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post #41 of 431
10/12/05 at 7:08pm
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Originally Posted by LandonsMom
anyone take a multi? liquid or pill? what brand? why?

my dad always made us take vit C, so i ussualy just take vit C, am switching to sodium ascorbate, ordering now...but a multi too? yes or no?
My approach has been to take what I know I'm lowest in which is shown by my immune system, but the primary approach has to be via food.

That's why its important to have comprehensive books on nutrition. I have several, but the one which I lend out most often is an Australian one called "The Natural Health Cookbook" by Dorothy Hall and Carol Odell.

The other book which is an old one, which I find very useful to give people a better historical perspective is "Nutrition against Disease" by Dr Roger J Williams. He also wrote "Biochemical Individuality" which is a very interesting book and explains a lot that the others don't.., and "Physician's Handbook of Nutritional Science" which is interesting, but not compulsory reading

In terms of other texts, again, I prefer older ones. My favourites would be "Mental and Elemental nutrients" by Carl C Pfieffer MD, and also his "Total Nutrition", and "The Healing Nutrients within."

Yes, I'm old fashioned. I don't like the way that so many of the books now, are dumbed down, as if it would be impossible for the ordinary reader to understand well thought out logical reasoning.
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post #42 of 431
10/12/05 at 9:38pm
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Originally Posted by Momtezuma Tuatara
Yes, I'm old fashioned. I don't like the way that so many of the books now, are dumbed down, as if it would be impossible for the ordinary reader to understand well thought out logical reasoning.
Hey, now! Some of us (OK, me ) aren't quite the intellect you are, m'dear ... I, for one, kinda need a dumbed-down version of this stuff.

"Immunity for Dummies" :LOL
post #43 of 431
10/12/05 at 9:42pm
I recently purchased some vitamin c wafers for my DD. They are 500mg and it says that it is (as sodium ascorbate & ascorbic acid) 830% DV. Does this sound like it would be ok for DD? Or should I swithc to straight sodium ascorbate?

BTW, MT, thanks for the information about books. I've been wondering about books on nutrition as I'd like to start reading up on it.
post #44 of 431
10/12/05 at 10:09pm
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Originally Posted by skellbelle
Hey, now! Some of us (OK, me ) aren't quite the intellect you are, m'dear ... I, for one, kinda need a dumbed-down version of this stuff.

"Immunity for Dummies" :LOL
Skelle, as someone of only average intellect who languished at school in lower and mid stream classes I can tell you this. There is no such thing as "immunity for dummies". You sit down, you start reading, and you look up the words you don't understand. And strangely enough it makes sense. If it really gets you down, you skim over the russian words, snorkel the rest and you glean enough to get a bigger picture. Then some of the russian words, when looked up, make better sense.

All the "immunity for dummies" talks do, is ensure that the listeners never get a real handle on anything, and just do as someone else says instead.

You just THINK you need something simplified. I know full well, that you would cope just fine, because if I can, you can. And you can say. "but this and but that"... but the fact is that yes, I've been doing this for 23+ years.

Everyone has to start somewhere. You start at the beginning and keep on working. No shortcuts. Just the full immunological monty.
post #45 of 431
10/13/05 at 12:50am
Did I just purchase the wrong stuff??????????

It is Solaray Vit C 1000 mg with bioflavonoid concentrate plus rose hips and acerola. The back says Ascorbate Acid.
TIA
post #46 of 431
10/13/05 at 1:57am
Another stupid question.... Everything I'm reading is all about ascorbic acid. I know that the reason for using sodium ascorbate is to avoid gastric upset that ascorbic acid could cause, but do they work exactly the same way in the body?
post #47 of 431
10/13/05 at 1:58am
I've no idea paynetjl, becuase I live on another planet to Texas.
post #48 of 431
10/13/05 at 9:00am
um, okay?
post #49 of 431
10/13/05 at 12:28pm
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Originally Posted by paynetjl
Did I just purchase the wrong stuff??????????

