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post #21 of 122
Well, come on over to our local public pool and you will see such a mass of young humanity it will restore your faith in our younger generation's love of outdoor play.

Seriously, it's been wall to wall kids for weeks out here. I don't think we have too much to worry about.
post #22 of 122
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Originally Posted by mistymama View Post
It is just way too hot to send my child out to play .. that, and he's only 4.5 so he's way too young.

It's really too hot to go to parks for any period of time, so we like to go to the local water park. I bought a season pass and my son has a blast playing with the other kids, while staying cool.

I played some outside while growing up, but I also spent plenty of time indoors reading, playing with friends, etc. I just don't see the big deal about inside time. My son and I spend many afternoons planting, painting, reading .. all indoors. Heck, I don't think there are any kids home in the afternoons where we live anyway, nearly everyone here works full time.

Anyway, we much prefer to be indoors, or at the water park for hours on end when it's this hot and I don't really see the big deal.
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5:00-6:30 I am leaving work, fighting rush hour traffic and walking in the door at 6:30pm. I am then trying to answer the question "What's for dinner"

5:00-6:30 DH (WAHD and takes care of DS during the day ) can be anywhere in the city (with DS) coming home from meeting a client. Sometimes, he is picking me up from work during this time and since we have both been working all day we are scrounging trying to get DS fed. Even if it means going out to dinner as a family.

DH and I are both full time working parents and those are hideous hours for us.


I'm in GA too, but you have to be realistic, we are experiencing 95+ degree weather here. That's too hot. We took DS to the playground one day last week and not 15 minutes later the sweat was poring down our face and his breathing turned shallow. We could not sustain the heat.

DH and I packed him up and left. It was simply too hot. When it gets cooler we will start back spending more time outside. But supervised.

DS is too young to play alone outside unsupervised.

Further, I PREFER to see Parents who are supervising their older kids (Ages 9 and up).

As for "Where are the Kids??" Well, that's a loaded question if you ask me...this is summer time and most kids I know are in Summer Camps or their Local YMCA.

I have tons of neices and nephews and I can tell you that's exactly where they are. I would think that being in Summer Camp allows them outside play as well.

And here in GA, we are extremely fortunate to have LOTS of cool indoor places where the Kids are protected from brutal 95+ degree weather:

The GA Aquarium
Monkey Joes

Are just to name a few.

Six Flags over GA is offering season passes, White Water, American Adventures, Dixieland Fun Park------->Maybe some kids are at these fun exciting places!
post #23 of 122
this must be the GA thread. I was raised in a snooty little neighborhood in Dunwoody/Roswell. Back then we biked, skateboarded, crossed the golf course to get to the Majic Market, walked to the swimming pool.... all unsupervised. My mom would ring a cow bell at 6pm, to let us know it was time to skedaddle home for dinner.

Same neighborhood today - no way. I moved to Århus in 2000 and I have two kids, one nearly 3, the other 8 months. My kids are raised like I was back then, and I am soooo grateful. By next summer my DS will be able to go to the playground by himself. He will be able to walk or bike himself to school by age 5 or 6.

I think it is important for kids to have some unsupervised time. Not just for the physical health, though that is important too. It allows their creativity to blossom. It allows them to be with other kids and do things with kids without the adult eye 100% on top of them. It allows them to get into a little trouble and use their brains and resources to figure out how to get out of it.

I don't mean letting a 3 year old out for 5 hours, completely unsupervised. But some are posting about an 8 or 10 year old being too young. I worry for these kids. What happens when they turn 16 or 18 or go off to school, and it is the first time they have to function by themselves?
post #24 of 122
PS - regarding the weather - I think that is an excuse. It is horrible weather here 95% of the time. Deep snow, freezing, long and dark winters, pissing rain a lot of the spring and fall, summer which goes from 92f on wednesday to only 68f on friday.... Our kids are out almost every single day. In the summer, t-shirt and shorts with sun screen and a lot of water with them if it is hot. Snow boots, coats, hats, mittins.... in the winter.
post #25 of 122
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Originally Posted by pigpokey View Post
Well, most of Europe does a little better at this than the US, right?
In my personal experience, I believe that's true.
I live in Europe now though I was in the US before here.

