Saved $16 but feeling a little guilty - Page 21

[bigeyes]

Originally Posted by erthe_mama

Ditto on the long legs and FMS, however, I have an Aveo for my family which is small, fuel efficient and comfortable. It can also fit two adults and two to three kids. I found it pretty comfy in the back seat myself actually. Just sayin.

I haven't tried one of those yet. Mostly I tend to drive as little as possible now, but I really feel it in our teeny tiny mazda. The truck, not so much.

[greenwoman2006]

Originally Posted by Maeve

Our budget is pretty tight now, but we still won't shop at Walmart. For one thing, they really aren't any cheaper than other stores (in my personal experience). Another thing is there just aren't a whole lot of things we really *need*, kwim? We make our own cleaning supplies, use cloth rags/wipes/etc, and just try to all around cut back on what we buy.
I just refuse to shop at Walmart. I will not support them. Period.

Great job Mama! I make some of our cleaning supplies, and have to buy unscented all-natural anyway, as I have terrible allergies. So we pay more for some natural items, but balance that with freecycling and thrift store shopping.

We get almost all of our clothing at thrift stores, and my dd has tons of new and used clothes that have been given to her. We shop at the farmers market and our local small grocer. And we are on a tight budget. I don't understand how people "need" to shop at Walmart. We have been completely broke and in debt, and have now pulled ourselves up to a respectable almost broke and in debt. I don't recall having shopped at Walmart as an adult, but I knew I would never shop there when I read an article about Walmart in 1996 stating that women from China who were in Sai Pan, who were working at Walmart factories (and Gap, and some other corporations), were being forced into abortions. I am pro-choice. That is CHOICE. And there are so many reasons to not shop at Walmart, but a FORCED ABORTION. That is an evil criminal act. And whether it was merely the factory managers or supervisors, or whatever. I don't care. Walmart knows what they sow. And Ken DeLay was their cheerleader and protector.

[greenwoman2006]

Originally Posted by swimswamswum

While I understand your situation, I resent that you are referring to ethical boycotts of Walmart as "snobbish". It's not about being a snob, it's about not contributing to a known human rights violating, environmentally exploitative company.

A-men Sister! And maybe I go to the "lesser evil" store (Target), once or twice a year, but I know that green companies like Seventh Generation won't sell to Walmart, they sell to Target because their ethical standards and business practices are more in line with what Seventh Generation envisions. That tells me something.

I believe that using the term "snobbish" somehow makes it seem as if Walmart is being persecuted somehow. Give me a break. :

[greenwoman2006]

Originally Posted by bigeyes

I am a huge believer in letting my money speak.

For example, I couldn't boycott Disney if I tried. They own everything.

http://www.cjr.org/resources/

I am not a fan of walmart, but where I live we have little choice. I shop there. I also shop at my farmer's market and the local grocery, but I can't afford to buy all of my groceries there because their markup is insane. I shop at Costco and Safeway, Longs, Kmart, and wherever else I pass on my route home if something is on sale. But Walmart and Costco get the bulk of my money.

I save my boycotting energy for Nike, Adidas, designer clothing and various name brand items.

You know, every Disney item we own was given to us or purchased used from a thrift store. There aren't many, but I know that poor Winnie the Pooh was bought out by Disney.

[greenwoman2006]

Originally Posted by Mackenzie

I just finished managing a Fair Trade store. I am on an exceptionally small budget. Probably smaller than most here.

I could go on and on about why Wal-Mart is an abomination, and damning those who shop there but it comes down to this:

My WANT of cheap CRAP does not outweigh the life needs of those who produce those goods. The biggest EXCUSE I see for people who shop at Wal-Mart is the glorious category of "household goods". Screw that, things like toilet paper, laundry soap and scrub brushes are not a life need. They just aren't. Those things can be improvised in one fashion or another and I would rather do that than compromise my morals and shop with the devil.

"Shop with the Devil...Always", that should be Walmart's slogan, lol!

I loved what you had to say so much, I just checked out your homepage. I never do that. And your site is very cool. It is wonderful that there are women like you in the world!

