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post #1 of 6
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When my Girl Scout troop starts meeting again in September, we expect to have about 15 members, which is almost twice as many as last year. This is great news but also a little daunting! My assistant and I are looking for a third leader to help us. We're also trying to rethink our general procedures and plan ahead for things that need or may need to change. Here's what we've been pondering so far:

Patrol system: Last year we divided the girls into 3 patrols (smaller groups); this year we'll do 4. Having one patrol at a time do things, or giving each patrol a special responsibility, may be the solution to many issues.

Meeting room: Last year we met in a lounge area in the church basement, which has a sink and drinking fountain. It's an L-shaped room with couches on both sides of one end, table and 12 chairs at the bend, open space in the other end. Typically we'd sit on the couches for "talky" activities, spread our tablecloth in the open area and sit on the floor around it for snack, and use the table for crafts. Neither the couch area nor the table is big enough for 18 people (15 girls+3 leaders) so we're going to ask if we can move upstairs to the library, which is about 20 feet square and has couches and chairs that are easily moved around. However, the only tables are a heavy one against the wall and some end tables, and there is no plumbing on the entire second floor. We'll need to set a policy so girls aren't constantly going back and forth to the bathroom downstairs.

Snacks: Leaders bring snacks bought with troop dues. Obviously we'll have to bring larger quantities. We used to have them drink from the fountain if they were thirsty. Will we have to bring individual beverages (wasteful and expensive!) or can we work out a way of drinking water from cups and washing the cups?

Business meeting: Last year we had this portion of the meeting (when we make announcements, discuss plans, vote, etc.) while eating our snack. Everyone was able to listen and participate in a single conversation. Each girl got a chance to express her opinion at least briefly. This will be less feasible with a larger group.

Supplies: A bigger group complicates the logistics of getting each girl the materials she needs to do an activity. Of course we'll buy additional scissors, etc., but how can we streamline the distribution of stuff when they're eager to get started?

Time management: We've always struggled with getting the meeting started, snack eaten, and business done in a timely manner so we have enough time for our main activity and can end the meeting on time. More people=more distractions to slow us down!

Any ideas for the above, or other things we need to think about?
post #2 of 6
My dh is a cub scout den leader and I help him with the meetings. Last year we had 11 scouts. By the end of the year, we finally found a system that worked pretty well for us. We split the group into three smaller groups and had the activities set up in different stations.

We would do our opening ceremony, followed by announcements, then split into the groups. We had 10-15 minutes at each station, then would rotate the boys to the next one. So, there was never more than 3 or 4 boys at each station at a time. We always had to enlist the help of one of the parents in order to have an adult at each station. Luckily, we had a lot of parents very willing to help out. Then, after the stations were done, we had snack and a closing ceremony.

I don't know how old your scouts are, but ours were just 2nd graders last year and, in a large group, it was so easy for individual scouts to lose interest in an activity or for a couple of boys to finish a project much faster than the rest. The stations kept everyone on track and engaged much better. Behavior improved dramatically and the boys seemed to enjoy the meetings more too.

As far as snack goes, we had a snack calendar and each family took turns bringing snack. The family also brought drinks.

Supplies - This was a little harder with a big group, for sure.
When we started splitting up into stations, we found it was much easier. Not every activity needed scissors, glue or whatever. So, we only needed 3 or 4 of each thing instead of 11. Before we did the stations, we would be calling other parents asking them if they could bring things in - we asked for hammers once, as well as yarn needles, and several other things - lol.

Good luck. That is a big group to lead!
post #3 of 6
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The girls are in 4th-6th grade, so their attention span is longer, and often our main activity is something that, if it has steps, the steps have to be done in order and the girls go from one to the next at their own pace. For example, after we award badges, the next meeting is a "sewing bee" where we sit around and chat while they sew on their badges. It's up to each girl to sew at the speed she prefers and move on to the next badge when she finishes one. What's problematic for us leaders is getting the supplies doled out (everyone needs a needle...everyone chooses which badge to sew first and wants the appropriate color thread NOW so she can get started) quickly without a lot of chaos. With 8 girls we had only occasional trouble; with 15 I can see it being more difficult.

At times when we have a few shorter activities, rotating patrols around the activities sounds like a good idea.

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As far as snack goes, we had a snack calendar and each family took turns bringing snack. The family also brought drinks.
We did it this way in the Brownie troop where I was assistant leader before this troop, and we had several problems:
*nutritionally horrifying, wastefully packaged snacks in huge portions
*competition over who provided the "best" snack
*the few girls whose families can't afford to provide snack felt left out
*confusion over whose turn it was, despite frequent nagging by leaders
*failure to recall that we have one troop member who cannot eat any sugar
*parents believed that if their daughter was sick or otherwise wound up not coming to the meeting when she was supposed to bring snack, they were under no obligation to bring it...but when somebody else failed to bring it, they believed their hungry kids DESERVED a snack and leaders should somehow pull one out of thin air!

So, leaders brought snacks last year, and we felt it worked well. Still wondering what to do about beverages if we move upstairs with no water fountain, though.
post #4 of 6
My 2nd DD's troop is a co-op and has been since brownies. There is an official leader and co-leader, but every girl has a parent who is a registered member of Girl Scouts. We have 2 meetings a year that we are responsible for organizing or helping with. Various moms (not just the leaders) help with campouts, field trips, etc.

It works out well and prevents leader burn out.

Hope that helps,
post #5 of 6
I like the stations idea.

At this age, they can and should be able to take care of some of the organizational stuff (handing things out, etc.) on their own. For example, for passing things out, if you can get things ready ahead of time, then you can hand thing out to the 'patrol' and then have the patrol distribute them among themselves. So, make up 4 packets of stuff, give 4 packets to the patrol and have each girl take one. Or have one patrol responsible for handing out needles, while one does the thread, etc.

I would devote the first meeting to coming up with some 'pack rules' about behavior, and ask their opinions about how best to conduct discussions, etc.

For discussions, I would try a mix of things - so times when you have 'whole group' discussions and each girl that wants to say something can, and then times when the patrol discusses the issue and reports back to the whole group as to what they discussed. (By the way, this doesn't save much time, but it DOES help those girls who are less comfortable speaking in a large group.)

I would do a bathroom break halfway through the meeting where each patrol goes down to the bathroom (accompanied by a leader?) and back up again. (With the understanding, of course, that in an emergency, they can always ask to go to the bathroom.)

I would continue to buy snacks for the group, since the problems you mentioned for parents bringing them are pretty convincing.

Can you have the girls bring their own water bottles? If you're in a library, make sure they have closed tops. You can tell the parents that only water is allowed because you're in the library (partly true ). That gets around the issue of some girls bringing pop, or whatever. If money is an issue for some parents, maybe you can finance water bottles out of whatever you would have spent to bring drinks? Label them with their names, have the girls wash them each week, and bring them with the troop stuff.
post #6 of 6
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Ooh! I like the idea of girls bringing their own water bottles! That way we don't have to spend meeting time washing cups, and there's less risk of spills.

I'd love to have more parents involved, but we don't get much response to our repeated pleading. Many of the parents are very busy. Some have their girls get to meetings by carpool because the parent just isn't able to be there at that time. If we required each to do 2 meetings a year, they'd probably just pull their girls out.
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