Sodium Ascorbate - Page 12

[cloak]

Originally Posted by Peppermint

Can someone explain to me why the Sodium part of Sodium Ascorbate is not a problem? Is it beacuse it is "used" completely in the absorption of the Vit C?

This site is about animals but it helps to answer your question. It is more likely the chloride part of table salt, sodium chloride, that causes high blood pressure problems and not the sodium.
http://www.belfield.com/article12.htm

[Peppermint]

Originally Posted by Momtezuma Tuatara

Why do people think that salt is the cause of high blood pressure?

I *knew* when I wrote it that someone would throw me for a loop and say that . I am still very much in the learning curve between trusting modern medicine and learning how things really are. Thanks for the article cloak!

[AngelBee]

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[wonderwahine]

Originally Posted by Spencersmom

I would love to hear where you got these. Over the internet? From Hylands directly or from another source? How are they taken? Like Hylands teething tablets?

This would make taking Vit C so much easier for us. Thank you for the information.

I got mine in a big hylands kit that I brought, but you can buy them seperatly at whole foods in the baby dept.

[wonderwahine]

Originally Posted by Momtezuma Tuatara

I never use tablets.

Waste of time, and money.

Most kids will take sodium ascorbate.

I can't see how taking tablets makes it easier. Most kids I know much prefer having it as a drink.

Emergen-C is handy to have on hand, and kids love it.

But you might find that expensive too.

we use the tablets right now because ds is still under 1 and wont drink anything more than a mouthful of anything but breastmilk. So the tablets work for us. As he gets older, I'm definatly going to get powder and have emergen-c on hand in the car and other places.

[wonderwahine]

Originally Posted by Momtezuma Tuatara

Why do people think that salt is the cause of high blood pressure?

because the medical world drills it into everyone. Dh and my FIL are constantly being told to watch their sodium intake, I don't care either way. If salt was a killer, people in the 1800's would have died from all the salt they injested from salted meats.

[Annikate]

Originally Posted by romans_mum

we use the tablets right now because ds is still under 1 and wont drink anything more than a mouthful of anything but breastmilk. So the tablets work for us. As he gets older, I'm definatly going to get powder and have emergen-c on hand in the car and other places.

My dds will drink the powder mixed in w/anything - even water. It's my new constipation remedy. I found out dd1's *bowel tolerance.*

[wonderwahine]

Originally Posted by Annikate

My dds will drink the powder mixed in w/anything - even water. It's my new constipation remedy. I found out dd1's *bowel tolerance.*

thankfully ds has a low bowel tollerance, 3 tablets every 15 mins for an hour, and every 30mins after that, and usually within 2-3hrs hes at bowel tolerance. thankfully he doesnt get sick much

[Ex Libris]

I've been giving ds Natural Factors Vit C chews (500 mg ascorbic/SA combination w/ bioflavonoids). Is this a bad idea? I worry about tooth enamel problems and the sugar in them, but it's an easy way to get the C in him. Should I try for powder or tablets instead?

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Natural Factor Chews are okay. I have them on hand all the time, because our youngest is a mechanic, and he will pop a couple of them easier at work, than messing with powder...

If expense is your worry, then powder is much cheaper.

[granolamomma]

Originally Posted by Momtezuma Tuatara

Natural Factor Chews are okay. I have them on hand all the time, because our youngest is a mechanic, and he will pop a couple of them easier at work, than messing with powder...

If expense is your worry, then powder is much cheaper.

Thank God, because I scoured the area HFS looking for SA, and this was the only thing I could find (besides workers who kept trying to tell me I wanted Ester-C. No, I need Sodium Ascorbate. I think you're looking for the buffered C... NO I AM LOOKING FOR SODIUM ASCORBATE! : )

Thanks so much for your help, MT. Can I send you a plate of cookies or something?

[Spencersmom]

There must be a reason that SA is sold only in powder/crystal form. It seems that it would be easier for people to take if it were in capsule form (yes, caedmyn, I am looking into getting a capsule stuffing machine). Does anyone know the reason for this?

Momtezuma Tuatara - you said the chewables are okay but would there be a concern about tooth enamel if taken daily? Does it make a difference that it's buffered?

