Pelvic Organ Prolapse, Support Thread - Page 72

[dgonz880]

Originally Posted by mommyw 

it was right in the opening of the vagina. i havent been feeling up in there much the past few days bc im worried about causing infection bc im still spotting on and off, but i have been having a LOT of pain around the urethra and it is like the top part of the opening is normal but the bottom half of it(the bottom half of the urethral opening) is really swollen and red, so i am thinking, back to what i originally thought, that i have a urethral prolapse or urethritis(which is common for ppl w/ herpes and my dh and i both have hsv2) sooo i am not sure. i just know that it hurts really bad, that it is swollen and weird looking, to both me and my mom, though my dh says it looks like it always has but no, it doesnt, and that when i pee i have to pee and then wait and then pee a tiny more to empty all the way, and im peeing a lot but i have always done that, but no burning or pain from actually peeing.
 

Hmmmm, not sure what to think about that.  The post on here from sjpPOP about going to medhelp.org to post questions is a great resource.  I went and asked a question and a few hours later a urogyn answered my question.  So maybe head there and ask about this.  Here is a link, just have to sign up first before asking a question, but this is a great expert forum!  http://www.medhelp.org/forums/Pelvic-Organ-Prolapse-POP/show/1085?personal_page_id=2297232   Thank you sjpPOP for this resource!

~Diana
 

[moss]

hi!

Im sure the answer is probably hidden in this massive thread but what advice would you give and what resources would you recommend to a pregnant mama who would like to prevent a prolapse?

Also arethere any youtubes for the womens posture or any recommended excercises?

Thanks in advance!

[LionessMom]

i really like this~

http://journeytocrunchville.wordpress.com/2010/08/17/why-you-should-stop-doing-kegels/ 

[dgonz880]

Originally Posted by moss 

hi!

Im sure the answer is probably hidden in this massive thread but what advice would you give and what resources would you recommend to a pregnant mama who would like to prevent a prolapse?

Also arethere any youtubes for the womens posture or any recommended excercises?

Thanks in advance!

Lots of info here too~ http://www.wholewoman.com/ 

[AlaaJ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by moss 

Also arethere any youtubes for the womens posture or any recommended excercises?

Thanks in advance!

here's the posture: http://www.youtube.com/user/WholeWomanInc#p/u/5/RvGROzIYN6w

[Joolz]

hi mamas,

  hope it's ok that I join in! My backstory....I have 5 kids, 4 of them born within 5 yrs of each other long ago (they are teens). Never had any issues. I also have a 15 month old and just yesterday, when I went to the bathroom and wiped, I felt something at the opening. It was spongy and I thought, "wait, even though I just finished my period, I don't *think* i used a sea sponge this time" (thinking I left something inside). Nope, just me, spongy tissue. It is right at the opening and i can push it back up.  It doesn't go out past my outer labia at all. I don't have any discomfort sitting or anything and I think it was when I pushed for a BM.

DH and I dtd earlier in the week and neither of us noticed anything. Last night, to see if we noticed a difference, we dtd and both of us noticed. DH said it felt like a finger or something was there pressing against him. And to me, it felt slightly uncomfortable, like he was rubbing something raw. It is not at the top, but the bottom, so I don't know if it is uterine or rectocele (sp?).

Looking back, I realized it must have been coming for a while. PP, this is the only baby where I have some incontinence with twisting a certain way, laughing, etc. With my other kids, I had (and it never resolved) the sneezing/coughing incontinence only if I didn't tense before. This time, I can't feel it coming and even if I tense up, there have been times when I have all out wet myself instead of just a squirt. And I did that thru the pregnancy and PP with him. I have also had trouble with BMs sometimes. Like it never feels like I "finish" even though I am not constipated. I just chalked it up to the fact that it's hard to take a poo with a baby/toddler on your lap nursing/playing in the trash/screaming issues, lol.

His birth- he was small, 6lb 7oz and even though I got to 10, I didn't have the urge to push really too much. And when I pushed, it felt very ineffective. It was, unfortunately, a hospital birth (had to change plans at 36wks and he was born at 38) and though I was upright, there was a lot of yelling to push. I had had a huge bleed when I went into labor and so there were some concerns and it felt like my body gave up. Even though I was eating and drinking (in between pushing, even!), my uterus was exhausted. The doc practically went up there and pulled him out bc I was at the point at one time where I was pretending to push bc I just couldn't.

Not sure if that all played a part bc I did notice more incontinence and trouble with BMs even during the pregnancy, but never felt any prolapse until the yesterday. I had just chalked everything up to being older (I'm 40) and being my 5th baby.

