowNessMonster]

ya wanna know what's funny?

I was astounded to realize I was closing in on 1000 posts. I still felt like such a newbie, that diapering was the only place I actually went to. I think intero could be moved after a grace period, and when they fall back a few pages.

I see Owl's poni (lol, 'point', I really can't see your poni from here) when she says " I want to know people who have similar interests." THAT is why I hang out in diapering EVEN THO DD IS POTTY TRAINED! LOL!

I am always happy when someone I know from diapering posts with me "outside the sphere". I almost cried one day when someone referred to me as "our own". . When I came here I was full of false confidence in my CD knowledge. I was humbled, and awed by the amount of knowledge here. The ladies here have really, and I don't say this lightly or as spam, have MADE my business. Really.

I tried to help keep my community on ezboard togteher forever. There were about ten of us regulars who could be counted on to post a reply (once ever five days LOL). It had such potential, and loads of great info, but it...just...died! I like it here, i don't feel enourmous pressure to post, but feel welcome to post if I do. I can even post asinine things and not have to worry about 'splaining m'self.

[BowNessMonster]

and what even funnier is I thought heather was an arrogant biznatch who had it out for me :LOL:LOL:LOL Now I know it's just her no-nonsense way of puttin' it to ya

[pb_and_j]

Originally posted by barefoot in the sand

I am always happy when someone I know from diapering posts with me "outside the sphere". I almost cried one day when someone referred to me as "our own". .

Kendell~ I saw you posting on "digging in the earth" and was so happy to see a familiar face too! Though I never seem to have much to add... just questions, lol.

[Nikki Christina]

Originally posted by Midnightowl
Nikki,

My husband and I were talking earlier today about how message boards are really a lot like high school. There's always going to be a group of "popular kids" who get laughs, kudos and responses no matter what they say. Then there's also those of us who are in the background, who make the same jokes and don't even get noticed! It's been that way on every message board I've ever been on.

But it really has seemed more welcoming here at MDC overall to me. I'm sorry that hasn't been your experience.

I'd love to get to know you better. I've clicked on your Web site in your sig several times to see pics of your beautiful children.

I do realise that message boards can be like cliques.. Ive just never felt like I was on the out of it..lol
but dang it sucks..

I will be trying to branch out outside of diapering..because iw ant to know more about the girls here outside of MDC besids hwats on their kids butts

but If I get ignored Im coming after you all with a big stick

[BowNessMonster]

Pulls her double edged snappi saber out and begins a duel with Nikki.

Use the cloth, Luke

edit to add: yes, I too have very little "teaching" to do in diggin in the earth LOL. I have pics of my little garden I am getting back tomorrow! *gasp* THAT's OFF toooooPIC!!! :LOL

I'll post em this wknd if anyone wants to go there and see them LOL

[Lifesabeach]

you mean there are other forums? LOL, I rarely even visit the other forums...I'm really bad about that at all the boards I visit...I pick one forum and that's mostly the only place I visit.

and if I'm gone for a few days the last thing I expect is to actually be able to read all the posts since my last visit,lol...then I again, I'm rarely gone for more that a day or so...:

[canadiyank]

Hey Nikki Christina! I just wanted to let you know that when you first joined, I kept seeing this new name around and one time clicked on your sig links. I looked at every single pic, LOL, and even read the info about your son's condition, which was so interesting to me since I'd never heard about it before. I signed your guest book (and said I'd linked from here), but it didn't show up right away, so I don't know if it went in.

That, to me, is the essence of this entire community. I have a pic in my mind of NC (and Darshani, and several others whose sites I've visited but maybe I've never said anything to them) and an idea of her daily life. Why? B/c she was around regularly and I wanted to get to "know" her better. I really don't feel that's being exclusive - it's just reality, I saw her more often and she had a link, LOL. I post in other places (less regularly) and there are definitely close knit people in the other forums, too. No prob! I post in Spirituality until the thread gets pulled or I need to cool down, LOL, I post in TAO when I feel like being "chatty," I post in toddlers when I need info, and I used to post in PPD - need to do that more. But yeah, there's definitely a hierarchy in every forum - and sometimes you DO feel ignored. So, while each forum doesn't feel that way itself, it does when you're a "visitor," KWIM?