TIA.

[shalymar]

I have learned so much from this thread, and am so grateful for all of you who know so much more than I do about this.

I have been through pertussis with my oldest son (now 22 mo) when he was 2 mo old. I know that it is treatable/survivable. Now my 8 wk old nephew has all the signs and symptoms, and my 10 wk old daughter has been around him.

I'm going tonight to Wild Oats to get them both the Hylands Vit C tablets, which contains SA. I can't tell if it's 25 or 30 mg according to their website but according to the previously posted dosing info, that's like 63 tablets a day?? (at about 14#)

Also, where is the nutrition/immunology thread that MT started? Could someone link to it?

[wonderwahine]

Originally Posted by shalymar

Also, where is the nutrition/immunology thread that MT started? Could someone link to it?

its a sticky at the top of the vaccination forum.

[Ex Libris]

Originally Posted by Momtezuma Tuatara

Natural Factor Chews are okay. I have them on hand all the time, because our youngest is a mechanic, and he will pop a couple of them easier at work, than messing with powder...

If expense is your worry, then powder is much cheaper.

Whew! I just bought a new bottle and was afraid I'd need to toss it.

I'll second the offer to send you cookies, MT!

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Originally Posted by Spencersmom

Momtezuma Tuatara - you said the chewables are okay but would there be a concern about tooth enamel if taken daily? Does it make a difference that it's buffered?

TIA.

If you want good strongth tooth enamel, (and to stop worrying about it) there are various things to consider.

Good strong enamel can withstand most things (except perhaps a direct hard crunch on an osso bucco bone ) and good strong hard enamel is got through making sure that all the minerals related to strong teeth are provided, like boron, silica, and all the other natural bone minerals.

A book basic book for much of this is Your Vital Child by Mark and Angela Stengler.

Beyond that, I'm a great fan of toothpicks....

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Originally Posted by Spencersmom

There must be a reason that SA is sold only in powder/crystal form. It seems that it would be easier for people to take if it were in capsule form (yes, caedmyn, I am looking into getting a capsule stuffing machine). Does anyone know the reason for this?

I have a capsule stuffing machine. It's called "my fingers". Used to put dolomite in capsules, since dolomite is something that I gag on any other way.

1) I don't think there is an easier way of taking SA than in powder form, apart from maybe Liposomal, but that's expensive.

2) Vested interests come into play, and convenience. Many people, even in the natural remedy field, like expensive looking "hip" tablets in the shapes of bears, crocodiles, snakes or whatever, to make it more "fun" for kids to take and parents to give. I mean, if you are out in your SUV with Doc Martens, and the latest pram, who wants to be dealing with something as basic as powder?

It's much nicer to have a bottle of the latest, and greatest, don't you think?

Never mind that the "science" behind that latest and greatest might be junk.

3) As far as tablets go, Natural Factors have got a reasonable mix there. And lets face it. There are times when it is nicer to eat one's dark chocolate with almonds, than cutting a chunk off the 1 kg block.

Even I like things swept up at times.

But for everyday important grunge, powdered bioflavinoids and SA does me just fine.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Don't you think cookies would be powder by the time they got here?

Besides the only cookies I like are a recipe called "cowpat cookies".



Try find that one.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Originally Posted by romans_mum

we use the tablets right now because ds is still under 1 and wont drink anything more than a mouthful of anything but breastmilk.

I used to express breastmilk (while the baby looked on incensed and almost apoplectic) and then I'd mix a few pinches of SA into that, and hand it back in a sippy cup.

It went down just fine, with that smug self satisfied face almost saying "how dare you take what was mine in the first place"

Course some babies might view the result as "polluted"....

[wonderwahine]

Originally Posted by Momtezuma Tuatara

I used to express breastmilk (while the baby looked on incensed and almost apoplectic) and then I'd mix a few pinches of SA into that, and hand it back in a sippy cup.

It went down just fine, with that smug self satisfied face almost saying "how dare you take what was mine in the first place"

Course some babies might view the result as "polluted"....

thats how roman sees it.....he wont even take expressed milk in a cup, if its not from the tap, hes not taking it but he will willingly take his hylands tabs......so whatever works for us right now.