Here there are kids out all the time and the parks are packed. I try to go to the park with my daughter when we visit my mother in the mid-west and there is no one around. I never even see anyone walking anywhere or even in their gardens! I am always surprised how scheduled everything in for kids in the US.
post #26 of 122
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PS - regarding the weather - I think that is an excuse.
I don't consider it an excuse at all. If you see your child turning beet red and trying to catch his breath, how is bringing him inside from the hot hot sun an excuse? :
post #27 of 122
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Originally Posted by AllisonR View Post
It is horrible weather here 95% of the time. Deep snow, freezing, long and dark winters, pissing rain a lot of the spring and fall, summer which goes from 92f on wednesday to only 68f on friday.... Our kids are out almost every single day.
Good for you.
post #28 of 122
When we go to the big park(where we have to drive to get to it) there are always tonnes of kids around.

But from 5-6:30pm alot of people are eating supper.
post #29 of 122
We live in the country so our kids can play outside whenever they want, hot or cold weather. We also have our own pool so we don't have to deal with crazy pool rules Besides the nearest pool is 12 miles away.

There is no way I would send 8+ year old to the park to play alone. Way too many weirdos.

And I really do believe kids where safer when we where kids.
post #30 of 122
All I can tell you is that in our area, there are kids, of all ages, out side all blessed day. And when they get out of school at 3pm they are out side till it is dark. I just love it.

However, as a SAHM with 2 small kids (3 1/2 and 1) the park at "nap time" and dinner time is just plain dead. I wouldn't count on that as a baramoter of whether or not kids are playing out side.

And yes, the weather is a valid reason - not excuse. My DS cannot handle the heat. Bottom line. Cannot. We stay indoors till DH gets home from work then we go swimming.
post #31 of 122
I think this is incredibly judgemental. Just because kids don't hang out in the neighborhood as much anymore doesn't mean they are inside playing video games or watching tv. Maybe people are taking vacation or having dinner together. In our neighborhood, there are a lot of kids out riding bikes, but I also notice that a lot more people have pools than when I was a kid and people tend to hang out in their own backyards than on the street.


Personally, I wouldn't let my kids go off around the neighborhood without me, but they are still young (3 & 6). I think children are exposed to things much younger than they used to be, and I don't want my children around kids that I don't know and whose family I don't know. We play a lot in our yard.
post #32 of 122
weird... in our neighborhood, the weather is such that any adult human could not go outside for more than 5-10 minutes... The streets and parks (1-2 parks per block) are always LINED with kids. Seriously, the children here do not go inside in the summer time. That is one of the reasons we picked our neighborhood.
post #33 of 122
I agree 100%. When I was growing up in the 70s and early 80s kids were out from the crack of dawn until after dark in all weather. Kids are (or were in my day) very resiliant to weather. They can play in the coldest cold and the hottest hot. Now you rarely see kids out. The "it's more dangerous now" excuss is just crazy to me. There have always been crazy people out there. My sister's best friend was abducted at age 12 (in the late 70s) and they've never found her

I have 2 teen age boys and growing up they and their friends hardly ever went out. They would hang in the house playing video games with each other far more then they were outside. We now live on a small dead end street and I'm happy to say that kids are out playing a lot more here then they were in our old neighborhood (although it's still not like it was when I was a kid) So my 4 year old plays outside quite often.

I do notice a lot of kids at the pool, so that is positive. But I rarely see kids at the park that aren't little ones with parents (at any time of the day). I work at a school and it sickens me every morning and afternoon to see the line of cars dropping kids off (these are kids that should be walkers). Very few kids actually "walk" or "ride their bike" to school anymore. It's very sad. Growing up no parents drove their children to school. You just never saw a parent there picking up their kid, we all walked or rode bikes.
No wonder we have so many overweight children.
post #34 of 122
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Originally Posted by HeidiAnn67 View Post
I do notice a lot of kids at the pool, so that is positive. But I rarely see kids at the park that aren't little ones with parents (at any time of the day). I work at a school and it sickens me every morning and afternoon to see the line of cars dropping kids off (these are kids that should be walkers). Very few kids actually "walk" or "ride their bike" to school anymore. It's very sad. Growing up no parents drove their children to school. You just never saw a parent there picking up their kid, we all walked or rode bikes.
No wonder we have so many overweight children.
I concur. I am out with my kids almost every segment of the day except for about 1-4 when we are napping or preparing for napping. The incidence of schoolkids playing is low. They are driven to school. They are at the pool supervised. I am worried about the kids whose parents do not have time to supervise them or choose not to so they sit inside or are institutionalized all summer.

I think you guys know where I am coming from.
post #35 of 122
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Originally Posted by Hannahsmummy View Post
In my personal experience, I believe that's true.
I live in Europe now though I was in the US before here.