I am working on getting the DVD rec'd on here for exercises (and ftr, I have never been able to do an effective kegel in my life. my body just doesn't seem to get it) and reading thewholewoman website.

I hope the exercises (and losing weight!) works bc I am not sure about a pessiary. I am really sensitive there (only can use sea sponges or all cotton re-usable tampons) so that worries me. Also, if it stays as such and gets better with exercise, I won't go to a doc.

Thanks for listening if you got this far, it helped to kind of talk it through! :)

[Calliope84]

Have you guys seen "A Walk to Beautiful"? It is on Netflix.

It really goes to show that "Natural Childbirth" does not mean everything will go just fine. Women all over the world have issues from giving birth... whether naturally or in a hospital on their backs. The women in this movie could have benefited from doctors helping them in birth.

POP is frustrating me lately and I have to realize it could be worse and also, that I'm not alone and this is just a part of being a woman and having children. I'm angry no one talks about it, though.

[StellaNuova]

Hi Ladies, 

I'd like to join...I think I have a bladder prolapse...ugh. I am calling my docs/mw tomorrow. I am kind of bummed and was glad to find this thread. I guess we are not alone...no one does talk about this though...

Stella

[mimi1585]

Hi.  I am new here.  Just found this support group searching the internet!  I am 26 years and have a 2 y/o daughter and was just diagnosed with a cystocele.  I could feel something pushing down into the top of my vagina.  I went to my chiropractor today and told him what my OBGYN said and he said he could do a grab and lift type of thing and get it bac up there for me.  Has anyone ever heard of this?  My OB never said how bad it is.  i can feel it most of the time pushing down a bit and is annoying and have some pelvic pain...I just started noticing this.  My daughter only weighed 6lbs 10oz.  and I tend to pick her up constantly , all 32lbs of her and have been moving furniture for my parents lately so maybe that didn't help.  But back to the chiropractor thing.  My mom and cousin are like maybe u should wait...what if he ruptures something...anyone know about this?  what do u think?  please help!  Thanks!

[suezTB]

Hi ladies,

Obviously, very new here, found this particular thread while searching for information on uterine prolapse. Im very new to the subject, and just discovered my condition a few days ago. I have yet to see the doctor yet (my appointment is Monday afternoon), so I still have a lot of unanswered questions, even more fears and worries, and many concerns.

I am 24 years old, I have two children, a three year old boy and a five week old girl. My first weighed nine pounds five ounces, my second weighed nine pounds three ounces. I delivered both vaginally, but my second came hard and fast, delivered in eight minutes wwith five pushes. She delivered fullyy intact in the amniotic sac, my water never broke until the doctor knicked it as she was crowning. I did not feel like I was healing the same this time, so I decided to investigate, and found that when standing, my vaginal opening was completely blocked by flesh, and my cervix is only slightly inside.

I have so many questions about treatment options and what this means for the future. The thought of leaving it like this sounds awful, but the idea of surgery scares me to death, I have never had anyy type of surgery before. I feel so ashamed and embarassed, and I cry every time I think about it.

[suezTB]

Hi ladies,

Obviously, very new here, found this particular thread while searching for information on uterine prolapse. Im very new to the subject, and just discovered my condition a few days ago. I have yet to see the doctor yet (my appointment is Monday afternoon), so I still have a lot of unanswered questions, even more fears and worries, and many concerns.

I am 24 years old, I have two children, a three year old boy and a five week old girl. My first weighed nine pounds five ounces, my second weighed nine pounds three ounces. I delivered both vaginally, but my second came hard and fast, delivered in eight minutes wwith five pushes. She delivered fullyy intact in the amniotic sac, my water never broke until the doctor knicked it as she was crowning. I did not feel like I was healing the same this time, so I decided to investigate, and found that when standing, my vaginal opening was completely blocked by flesh, and my cervix is only slightly inside.

I have so many questions about treatment options and what this means for the future. The thought of leaving it like this sounds awful, but the idea of surgery scares me to death, I have never had anyy type of surgery before. I feel so ashamed and embarassed, and I cry every time I think about it.

[scottishmommy]

Hey Mimi and Suez! Both of you need to know that POP is extremely common. It strikes over 90% of women who have given birth( there's a link to a study somewhere in this massive thread that shows this). So don't feel like a freak! There are a lot of treatment options available. A lot of moms here love the "hab-it" DVDs. Also check out www.katysay.com. I saw a physical therapist and loved it. I also find that chiropractic helps a lot.
Mimi- the heavy lifting probably aggravated your already existing POP. I'd do some inverted yoga poses to encourage it to go back up. I've never heard of the procedure your doctor and chiro are talking about, I'm curious though!
Suez- your POP will likely get a lot better. You are still in the very early stages of healing from childbirth. After everything tightens back up, you may not notice a thing.. Hang in there!

