Pelvic Organ Prolapse, Support Thread - Page 9

[Birth&Bunnies]

I'm really not sure. I have just searched some websites to get the posted info . I don't have it all memorized, although I was raised using them and use them/ recommend them now. I would say ask an homeopath or avoid for that hour, see how you feel. If the symptoms become more noticeable you will probably have to wait a few hours for the caffeine to get out of your system and then take another dose.

Here are a few more tips:
Those preparing to take homeopathic remedies should also avoid taking antidotes, substances which homeopathic doctors believe cancel the effects of their remedies. These substances include alcohol, coffee, prescription drugs, peppermint (in toothpaste and mouthwash), camphor (in salves and lotions), and very spicy foods. Homeopathic medicine should also be handled with care, and should not be touched with the hands or fingers, which can contaminate it.

[debsdancer]

Yes, thanks for the info. So... do you think I should get a lower dose than the 200c? I guess I remembered someone saying they were trying to get that but couldn't find it...

Thanks again. Will try it out.

[Birth&Bunnies]

Use high doses (60X and up_ for immediate effect on acute problems, constitutional or suppressed conditions.

The 200C may be okay for this since it might be considered constitutional or suppressed.

Check this link to see the profile, that is the whole picture for this remedy. The abbreviated in captions are other remedies that carry that same specific symptom. Ideally you should fit multiple symptoms of that remedy, not just your main one.

http://www.hpathy.com/materiamedica/...llen-sepia.asp

Hopefully you can navigate this site, but if you are unfamiliar with the terms it may be hard.

[fruitful womb]

Originally Posted by Kiddoson

Interesting..... when my bladder is REALLY full everything feels normal. Once I empty it sags down again. Anyone else? And any idea why?

When my bladder is full it feels like I've got a water balloon in my vagina.

What your describing sounds to me like a pessary feeling. Your bladder is below your uterus. When its full it lifts your uterus up. Make sense?

My bladder is a grade 4. This might explain my water balloon feeling. Sounds like your bladder is in much better condition.

[fruitful womb]

Where do I find the liquid form? I've only been able to find the pellets.

Is that right, 15 drops under the tongue?

[Birth&Bunnies]

You should be able to have your natural food store order it for you. You may wait a little longer or not, and should save yourself shipping. I just noticed the "drops" you should be able to use the pellets, just the dosing is usually 4 for an adult. Then I would try using the dosing frequency the same, just the drop/pellets would differ. Usually the people working in the herb section know enough to help, you might try asking them about the drops vs. pellets.

[threadbey]

hi! i've been here before, but i changed my username.

i just got the whole woman dvd and did the exercise routine this afternoon. oy! several months of mostly baby and very little conscious stretching or exercise on my part have left me rather inflexible! i think her routine is good, though.

here's what's concerning me lately: wearing my baby! i love having him in the ergo. but my biggest postural problem (i guess it's all connected, though) is my tailbone points down (years of yoga telling me that's what it should do, and also a freak injury to my tailbone when i was a teenager, which caused me to sit completely slouched for several years). consciously working on this is good, but my low back aches a little. the ergo makes it harder for me to pay attention to what's going on with my posture.

i also find it hard (impossible, really) to keep a decent posture while nursing (i have a boppy - i wish i had something better, any recommendations?).

anyway, i wish there were a whole woman dvd aimed at the young immediate postpartum woman! i feel like so much of baby care is really really hard to do ergonomically. :

[Goatriffic]

I found this thread on the whole woman site and I know there are more about baby wearing in posture. There are other threads too if you do a search. So much great advice there.

I didn't use a sling for my baby girl until a few weeks ago fearing that it would make things worse. I finally realized that with 4 kids I need to have my hands free so I gave it a try and haven't felt any negative change from that. In fact things had been feeling much better. Although the last couple of days things have felt saggy but I think that has to do with me starting to exercise again, and not the baby wearing.

[Birth&Bunnies]

I can't find it!!! I had the info on this cool pillow and it was adjustable, without fire retardant and absolutely no slouching. Google search didn't help...as soon as I figure out the name I will post.

[Tanibani]

Hi all... I have not had time to read every single post. I have this same problem and have tried to research it on my own.

I was terrified of having a 2nd baby and how it would affect my insides. I know I'm still not as strong as I could be and it does worry me a little (it will get worse...) but that's not the point of my post right now.

WHAT CAUSED IT TO BEGIN WITH?

I have a 3 year old daughter. She LOVES to sit in the W position. She has from her babyhood. Knees together, feet on the sides. I have photos of myself at age 5 sitting like this. (I do not want this issue affecting my daughter.)

Could it be that this W-sitting position PUSHES all the organs downwards and makes on more susceptible to this in later years?

Vs. cross-legged sitting, where organs are not pushed down?