Here there are kids out all the time and the parks are packed. I try to go to the park with my daughter when we visit my mother in the mid-west and there is no one around. I never even see anyone walking anywhere or even in their gardens! I am always surprised how scheduled everything in for kids in the US.
Huh -- in my area (of the US) the parks are always packed with kids, and kids play in their yards constantly.
post #36 of 122
Our elementary school is about a ten minute walk from our house. I'm quite sure that DS will be walking there himself from the age of 7 or so, there's no way DH will be driving him when he's 11. I remember riding my bike to school when I was 8, about a mile. I guess that would be considered neglect these days.: I do think kids need time on their own to cope and just interact with the environment --in fact, they are worried that kids will not appreciate nature much in the future, since fewer are encountering it on their own in anything less than a totally controlled setting.
post #37 of 122
My daugher is 10 and for this week, at that time of the day, she has already spent 7 hours dancing and swimming at a camp she is going to. They dance outside for the classes near shade so that the kids get some fresh air, and lunchtime is spent outside as well with some free play. She's way too tired to head to a park after that.

Then we'll be on vacation for 3 weeks after that where she'll get to play at the lake, beach and forest. So she won't be at the park then either.

And then she's back to school and she'll have martial arts two evenings per week and dancing two days per week so she won't be at the park in the evenings either. Although she does tend to play in her school park for about half an hour after school daily with some friends. We head out for a family walk outdoors in the late evenings until the weather gets too cold to do so (December or January).

And my baby isn't walking yet so we play outside in the backyard daily and she comes on our late evening family walk.

So, I also hope that kids aren't stuck inside playing on the computer or watching TV all day long, but I don't think that just because kids aren't filling the parks means they aren't doing physical exercise and getting outdoor time.
post #38 of 122
But I find that kids lives are so "scheduled" now a days sad too.
Kids don't know how to just be kids. They don't just get together and play kickball or wiffle ball with their friends. They don't just play, with no rules except the ones they made themselves. They don't just run around in the woods or play in a river, on their own, with just their friends. My middle son use to whine to me that he was bored and I'd tell him to "go play" he had no idea what to do. Kids don't know how to just play together without adults giving them directions.

I'm so happy the neighborhood I'm in now the kids do play together on their own, it's just not a daily thing. Maybe 2 times a week all the kids will be out playing together. The rest of the time they are all off at scheduled things (baseball, basketball, soccer, karate, etc).
post #39 of 122
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Originally Posted by mommy68 View Post
I'm not allowing my children out to play alone. I have two older boys that could do it but # 1 we live in the country on a gravel road in which we would have to drive 20 minutes to get to a park and # 2 even if I did live in a big neighborhood with easy access to a pool or park I would still go and supervise them. I'm not the type of parent to allow my children to go out alone with their friends and hang out. My DH and I both did this as children (because we weren't supervised by our parents) and we ended up being bad kids and worse teenagers. I won't teach my children that they need to supervise themselves from a young age like my parents did.

I totally agree that all kids need to be outdoors a lot and do it daily, weather permitting. I take my kids to the lake, hiking, biking, the park, out to play in our pool, and they go out alone and play in our woods in the back yard all days of the week. So I definitely agree they need to be outdoors more. But mine only do it supervised unless it's something they are doing on our own 10 acre piece of land.
Hmm... I was out romping around on my own from about the age of 5. I was rarely supervised. I was out all day every day. Sometimes I didn't come home at all until after dark. And I didn't turn out to be a trouble maker or a "bad" kid at all. My teenager years were spent getting straight A's and winning scholarships for college. I don't think playing outside really has anything to do with how you turn out later.
post #40 of 122
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Originally Posted by HeidiAnn67 View Post
But I find that kids lives are so "scheduled" now a days sad too.
Kids don't know how to just be kids. They don't just get together and play kickball or wiffle ball with their friends. They don't just play, with no rules except the ones they made themselves. They don't just run around in the woods or play in a river, on their own, with just their friends. My middle son use to whine to me that he was bored and I'd tell him to "go play" he had no idea what to do. Kids don't know how to just play together without adults giving them directions.
I agree with this 100%!!! The over scheduling makes me sick. I deal with this with my ex husband and my daughter. She doesn't know how to entertain herself or how to play at all. If she goes outside, she just stands there. She literally has no imagination or ideas of her own. It makes me sad thinking about how much fun I had doing that sort of thing when I was little.
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