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So I posted about my niece and nephew arrrivng last night and how I'm anxious since i feel fairly certain that my sil is pro circ. I flat out asked my brother "so, are you going to cut that boy?" and he replied that he hadn't made up his mind yet. So it's not done - yet. He wouldn't talk to me about it - "I know your opinion and I don't want to talk about it", he doesn't want to talk about it with anyone. I told him I loved him and respected him and that it isn't my choice, but that while it can always be done later (pref. as an adult if at all) it can't be put back on! Also, I reminded him that he doesn't own his son's body. My brother admitted to me months ago that he agreed with me, but he won't discuss anything to do with sexuality or those parts of the body (I can't even say I'm on my period). His wife is from PA, 1st generation Greek (her parents immigrated here and are very old fashioned about circ - very pro) and her brother is an MD who has expressed paranoia about HIV (for instance, the man wouldn't let his kids use their toilet in San Francisco because my sil had gay friends over : ), so they could be hearing about the HIV stuff. And who knows about their doctor? they're at UPenn, a big hospital. At least the twins are nursing. I also told my brother that if he circs, he must be ther to make sure they use good anesthesia and he said "I know". He's just very closed about the whole thing. But I expressed my feelings and I feel a bit better - after all, I gave all the info, they won't discuss it, what else can I do?? At least I've turned my mom to the good side through all of this! Thanks for the love MDCers, I'll let you know what happens.
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I so hope they listen to you even if they don't discuss it. Keep us updated. Alot of wise vibes to your brother's way...
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Your wonderful letter was the last information that I sent to my sil (actually the only info - I had been afraid to talk to her because my brother didn't want me to), so I thank you for that Yulia. My mom said, "if she circs after reading that she's just stupid!" and my mom is a nurse who used to be pro circ! My dad is also on board - he's going to try with my brother too. My dad is intact and has always believed that circ is to deaden the sensation for a man (though today is the 1st time I've ever discussed it with him! He's smarter than I thought LOL!).
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Your wonderful letter was the last information that I sent to my sil (actually the only info - I had been afraid to talk to her because my brother didn't want me to), so I thank you for that Yulia. My mom said, "if she circs after reading that she's just stupid!" and my mom is a nurse who used to be pro circ! My dad is also on board - he's going to try with my brother too. My dad is intact and has always believed that circ is to deaden the sensation for a man (though today is the 1st time I've ever discussed it with him! He's smarter than I thought LOL!).
I'm very happy that you email her this letter of mine. I put it together for my dh's friend, who is a famous writer (has two circ'd sons) and so I hoped could be heard on the subject (since he is a writer) if he wanted to. But he just brushed it off . The fact that he's Jewish and lives in Israel where circ rate is close to 100% didn't help either ...
Hopefully, this letter will at least help you in your good brave fight!
post #5 of 7
Her brother is an MD who thinks you can catch HIV off toilet seats? :

O. M. G.

No wonder HIV is still spreading, who needs careless laypeople when there are doctors like that....
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I'm confused that that her parents are greek and are pro-circ. Did they embrace the American dream and culture lock stock and barrel??
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Her parents immigrated (emmigrated??) 50 years ago and bought circ as part of fitting into our culture, ffeeding as well. Her father, a nice man, has worked as a tailor in Philly for those 50 years and still barely speaks English. They don't feel the need and often only speak Greek with my SIL around us and my brother (they tell him he needs to learn Greek and don't consider it rude). The story about her MD brother came from my brother (the new dad), and though he is a bit dramatic, I've seen enough to believe him. Top it off, her brother and his family live in Ohio (Dayton), they have a boy and a girl - I'm sure they circ'd and my SIL apparently idolizes them as examples of parents to emulate. They are nice people, again, but according to my brother a bit wacked in the head.
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