I actually make a special effort to check out the posts that have few replies. I'm glad when people take the time at other forums to make me feel welcome. But, often I don't - I posted a thread a couple weeks ago in a "new" to me forum and it has ONE reply. So, what I'm saying is, we may feel like we're being welcoming, but apparently we're not (and I say "we" as the entire board, not just this forum). We need to make an EXTRA effort when new people post!

I love this forum - it keeps me busy just looking through the interesting threads here. But we DO have other interests - this has inspired me to check out PPD some more.

And irishmommy - I remember you welcomed me when I first joined the boards - thank you, not a whole lot of people did, and I was confused until I saw not everybody sees every post. LOL! Hardly! But that did make me feel welcome - you're doing important work, b/c I often see you post there.

This is becoming really long, but I just wanted to add that I have 3 IRL penpals from a thread posted in TAO a year ago. These ladies RARELY post in the same forums I do but it's such a delight to see them around and PM them when they're online. I've met another mama IRL from the Meet My Tribe section. It's fun to branch out, but it's fun, too, to have a "home" forum. Let's just make an effort to watch for the newbies, the threads with few replies, and keep things on topic, as well as checking out the threads our friends posted on.

Off to check out who got some fluffy mail , and see if there's a recent penpal thread in TAO...

[blazfglori]

Originally posted by pb_and_j
I guess I just don't really see the problem the OP has, nor do I really understand what is OT? B/c it seems like most of the stuff we post about is OT? I love this forum... it is my favorite one out of all the ones I've ever posted on and the sense of community is so wonderful. Why are a couple ppl picking it apart???

ITA with Julie!

On another note....
Even when posts are "moved" there is still the link to the post on the board that says "moved to such and such a place" that you click on, so it's still there and taking up space, so what's the point?
Am I missing something here?:

[HeatherSanders]

Originally posted by flminivanmama
I just looked through about 5 or 6 pages of posts and I only found about 5 OT posts 2 of which had been moved - 1 of those was started by a moderator ("what's your access") - and 2 of which were introductions - only one of the 5 was still on this board (the one about SandraDee's DH's job offer) and it was about 5 or 6 pages back.

Yes, I KNOW . . . I posted it thinking about how long it took to load up diaper pages at WAHMall and just didn't convey that in there. GUILTY as charged. See, LaLa keeps me in line and she's off a couple of days . Seriously though, I did move it over to TAO as that would have been the more appropriate forum.

originally posted by mamaduckIf you put your posts in the appropriate forums, then I will feel welcome to respond to them and to get to know you all. The feeling I get though, is that you are not too interested in my responses, or in getting to know me.

Thank you - this is a very good point and one that I've been asked about/PM'ed about on more than one occasion. A momma feels like they have something to 'offer' another momma here that might have asked an OT question, but because of the 'placing' within this forum, they do not feel they can respond. Good point - thank you for mentioning it.

Originally posted by mliaBut I need a clarification is talking about sniping and auctions and whose instock etc OT? I don't get that if it is. To me those are directly about diapering even though it doesn't appeal to everyone.

For clarification : Sniping, auctions, links to WAHMall auctions that you think are cute, hyena conversations, INSTOCK, out of stock, WHERE'S THE STOCK (as in where's the beef), Diaper Garden, wiggly diaper changes, wet beds, potty training - as in 'moving from regular diapers to training diapers or whatever', diapers on a line, what clothesline is best, comments about our diapers, advocacy for cloth, meeting cd moms IRL, etc. . . etc. . . if it involves cloth diapering our chil'ens in some way, shape or form (other than just trying to force in the word DIAPER so that it will stay in this forum ), it belongs in here!

[flminivanmama]

I wasn't accusing - I was just saying "I don't think 5 OT posts in 5 pages is a lot"
what's really funny is that in most other large BB communities they request that you use the subforums as a way to "find your tribe" (which we have certainly done here). I once started a thread in FYT for the hyenas but it fizzled. people like to chat here. Manyducks it doesn't mean we don't want your opinion or input - we certainly do! in fact the diapering community on MDC is one of the most welcoming I've ever found. It just means we've "found our tribe" - and wasn't that the point of MDC in the first place?
I find the suggestion of using the PM system to be a little strange - who would we PM? we found an entire community in diapering - not just one or two people.