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post #1 of 4
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Here's the issue (a little long): Our neighbors, who have gone to their summer house have generously allowed our girls to use their trampoline (a fairly safe one, I think, although I'm still not a fan) and their girls' playhouse.

My girls have been having a good time playing in their yard, mostly in the playhouse and their sandbox. There's a part of their yard I told my girls not to go into - it's very well landscaped with alternating black/white pebbles and a Japanese theme. Up until today this was fine. But since we've had lots of rain, the sandbox is too wet to play in - so the girls found the pebbles. Now, I'm guessing it was the youngest (3) one that instigated this, but usually the older one (5.5) will steer her clear of things that aren't allowed, or if that doesn't work, she'll come tell me. When the girls are over at the neighbors (right behind us) I can see them from our kitchen - and so I stay there or work in the yard/hang laundry. I didn't see them for 10 minutes or so since I was putting in a new load of laundry/getting stuff from the washer to go outside. When I came out, I called for them and heard them answer back. While I was hanging out clothes (about 5 minutes later), it dawned on me that their voices were coming from the "no-go" section of back yard. Immediately I asked them both to come back inside. There were black stones in white areas and vice versa : . I told them that they were not allowed back in the neighbors back yard. The oldest claims that she was trying to get the youngest one to stop (not that I heard), and that she was innocent. While I sort of believe her, I still hold her responsible 1) playing in the pebbles too, and 2) not coming to tell me. Even if she is totally innocent, I don't want either of them back in that yard again. If I can't supervise them their 100%, then I don't feel right about it. And I can't be out back with them all day. There was screaming/crying/nashing of teeth on their side, and the oldest refused to come back in the house, which is when I started shouting. Am I being too harsh on the older one? It would not work to have only one child allowed over there and not the other. What would you have done???? I'm mortified for the neighbors to see their pebbles, so me and my 35week preg. body are going to be sorting stones tonight. (I don't want the girls back even anywhere near the stones, as work wouldn't get done and a further mess could be made.)
post #2 of 4
I think a three and five-year-old are too young to be alone in a yard with a trampoline and off-limits zones.

I'd chalk this up to a lesson learned, and just be glad no one was hurt.
post #3 of 4
Oh, I would go over and apologize before the neighbor's have a chance to see it. Or leave a note on their door. But I suspect they will be cool about it, since they were generous enough to invite your kids and hopefully intelligent enough to know the risk to their landscaping.

I have mixed feelings about the problem itself -- I think its too hard on a five year old to expect her to be responsible for a three year old's actions. In any fashion, even just to come tell you. You are basically expecting her to supervise her sister and thats just too hard.

But I probaby would not have let them go over there without adult supervision in the first place. Esp. with the trampoline. So now that you've come around to that conclusion on your own, I think maybe the best way to handle it is to tell the kids that you've changed your mind, that they aren't ready, and that you are sorry you didn't realize that sooner -- and make an effort from time to time to take them over there and supervise them for short periods of time. Its a shame that this is feeling like a punishment to them.... which I'm sure it is. But really I think its just about maturity and readiness.
post #4 of 4
It doesn't matter who first went into the "not allowed zone" or started playing with the pebbles. You don't know for certain that the 5yo didn't start or encourage it. I think they're both equally "guilty" here, and any consequences SHOULD include both children.

They've proven that they're not responsible enough to play out there without adult supervision. Since you can't be out there all day with them, they'll have to play outside in shorter bursts, and come in when you do.

IMO, any child who won't come inside when told to do so has just lost the chance to go outside at all for a short period of time. I would have (and have had) a good long talk with the 5yo about rules, safety, listening to Mommy, and how he (in your case, she) can't be trusted outside unless s/he comes back inside when called.
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