[evefrances]

Hi, well I think I've read this entire thread 15 times already and have to say that it has been sooo consoling and educational as well. I have a cystocele and rectocele approx. stage 2 since having an episode a few weeks ago where I had a lot of constipation and strained myself to POP.  Anyway, I'm being very pro-active now and have lined up a chiropractor, a Myan Message and am now taking estriol oil vaginally plus doing Kegels and taking Magnesium supplements 3 times a day which has basically "finally" solved my straining problem totally. I have always eaten correctly but this is what finally did the trick!! Yea. but had I known this before the big POP then I would be in far better shape. I've been living with a stage1-2 cysteole for many many years and it never even bothered me at all because it wasn't near my vaginal opening so I didn't notice it.

The reason I'm posting here is mainly to share. I found a link which has the very best information I've found yet and it is VERY positive for all of us. Please check this out. It is a life saver (really)

http://www.hersfoundation.com/docs/Prolapse.html

GOOD LUCK TO ALL YOU MOMS AND POP QUEENS!!!

[lil liah]

hi diane sorry it took me so long to reply i dont come on here very often. my daughter is now 19 months. nothing much has changed although i am still breastfeeding. when i first found out i was sent to three different doctors including a specialist/surgeon and they all told me pretty much the same thing. a friend of mine who practices herbal and natural healing says i can heal myself, which i partially believe, its just seems so far off and im not sure... just trying to accept the new me and not feel ashamed sexually. honestly the worst part of it all is being loose and quiefing all the time, moving in my sleep, any stretching, etc. probably more info than you wanted but i can manage all the other symptoms and even a c section later and surgury. i just cant seem to get over being embarrassed by the two forementioned things. i cant imagine being with someone casually (sex) or how it would go meeting someone new and being intimate with them. its been almost a year since ive been with anyone sexually and i feel like my youth is slipping away

[dzintars]

Hi ladies.  I was just diagnosed with mild POP.  I am 41 and have 4 kids (ages 2, 4, 6 and 8).  I am currently pretty fit and enjoy working out.  I do mostly pilates and a weight circuit with a lot of ab work.  My doctor just informed me I need to change what I am doing if I want to slow the progression of this thing down.  No more abs, no more pilates, no high impact anything.  I saw much further back in this thread that some ladies were continuing to do pilates to with the hopes of strengthening their pelvic floor muscles -- looking back, did that work?  Has anyone had POP for a while and continued to exercise? What seems to work for you in terms of staying fit but not aggravating the POP?  I definitely want to keep working out, but don't know what I can and can't do! And bathing suit season is right around the corner!!! AGHHH!

Thanks!

[LionessMom]

i did lots of pilates ab work yoga core exercises. esp squats and lunges. completely erased my need to wear my supportive pessary.

[Shanti9]

I too have mixed feelings about Whole Woman. Christine Kent thinks she's the world's expert on the subject, and has a "one size fits all" approach to prolapse.  I appreciate that she's trying to prevent women from undergoing unnecessary surgery, which is great. On the other hand, she doesn't know very much about yoga, but has dissed people on her site who seem to have way more experience with yoga than she does, just because they aren't doing ONLY her program! Her exercise regime is pretty lame for anyone in good shape.  She's also really angry and defensive when anyone has success with anything other than her program, and she attacks people.  So go there and watch, but if you post stuff that has worked for you, but differs from her plan, be prepared to be put down by her.  I take what she says with a grain of salt.  Some of it makes sense, but she is not the be all and end all on the subject, although she believes she is.

[tikifreak]

Can anyone tell me more about how chiropractic treats this? Like what is the actual visit like? 
And how is it different from seeing a pelvic floor therapist? 

AND which do you recommend? Or both?

Sorry, this is new territory to me and you all seem so well-informed.

[3daughters]

Does this sound like a partial uterine prolapse?

I have a copper iud and I've been checking my strings regularly so I know how my cervix usually feels.

About 2 weeks ago I noticed that my cervix feels low, enlarged, hard, fingertip dilated and has some bumps around the rim.  It hasn't changed or moved in this time period.

I'm 37, have had four vaginal births (two with episiotomy and two with slight tears) and my "baby" just turned 4.

[Carol Zhu]

There's been a lot recent controversy/lawsuits over transvaginal mesh, which was used to treat pop. Apparently, they were approved without clinical testing before they went on the market..