It is Solaray Vit C 1000 mg with bioflavonoid concentrate plus rose hips and acerola. The back says Ascorbate Acid.
TIA
This is what I take, and it's been extremely effective! I know I'm "supposed" to be using SA, but this works for me, is cheap, and doesn't require mixing in anything, and it doesn't give me any digestive problems. And I take about 15 a day when folks around me are sick, and about 7 a day just for maintenance. Just my .02.
post #50 of 431
10/13/05 at 1:01pm
Thanks So much!!
post #51 of 431
10/13/05 at 4:45pm
fwiw, (and it's a no-brainer if you think about it) smilemomma (& and other savvy dentists) have fits about chewable c- it eats the enamel right off your children's teeth.

in the meantime (till i figure out a way to get sodium ascorbate into children that have more-or-less weaned themselves out of any appreciable amount of c from my milk) i get a liquid- they have good ones at the health food stores, but my supermkt pharmacist orders me some for convenience sometimes (whole foods has s. ascorbate? when i've been nagging wild oats for years? hmmmn, they are opening our state's first... next to the wild oats, of course, god forbid they put one closer to the 'burbs, because DRIVING an hour is so ecologically friendly- ok, rant over. anyway, at least hopefully soon i'll be able to pop in & get some. like, when i'm in TOWN. there, i'm done, really :P)

susan
post #52 of 431
10/13/05 at 9:34pm
OKay MT: Who ARE you? I'm not taking the "nutter" explanation!

That was quite an amazing post . . .
post #53 of 431
10/13/05 at 10:05pm
Hi MT,

If I were able to get my hands on a copy of the Natural Health Cookbook would you recommend that I go for it? I found it on a used book site and it says it will only be $3.50 to ship from Australia. I kind of think they'll come back with additional charges but I was wondering what you think?
post #54 of 431
10/13/05 at 11:34pm
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Originally Posted by suseyblue
fwiw, (and it's a no-brainer if you think about it) smilemomma (& and other savvy dentists) have fits about chewable c- it eats the enamel right off your children's teeth.



susan
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and : I give my ds the sodium ascorbate/ascorbic acid + bioflavinoids from Trader Joes everyday! Does the liquid have bioflavinoids? How else can I get those? And which liquid do you buy?
TIA
post #55 of 431
10/14/05 at 10:34am
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Originally Posted by Momtezuma Tuatara
I've no idea paynetjl, becuase I live on another planet to Texas.
Hey now...I hear there's some REALLY cool, intelligent people that live in Texas.
post #56 of 431
10/14/05 at 11:31am
no, unfortunately the one i have right now doesn't have bioflavinoids (the one i got for more $ from wild oats MAY have, but i don't think so.) it might be a whole lot more pita, but could you grind them up with a pestle & add them to a drink? it's the chewing that is the issue.

(my kids eat A LOT of raw oranges/tangerines with much of the white left on, so i hope that is helping on the bioflavinoid front. it is tricky till they get where they can swallow capsules, isn't it?)

susan
post #57 of 431
10/14/05 at 1:29pm
Thanks Suseyblue. My dd will take sodium ascorbate mixed with blueberry juice from a dropper, of course she is the one still nursing, so she doesn't so much need it, and my ds will sometimes. Great idea about grinding the chewables up I think I'll try it, now for a good source for good mortar and pestle .
Ditto on the oranges/tangerines, but my ds just got picky about the white parts *sigh* .
post #58 of 431
10/14/05 at 4:11pm
Sorry to be getting in on this so late, but...

Why not take Ester-C? I just spent $30 on a big bottle of it!! Can I at least finish this bottle, or is it so bad I should stop now? I purchased it because I thought it was "gentler" than sodium ascorbate and ascorbic acid.

P.S. I salt my food.

P.P.S. Going to read MT's long post. If the answer is in there, then sorry to ask...
post #59 of 431
10/14/05 at 7:43pm
thanks for the reading material, MT
post #60 of 431
10/14/05 at 8:57pm
You can finish the bottle jlpolzin. It just means you will need to take more than you would if you used sodium ascorbate. The real danger in Ester C, as I see it, is what happens when you take it long term.

I know, because I was stupid enough to do that years ago, and nearly paid the price. Fortunately, the mallet descended on my head, and I got it sorted out quick enough

chlobo, answered via PM.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Breathe
OKay MT: Who ARE you? I'm not taking the "nutter" explanation!

That was quite an amazing post . . .
I'm an old grey nag, who lives underneath the world, and hangs on just, by virtue of suction capped feet. Hence the rushes of blood to the head.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dallaschildren
Hey now...I hear there's some REALLY cool, intelligent people that live in Texas.
Yeah, well I know. I didn't mean it that way I meant that I've no way of knowing what you people who stand upright on the planet can buy, since we who hang upside down, have a different set of commercial options.

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