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Doc's gonna sew her tongue to the roof of her mouth!! Yikes!  

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DD has Pierre Robin and, therefore has an atypical cleft palate (is there actually such thing as a typical c.p.?). Anyhow, yesterday we went to see her craniofacial surgeon to discuss her upcoming jaw distraction in September. We also asked about the time-line for getting her palate repaired and were told that the tissue on her palate is in bad condition due to poor previous attempts to repair. He said that the only option at this point (beyond an obturator) is to sew her tongue to the roof of her mouth for (I think) 3 months and then slice off the part that has adhered to the palate to create a new palate.

Has anyone had this done, or even heard of it?????? Doc says it's pretty awful. And when a doc says it's bad, I worry. Would it be better to just leave the obturator in forever??? Anyone have experience with obturators?? With jaw distraction?? I need more info, though I do get some from pure health boards, but those mamas are usually not "crunchy."
post #2 of 12
No information but gosh that does sound horrible. That can't be an easy decision.
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Could a skin graft work?

You know take some skin off her thigh or buttock? I am sorry mama I have no useful advice. If the doctor says it's awful I wouldn't do it either.

Sincerely,
Debra, homeschooling mom of 4 ages 10 1/2 (AS), 9 1/2, 7 1/2, and 4 (Apraxia, Dysarthria, HFA)
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I"ve heard of them doing things like that with other parts of their bodies. If I were on speaking terms with my bio Dad I'd ask him. He's an ENT. He did something rotten and none of us are talking to him at the moment.

I know they put in balloons and things to stretch skin, to make extra skin for skin grafts. That probably won't work for the mouth. The skin you want for a palate/mouth isn't like other skin. You wouldn't want to pub leg skin in there. They probably can't put a balloon in her mouth to create extra skin that way. The technique sounds awful, but feasible. It may be the best current option.

Kiley
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Thanks very much for the support.

The reason we can't do a regular skin graft is because the palate skin is different than other available skin. Apparently, other skin cannot take the constantly wet environment.

So has anyone had experience with jaw distraction?
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I would go and join a forum or group that specializes in PRS and see what they say. Or join a cleft palate group. That does sound pretty bad.
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I would go and join a forum or group that specializes in PRS and see what they say. Or join a cleft palate group. That does sound pretty bad.
yeah, i'm there. just needed to share with y'all. cast a wide net, you know?
post #9 of 12
Can they graft from someone else's body? There is other skin on bodies that can remain wet all the time--like a cheek.
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Thanks very much for the support.

The reason we can't do a regular skin graft is because the palate skin is different than other available skin. Apparently, other skin cannot take the constantly wet environment.

So has anyone had experience with jaw distraction?
Could they do a skin graft from cheek skin?

I guess your child would need to be tube fed while all this is going on?

What's this going to do to her tongue after the second surgury? Would that be any better than what she's already dealing with now?
post #11 of 12
disclaimer: I can only say what I think I would do, not tell you what's right or wrong when it comes to your own child.

My daughter was born with a bilateral cleft palate (soft &hard, both gone) Really, no palate at all. Apalatia.

the first consult we did was with a craniofacial surgeon at Boston's Children's hospital, which is supposed to be the best of the best around here. The NICU, geneticists, and peds all bantered back and forth about whether she had Pierre Robin, and as soon as we walked into this guy's clinic, his nurse said there was "no doubt" that she did. Ok. So he came in and looked at her with medical students, (he didn't ask if we minded a bunch of students looking at our newborn like she's nothing but a medical anomaly- I usually don't mind but at least ask, you know?) told them that if she had come in at 18 months, "this palate would never be repaired" (she was only a month old at the time).

His conclusion was that he'd sew her tongue to her lip for a month to allow the palate to grow together more, and then do the surgery.

I cried all the way home because it just sounded so cruel, and we decided to get a 2nd opinion.

The second consult was at Mass General Children's Hospital, and I knew as soon as I walked in it was going to be better. Right off the bat the surgeon told us she did not have Pierre Robin. Then, he told us the technique of sewing the tongue to the lip was a controversial one, and not really proven to help in the long run.

He performed the repair in two surgeries- one at 9 months, and one at 15 months. It was a miracle she didn't need a third. Those surgeries were very, very rough on her. Both times, she refused to eat for a week afterwards. The first time, she dehydrated, her IV was knocked out and they couldn't get it back in, we constantly force fed her breastmilk from a syringe drip by drip around the clock. Awful, awful recoveries. After that second surgery, I said to DH I didn't care if she did need a third- if she needed an obturator the rest of her life, it would've been worth it to avoid that, and I really believe that.

I can honestly say if I were you, I'd stick with the obturator. No, it's not ideal. But you know, I knew a woman who had one, and it didn't bother her at all- she grew up with it, you know? And you could absolutely not tell from her speech. And, who knows what technology will be available in the future for re-repairing palates? AND- you could get a second, or third, or whatever opinion. As you can see, opinions can vary wildly when it comes to craniofacial surgeons.

It is your decision, and I know you will choose what is best for her. I think the best thing you can ask yourself is what would YOU want, if you were her? You know her best. I'm sorry you face such a difficult decision, no one could judge you either way. it's a very tough choice.
post #12 of 12
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Bri - thanks so much for your input!!! Nice to know someone else has at least heard of this crazy surgery. On the PRS board, it looks like a few of the kids have had the surgery, but I haven't gotten any feedback about it yet.

Apparently the reason that the surgery was suggested is two-fold: the previous palate repairs were botched and compromised the existing tissue making a regular repair impossible; and her arch is unusual and an obturator isn't ideal. I wish I had asked more questions at the time about why the obturator isn't a good idea.

At least we've got some time.
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