What do you all think?

http://www.pediatricservices.com/parents/pc-22.htm

[wombatclay]

Hmmm... I know w-sitting is bad for leg/hip development but does it affect internal organ/muscle strength? I don't know.

My guess is that prolapse happens for dozens, maybe hundreds of reasons... all sorts of little things interacting. So one woman might find something is very problematic while another might not, even though they both have the same type/level of prolapse. Posture, diet, general health, types of exercise and activities, birth and pregnancy, surgeries, habitual activities, injuries, the whole fabric of life...

W sitting isn't good for a bunch of reasons, so it's certainly good to discourage it, but it's probably not going to be a "main reason"?

[aslmere]

OMG!
I just found out that I have a cystocole yesterday, maybe grade 2.. and I am 21 weeks pregnant!
It feels EXACTLY like someone else at the beginning of this thread described. Like a tampon that I didn't quite insert correctly.
I went looking for my cervix the other night and instead found a huge bump at my vaginal opnening that was actually my bladder

I have so much to say... but I need info to avoid a cesarean.

I have to take ds to school right now, but will definately be back to read this entire thread tonight!

thanks
Nina

[threadbey]

Originally Posted by Goatriffic

I found this thread on the whole woman site and I know there are more about baby wearing in posture. There are other threads too if you do a search. So much great advice there.

thanks. i still have trouble navigating that site. the threads are set up strangely.

Originally Posted by Birth&Bunnies

I can't find it!!! I had the info on this cool pillow and it was adjustable, without fire retardant and absolutely no slouching. Google search didn't help...as soon as I figure out the name I will post.

i did some searching myself. found the lechco natural boost pillow? it looked good, but customer reviews were not positive. has anyone tried the my brest friend? mmm, i guess i should move this part of the discussion to breastfeeding. sorry for the slight off-topic. i've started sitting on my birth ball to nurse ds with the boppy. that encourages better posture in me, and my knees come up a bit and push the boppy up, so less slouching.

Originally Posted by Tanibani

I have a 3 year old daughter. She LOVES to sit in the W position. She has from her babyhood. Knees together, feet on the sides. I have photos of myself at age 5 sitting like this. (I do not want this issue affecting my daughter.)

Could it be that this W-sitting position PUSHES all the organs downwards and makes on more susceptible to this in later years?

i don't know. what is the position of the lumbar spine in the w-sitting position? the whole woman site recommends sitting on your heels (so, w except that the feet are under the seat instead of to the sides) and i find that does start to improve what i now realize is my utter lack of lumbar curve. i would think the w position would be similar, but maybe the extra torque on the knees and hips (which i guess is what's bad for you) changes things.

Originally Posted by aslmere

OMG!
I just found out that I have a cystocole yesterday, maybe grade 2.. and I am 21 weeks pregnant!
...
I have so much to say... but I need info to avoid a cesarean.

so sorry! i'm sure the whole woman site has info on avoiding a cesarean. for what it's worth, i know someone who had an episiotomy and 4th degree tear with her first child, then "chose" a c-section for the second after her doctor scared her about life-long bowel incontinence, then chose a vbac for the third because she hated the c-section so much. i know it's often assumed that c-sections prevent prolapse, but research says that's not true (though i think there is a lower rate of prolapse with c-sections than vaginal delivery, sadly ).

here's one discussion i found on whole woman about pregnancy with cystocele. (yes, i'm starting to figure out the site ) i'm sure there are others if you search. you could also post yourself.

[Birth&Bunnies]

http://www.kidkozy.com/

Found it found it! I like this one a lot.

[mamamoo]

subbing...mild undiagnosed prolapse of some sort with my last three pregnancies. nak right now though. so glad this thread is here!!!

[PreggieUBA2C]

I just found you mamas!

I can relate to a lot of what I've read here. I wasn't aware of any problems with my 1st two births (both c/s), but after a 9hr labour with ds3, 40 minutes of baby ejection reflex while I waited it out and no pain, I found myself with at least a prolapsed uterus and maybe bladder too.

I had to share that the strangest thing ever happened to me and I have wondered about it ever since. Ds3 was 10lbs 3oz, born December 2005, then in October 2006, when my cervix was still just barely inside, we moved way up north, a 33 hour drive. The second week we were here, my cervix had moved waaaay up to almost its original position! I hadn't done anything different, new, and if anything, I was exerting too much pressure on my pelvic floor with all the moving arrangements, and had made things worse just before we left.

I'm pg now, and I don't know what to expect pp, but I am hopeful that I'll heal again. At the beginning of 2nd trimester, I did feel a little saggy, but nothing really uncomfortable.

My theory is that the drastic increase in oxygen and reduction in air and water pollution were major contributing factors to my sudden and unexpected recovery. I don't know for sure, but after ten months of things either staying the same or becoming worse, this development was nothing short of miraculous or a direct result of the intense environmental change. We live in a town of 200 in the middle of the woods, isolated and remote. This area is considered 'virgin' since its never been logged or sprayed with anything, although there are some small mines up here, but that's it and compared with the city... umm, well there's no comparison.

