Originally Posted by aprongirl
Well bah! Not happy to be here but happy to have found a forum of women to discuss this with/relate.
I'm 26 and had my beautiful baby boy 3 1/2 months ago. I carried my son very low the entire pregnancy and had a lot
of pelvic pain while pregnant. I had no idea POP even existed! Knowing what I know now I would have put myself on bedrest! But of course that's how we all feel now wanting to be able to do things differently! I first noticed my POP when I was about 37 weeks pregnant. I was so horrified/scared but my midwife assured me that it would probably go away after birth. My boy was engaged and as low as he could be for weeks/months prior to his birth. I had a wonderful waterbirth. A fast labor, a 1st degree tear and an 8lb 2 oz baby with a just over 14 inch head, bigger than what any of us expected for me (I have a pretty thin frame). Unfortunately the prolapse has remained. I have seen a urogyn and I have a "small" probably 1 degree rectocele and a 2 cystocele. My uterus is very high up.
as a side note: I believe if I had a c-section I would still have a POP as it presented itself in pregnancy. I think the biggest factors for me were the way I carried my baby the entire pregnancy and I suspect genetics.
I am being as proactive about this as possible. I have started seeing a physical therapist specializing in women's pelvic floor health, and I've been doing the hab-it dvd for two months now. I think about my posture all the time, and I wait until it is always the most advantagious time to have a BM with no straining
Going to see the urogyn was incredibly depressing as every other person in the waiting room was about 50 years older than me. I told my PT this and that I felt like I was the youngest person experiencing this and felt like a freak and she laughed and said, "no way. you are definitely not alone in this"
It is just so frustrating! I want to have more children! and I want to be as whole as possible too. This issue is so hard. So many parts of who we are are affected by this: physical, emotional, sexual. I have days where I feel positive and days where I feel just horrible.
I want to see results and I get so discouraged that things seem about the same.
what seems to be typical as far as healing goes? (I know this is something that must be managed and does not just go away) I'm bf and will be for some time to come.
Also, this mayan uterine massage... has anyone experienced/heard of it working for bladder- not uterine prolapse?
Chiropractor...worth it? I'm scared it could make things worse If I got adjusted incorrectly or something.
What kind of cardio exercising are you guys doing that is POP safe?
kegals? my PT has evaluated me doing them and I know I'm doing them right now. As for now I'm of the belief they will help but I have heard all kinds of things about them. what has worked
for you guys?
Do any of you also experience openess in your vaginas as well? When I am laying down with a mirror I can see in mine. I know this must be related to my POP but I'm curious as to others experiences.
Thank you. It has been helpful to find this thread. I want to read through all of it. I appreciate everyone's honesty and the encouraging vibe shared in the forum.
firstly, sorry to all who have posted with new prolapse problems, i feel for you all but you are in the right place for support
aprongirl, i too carried very low and in the last few weeks i could actually feel his head pressing against the vaginal wall about 2 inches inside!
I was scheduled for a c/s because i had one with my first as she was breech, but he came earlier and quickly so they hd no time for the c/s, and at first i was blaming the forceps delivery i had for my prolapses, but as time went on (almost 11 months pp now) i realise that the weakness of my pelvic floor was actually caused by pregnancy (although forceps would have probaby not helped the situation). It wasnt until 2 weeks pp that i was a little constipated and pushed a little too hard and - down came my organs!
I have a mild cstocele, rectocele and uterine prolapse, i am 27.
I had 9 months of physio, which i can now say did not really help me too much - although she did teach me how to properly contract my pelvic floor muscles so i am now more aware of them.
Looking back, all the kegels she got me to do for 9 months did not make much of a difference in my pelvic floor strength or my prolapses (although they did not get worse)
I only do kegels a couple of times a day when i remember now, and i feel that my pelvic strength is about the same as it was prior to pregnancy.
I probably do about 5-10 really good contractions a day and about 10 pulses at various times through out the day.
To be honest, for me, the real healing factor was time
! Over time i have gradually began feeling more normal down there, i began acupuncture at 9 months pp and i highly
recommend this, my pelvic pain has now gone.
If your pelvic allignment is out, your organs cannot possibly be well supported and if you correct yor pelvic allignment you have a better chance of recovering those muscles and helping to life those organs back up (acupunctue has techniques to fix your pelvic allignment and pull your pelvic organs back up). I have noticed a huge increase in pelvic floor sensation and strength since beginning acupuncture and i have noticed an improvement in my prolapses over time, i have also got sensation back in my previous c/s scar (which has been numb for 6 years).
As for the looseness of the vaginal opening, it is related to the prolapses, i have it too, and really you are just going to have to live with it, my partner has not mentioned it being a problem and i dont find it a problem lol it has not tightened up with the kegels at all, i think thats just how its going to stay.
As for exercise, I am very active and have been going to the gym 5 days a week since 8 months pp (i was going regularly before then as well) and i have no restrictions at all in what I can do, I do yoga, pilates, weights, cardio, jumping, boxing etc. You just need to remember to squeese your belly button in and contract your pelvic floor when your exercising (which we all should do anyway).
You mentioned healing time, well it would be different for everyone i suppose - it took about 2-3 months after i discovered the prolapses for that dragging, heavy, achy, tampon-being-stuck-feeling to go away. But i also had a episiotomy which took a long time to heal.
Give yourself time, your prolapses are mild, they are NORMAL, i'd like to find a woman who's given birth vaginally who's vagina has gone back to exactly how it was prior to giving birth! I can tell you that it would be difficult to find. My gynae (who i saw once) said my vagina was normal for someone who's had a baby! Some women just arent really aware of their body and wouldnt notice something 'out of place'. You will feel better in time, take it easy, eat lots of fruit and fibre, and drink lots of water.
I am still curious how a 3rd pregnancy would effect my prolapses, I am going to wait a couple of years, my body is still healing!