[greenwoman2006]

I have read through many many pages of this thread, and consistently I hear from Walmart shoppers that they have no choice. I am sorry for those that honestly believe that they have no choice but to shop there. And if Sprawlmart is seriously the ONLY store within a 50 mile radius, as some have claimed, I guess one would have to shop there if they had to shop. I would grow my own food.

One thing that this thread has opened my eyes to is that shopping at the other department stores is not much better than shopping at Walmart. I don't really do that much shopping except for food, or used items at estate sales and thrift stores. But if we need a fan in summer, I wonder where I should get it. Oh, I know, Freecycle!

There is always an alternative. I have read a lot of people on here making excuses. And I appreciate that there are those here that try to keep their Walmart shopping to a minimum. But I have seriously been talking to my hubby about trying the "don't buy anything for a year" plan (excluding food and maybe toilet paper). This is because I am so sick and disgusted at what our nation has become. We spend and spend and waste and waste. Our country IS the corporatocracy and it is because we demand endless amounts of plastic crap that breaks in a minute and gets chucked into the landfills. And we demand so much more. I am disgusted, and I am going to act by completely cutting out the unnecessary crap. I am glad that I read this thread.

[erthe_mama]

: What greenwoman said. I've been thinking of doing this for a while, but I think I'll start very soon now. Thanks for the inpiration, mamas.

[erthe_mama]

Originally Posted by bigeyes

I haven't tried one of those yet. Mostly I tend to drive as little as possible now, but I really feel it in our teeny tiny mazda. The truck, not so much.

Well if you find yourself in the market for another car, I'm sure you could get a great price on a used one. Hope it works out.

[Aguazul]

Originally Posted by greenwoman2006

But I have seriously been talking to my hubby about trying the "don't buy anything for a year" plan (excluding food and maybe toilet paper). This is because I am so sick and disgusted at what our nation has become. We spend and spend and waste and waste. Our country IS the corporatocracy and it is because we demand endless amounts of plastic crap that breaks in a minute and gets chucked into the landfills. And we demand so much more. I am disgusted, and I am going to act by completely cutting out the unnecessary crap. I am glad that I read this thread.

You might want to join us over at the Compacting Mommas thread. You'll find there are some who are more or less strict in what they are allowing themselves to buy, but its great to be on this path with others.

[KatWrangler]

Originally Posted by bigeyes

So, is Kmart just the same?
What about Longs Drugs?
Walgreens?
Safeway?

My question is, is it only Walmart? Everywhere I go, things are made everywhere but the USA.

I know Walmart is an evil empire, but I don't think they are the only one. And we are not like most states that have a whole lot of choices. We are sparsely populated and must drive long distances to get to anything. I don't have a lot of mom and pop stores to choose from. My local market is a chain also, and is a tourist trap.

I am not arguing that Walmart is great, I know they aren't. I'm saying where I live I don't have as many options as I did in a booming metropolis. And I don't know anything about the factories where my Costco merchandise comes from either.

The reality is, I am not going to pay shipping so I can buy from the mainland. I have Walmart, Kmart, Safeway, Costco, Longs, some farmer's markets and fruit stands, and a chain called Malama Markets. It is a 2 hour drive to get to anything, and if it is out of stock, I can't get it for anywhere from 2 months to never.

I'm not a huge fan, but if Walmart has what I need, I will get it there. I'm not happy about it, but I'm running out of options. They say we will have a Target in 2009, but they have been working on a highway improvement project that was supposed to take a few years for something like a decade, so who knows?

Yepper. We are in a small town of 30k. Its 120 miles to the closests big town of 90K. I have very limited choices. I am hating Walmart more and more, but right now I am stuck.

[loitering]

Originally Posted by greenwoman2006

You know, every Disney item we own was given to us or purchased used from a thrift store. There aren't many, but I know that poor Winnie the Pooh was bought out by Disney.

I'm so sad that Winnie the Pooh is Disney. I have a big soft spot in my heart for WtP. I've managed to get lots of stuff second hand though.