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post #301 of 411
I should clarify also that I never said ppl who go to wm are awful or don't care or whatnot. Target gives mone to the republicans, yuck, but I shop there anyhow. All I am saying is ppl make choices and we should all own those choices.
post #302 of 411
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When use words like "everyone" and then you know right from this thread that there are people telling you differently... well, you are not hearing them or what? They're liars? They don't exist, they're not part of "everyone"? OR you're taking your reality, made up your values and experiences, and superimposing them on other people with ALL or NOTHING statements; further, coupled with the context of this thread, that WM is evil (and I do agree) that anyone who does not walk on water or sprout wings to fly somewhere else to shop fails at life. Ok, I admit to the hyperbole at the end but gimme a Kit-Kat bar already!
I am typing one handed with babby so not able to spew anger as fast, bear with me ....

They are not liars nor not part of everyone nor expected to fly. The are making choices. We all do. We might make cjoices we don't like or feel one thing is the best of several bad options, etc but we all make choices. No one is forced to shop at wm.
post #303 of 411
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Hi, Nantahala,

This is my post that you responded to with the above comments:

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Sorry, I will go with making a difference where I can. And if that means a boycott, that is what I will do with my money.

I think it's sad that you don't think it is important to try to make a difference. Boycotts can work and even if WalMart is not the only evil company in the world, at least I am making a small dent in their practices with my hard-earned money.

And could we all please remember that this thread is about WalMart, after all? So if someone is saying Wal-Mart is bad, good, or indifferent, those are all relevant parts of the thread. For Heaven's sake!

So maybe you wrote back to me by mistake? At any rate no hard feelings and thanks for the link to the book.
Oy! Too much quoting, yes, I meant to quote the above with my last post to you. I need a quote-handler.

The book is SO so good. I cannot recommend it enough, I wish it were getting more attention because the information is incredible.
post #304 of 411
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I am typing one handed with babby so not able to spew anger as fast, bear with me ....

They are not liars nor not part of everyone nor expected to fly. The are making choices. We all do. We might make cjoices we don't like or feel one thing is the best of several bad options, etc but we all make choices. No one is forced to shop at wm.
true, some people could choose to not have anything to feed their kids.
post #305 of 411
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I am typing one handed with babby so not able to spew anger as fast, bear with me ....

They are not liars nor not part of everyone nor expected to fly. The are making choices. We all do. We might make cjoices we don't like or feel one thing is the best of several bad options, etc but we all make choices. No one is forced to shop at wm.
Not everyone has the same set of choices. Choice is often directly proportional with variables like location, transportation, money, etc. A choice is not a choice is not a choice. I'd love to eat 100% local organic but other variables hider that choice in ways I can't just change with a snap of some fingers.

And if you mean handcuffs, whips and chains, yes, I agree no one is forced to shop at Wal-Mart or any of the box stores.
post #306 of 411
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Not everyone has the same set of choices. Choice is often directly proportional with variables like location, transportation, money, etc. A choice is not a choice is not a choice. I'd love to eat 100% local organic but other variables hider that choice in ways I can't just change with a snap of some fingers.
True. I don't disagree. Sometimes we have to make choices about changing or choices. I suspect you and I would actually get along. My friends went to the conference of the4 same title as that book. I also think it is wonderful.
post #307 of 411
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True. I don't disagree. Sometimes we have to make choices about changing or choices. I suspect you and I would actually get along. My friends went to the conference of the4 same title as that book. I also think it is wonderful.
No doubt, no doubt. I'm not meaning to personalize any of this in a "I don't like you I am taking my ball away" fashion. Disregard me if I come off that way. I am working on "tone" it's not my forté.
post #308 of 411
Ahh! It's you! I just saw you picture and we know eachother

i am being inarticulate one handed with cranky newborn
post #309 of 411
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true, some people could choose to not have anything to feed their kids.


Apparently thats now a choice that is acceptable to make, as long as we're not shopping at walmart.
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Apparently thats now a choice that is acceptable to make, as long as we're not shopping at walmart.
not in my world mama
post #311 of 411
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Ahh! It's you! I just saw you picture and we know eachother

i am being inarticulate one handed with cranky newborn
LOL! I would not be winning the scavenger hunt for clues anytime soon.

Congrats on the new babe! I hope you all are doing well!!!

Topic? I got nothing.
post #312 of 411
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Not everyone has the same set of choices. Choice is often directly proportional with variables like location, transportation, money, etc. A choice is not a choice is not a choice. I'd love to eat 100% local organic but other variables hider that choice in ways I can't just change with a snap of some fingers.

And if you mean handcuffs, whips and chains, yes, I agree no one is forced to shop at Wal-Mart or any of the box stores.

ITA w/this. You just can't have this type of discussion without realizing not everyone has the same choices in which to make decisions. Some folks live in rural places with great little co-ops, have access to land, etc. Some live in places where there are no great co-ops, have little land and the chpice may literally be feed my kids or don't feed them. In that case I think we know what the choice is going to be.

Shay
post #313 of 411
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You shouldn't have to explain yourself to anyone; one would expect an AP/MDC mama is doing what she can with what she has. Benefit of the doubt? Trust? Believing people when they tell you they are doing the best they can? I guess that's no longer in style.
You'd think so, right. But by 16 pages of post going back and forth about why Walmart is evil, why you shouldn't shop there, why you could go without, how you could make other choices, why you don't care about the world, support child labor, don't care about a fair wage, don't have any morals...well it's hard to not feel like you should offer up some sort of excuse.