Anyway- I wonder if anyone has tried anything related to oxygen therapy, toxin removal, location changes, anything like that? I haven't heard of this happening to anyone else before, but admittedly, I don't bring up POP very often .

Thank you for being here!!!

[~*max*~]

Hi everyone. I am so glad to see so many people have found this thread. POP seems to be fairly common, but something no one talks about. I certainly had no idea until that fateful GYN appointment.

I had a really bad day yesterday. My prolapses (uterine & bladder) felt worse than ever. I had been on my feet a lot, doing a lot of house work, but really nothing too unusual. It felt like when I was in labor and the baby's head was pushing on my vagina & rectum. I had to go lie down w/an ice pack & take some ibuprofin. Well, it turns out I was rather constipated and that was what was causing the pressure. Very strange. I guess I will have to keep an eye on that and try to eat better.

Sometimes, like yesterday, I get really frustrated dealing w/this an feel like surgery may be the way to go. But I really do not want to have surgery, for many reasons, but I am particularly terrified of being put under. I feel like I still have a few things to try that may help, so I need to focus on that & stay positive. But, as you all know I'm sure, that can be hard to do.

[wombatclay]

hugs max

I take metamucil (or the store brand) every night before bed and if I don't "go" in a 24 hr period I take a dose of milk of magnesia before bed too. I started this at my OB's request after the tear repair since constipation would be pretty bad during the healing phase, but I've kept it up since staying really really regular seems to help with my symptoms...I've noticed that even a little extra "bulk" in the area leads to a significant "ugh" feeling till it resolves.

I do find it funny that metamucil is actively marketing to 20-30 something women (their tv ads equate metamucil/fiber supplements with things like exercise, yoga, and skin care products "do something beautiful for your insides"). Who knew laxatives were sexy?

[fruitful womb]

Originally Posted by PreggieUBA2C

I had to share that the strangest thing ever happened to me and I have wondered about it ever since. Ds3 was 10lbs 3oz, born December 2005, then in October 2006, when my cervix was still just barely inside, we moved way up north, a 33 hour drive. The second week we were here, my cervix had moved waaaay up to almost its original position! I hadn't done anything different, new, and if anything, I was exerting too much pressure on my pelvic floor with all the moving arrangements, and had made things worse just before we left.


My theory is that the drastic increase in oxygen and reduction in air and water pollution were major contributing factors to my sudden and unexpected recovery. I don't know for sure, but after ten months of things either staying the same or becoming worse, this development was nothing short of miraculous or a direct result of the intense environmental change. We live in a town of 200 in the middle of the woods, isolated and remote. This area is considered 'virgin' since its never been logged or sprayed with anything, although there are some small mines up here, but that's it and compared with the city... umm, well there's no comparison.

Anyway- I wonder if anyone has tried anything related to oxygen therapy, toxin removal, location changes, anything like that? I haven't heard of this happening to anyone else before, but admittedly, I don't bring up POP very often .

Thank you for being here!!!

That is a really interesting theory! I've been nagging to move up north, either CO where I grew up or Salem OR so in case I do end up pregnant again (not likely) I can try hiring pamamidwife from MDC to attend the Birth, otherwise it'll be a UC for us.
Congratulations on your upcoming arrival! Good Luck, can't wait to hear how it went!

Originally Posted by ~*max*~

Hi everyone. I am so glad to see so many people have found this thread. POP seems to be fairly common, but something no one talks about. I certainly had no idea until that fateful GYN appointment.

I had a really bad day yesterday. My prolapses (uterine & bladder) felt worse than ever. I had been on my feet a lot, doing a lot of house work, but really nothing too unusual. It felt like when I was in labor and the baby's head was pushing on my vagina & rectum. I had to go lie down w/an ice pack & take some ibuprofin. Well, it turns out I was rather constipated and that was what was causing the pressure. Very strange. I guess I will have to keep an eye on that and try to eat better.

Sometimes, like yesterday, I get really frustrated dealing w/this an feel like surgery may be the way to go. But I really do not want to have surgery, for many reasons, but I am particularly terrified of being put under. I feel like I still have a few things to try that may help, so I need to focus on that & stay positive. But, as you all know I'm sure, that can be hard to do.

I missed you ~max~. sorry your feeling bad. I do the liquid fiber found at Whole Foods or the Vitamin Shoppe. It really works for me. I haven't used it in awhile because I haven't needed it. I do make sure I'm faithful to go when the urge calls for it right then. If I ever ignore the call I'm sure to suffer and stay stopped up for a long time.

[~*max*~]

Thank you for the replies & support wombatclay & fruitful womb. So I guess this isn't my imagination! I've missed you all too. I had some recent stress w/my baby, and I was mainly focusing on that, but all is well now. It's good to be back.