I said it before and I'll say it again, I shop there, enjoy shopping there, will continue to shop there. That's it, period. I have tons of other stores in my area. I'm making a conscious choice to go there. Just as I make a choice to drive a big a$$ SUV. I just like Walmart.
post #314 of 411
I do think that at 16 pages this is getting to be a bit much. If one wants to learn more about Wal-Mart and their practices, there are plenty of websites where you can do so. I think the thread was profitable in that it may have led some ( myself included) to question their shopping habits and think more about the choices that are available in their areas.
post #315 of 411
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You'd think so, right. But by 16 pages of post going back and forth about why Walmart is evil, why you shouldn't shop there, why you could go without, how you could make other choices, why you don't care about the world, support child labor, don't care about a fair wage, don't have any morals...well it's hard to not feel like you should offer up some sort of excuse.

I said it before and I'll say it again, I shop there, enjoy shopping there, will continue to shop there. That's it, period. I have tons of other stores in my area. I'm making a conscious choice to go there. Just as I make a choice to drive a big a$$ SUV. I just like Walmart.
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I shop there occasionally, some food items are cheaper, some baby and toiletry stuff is cheaper, and when I can't find it fast at a thrift store or garage sale or simply prefer new, I will buy furniture there. They also sell nice cheap craft supplys.

On average though, I shop elsewhere, but I will still continue to shop there. On average our local meijers is cheaper when I combine my coupons and their sales, of which walmart has very little. Just like aldi, we went there yesterday, what a crock! most the things there were more expensive (yes even staples like sugar and flour) than my local meijers and the meijers stuff is higher quality. One lady checked out in front of me, and got a cart full of generic crap, and spent $350..... I got a huge pile of name brand stuff grochery shopping lastnight, including high quality meat and name brand toiletpaper, at 3 different stores, and still spent less than her, for more! (and because of my coupons i saved $75 at meijers
post #316 of 411
FTR, DH checked milk prices yesterday. Safeway is the cheapest on sale.
Walmart is the cheapest regular price.
Costco is higher than Safeway's regular price.

wonderwahine, I second the craft supply thing. They are pretty much my only source for craft supplies. I can pay shipping, or I can just not do one of the things that gives me and my dcs pleasure.
post #317 of 411
I've kept quiet through this whole thread, just reading what everyone's wrote, taking it all in. Now I think I'll say it:

I SHOP AT WAL-MART They pay our bills. Without them, we would have NO food on our table, no $$ for our bills, NADA!!!

DH is the dept mgr of our local WM's photo lab and is currently interviewing to move up to an Asst Mgr position. It's the ONLY place that would give him a job. And yes, I do mean the ONLY place. He's applied in ALL SORTS of fields. In-state, out-of-state, in his field, outside his field. Do you know that the local Target wouldn't hire him b/c he was "overqualified" for all their jobs yet he can't get a job in his field?? Before WM, he was working for a privately owned store and the owner was a total UA violation who took advantage of DH in every way he possibly could.

So, I'm thankful for WM. They made every attempt to start DH at the highest wage they could b/c he had a family to support. They've made all attempts at giving him whatever he's needed thus far. True, we can't afford the healthcare right now, but it was worse when he worked at the mom & pop store. And FTR, I would like to point out that MANY of the M&P places around here won't pay close to what our local WM does. Not b/c they can't afford it (b/c believe me, they're doing quite well despite the WM being here) but b/c they DON'T WANT TO TAKE FROM THEIR BOTTOM LINE!!! That's actually what DH's old boss told him when he cut DH's pay b/c he couldn't afford to have DH at the wage he was making (which was right above the poverty level) AND have a 40% profit margin.

And y'know what, I would say that a good majority of the employees who work at DH's WM ENJOY IT!!!! <GASP> Many have said that WM is the best employer they've worked for <GASP> There's no rule about not getting a 2nd job, as a matter of fact, they're pretty flexible w/ their hours. Did DH have to tell anyone about his religion or values?? No, I don't know where that statement came from : He had to take a brief quiz about what he would do in certain stealing instances, but that was it.

Do I buy everything at WM? No. We don't NEED everything that WM carries. BUT, I buy what little I do need from there, and leave the rest.
post #318 of 411
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Originally Posted by sabrinat View Post

I said it before and I'll say it again, I shop there, enjoy shopping there, will continue to shop there. That's it, period. I have tons of other stores in my area. I'm making a conscious choice to go there. Just as I make a choice to drive a big a$$ SUV. I just like Walmart.
I feel at bit sick to my stomach right now, reading this makes me wonder if you are actually trying to incite more argument or if you are just proud to be polluting the environment and completely turning a blind eye to everything that has been discussed here.
post #319 of 411
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I feel at bit sick to my stomach right now, reading this makes me wonder if you are actually trying to incite more argument or if you are just proud to be polluting the environment and completely turning a blind eye to everything that has been discussed here.


Ty! I can't believe someone would post such rubbish on a nfl site.

If that isn't the biggest load of pot stirring I;ve seen in a long time.
post #320 of 411
THere are poor people all over the world living without walmart. The difference is, they make due with less stuff/junk. And no, toilet paper is not junk, but most people are not just buying toilet paper at walmart.

Its so frustrating that so many people don't understand how walmart perpetuates the cycle of poverty in the communities they are in
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