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post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
Hello-

I need to get some bug spray, we have Burt's but, we are going to be traveling in a humid jungle area and I don't think Burt's is going to cut it.

Have you used DEET?? I have heard it is not good for you, then I read that it is okay to use (but I don't know who is sponsoring that)

My dd gets eaten alive by bugs!! So I need something that is going to be strong and although I mostly go with natural products, this one time (as long as it is safe) I am willing to buy the other.

Please let me know if it's safe to use

Thank you, Megan
post #2 of 11
I'd like to know the answer, too!
post #3 of 11
My opinion is that DEET is far less dangerous than malaria. Not sure where you're traveling, but if it's an area where malaria is endemic I wouldn't hesitate to use DEET along with other protective measures (long sleeved clothing, sleeping nets, stayin indoors in the evening, etc.) against mosquito bites.
post #4 of 11
can you get like a hat or something with netting all around it? i have seen clothing that is made for jungle type places with netting so bugs can't get in and bite but they are not hot and uncomfortable

from what i have read about deet it is best to spray it on clothes and not skin.
post #5 of 11
I can't remember the details but I researched this last summer as we were in Mexico for a month during mosquito season. I know that what I found out was bad enough to keep me and dd from using it and to suffer the bug bites, of which there were many. However, I wasn't too concerned about Malaria where we were. There are natural options that work almost as well (Buzz Away is one) and I found something natural in the Mexican pharmacies that worked if I sprayed it on every half hour or so, opposed to the DEET which will last much longer. I have also heard that garlic oil works but I never tried it.
post #6 of 11
Avon's Skin So Soft Bug Guard uses picaridin which is supposed to be an effective alternative to DEET. I've read about it in a few magazines who recommend it but have not used it myself. I think cutter makes one with that ingredient also. Here is an article from The Green Guide also:
Pest Control—Insect Repellent

THE SOLUTIONS

DEET-Free Repellents

Playing Frisbee on the beach may not be possible in long pants and hiking boots, and draining your local wetland is likely to put the bird population in a tizzy, so sometimes common sense insect barriers are not an option. If you need to use insect repellents, there are DEET-free, herbal products available. They are generally less effective than DEET-based repellents (and more expensive), but frequent reapplication might compensate for their short-lived action. To ward off biting bugs, they rely on botanical oils, such as citronella, soybean, cedar, verbena, pennyroyal, geranium, lavender, pine, cajuput, cinnamon, rosemary, basil, thyme, allspice, garlic, and peppermint. You may have to travel farther than your corner drugstore to find them, however, as most are available only at natural foods stores or by mail order. Unfortunately, we cannot vouch for their effectiveness, as only one, Bite Blocker, was tested in a June 2000 rating of insect repellents in Consumer Reports. Here is a sampling of least-toxic insect repellents:


Bite Blocker, made with soybean and coconut oils, was rated by Consumer Reports as effective against mosquitoes for 1 to 4 hours. It was the most effective DEET-free product that they tested. www.biteblocker.com


Green Ban, a combination of citronella, peppermint, soybean, cajuput, tea tree, lavender, bergamot, calendula, galbanum, and myrrh oils, was not tested by Consumer Reports but contains some of the same ingredients that were found to be effective in Bite Blocker. At natural foods stores.


All Terrain Herbal Armor is another option. It is made of a combination of citronella, peppermint, cedar, lemongrass, and geranium oils, in a base containing beeswax and soybean oil, among other ingredients. (This product contains the preservatives methylparaben and propylparaben, which some consumers might want to avoid, as they may act like estrogens.) www.allterrainco.com


Burt's Bees Lemongrass Insect Lotion contains oils of grapeseed, lemongrass, citronella, eucalyptus, and rosemary. www.burtsbees.com


Lakon Herbals Bygone Bugzz is made with oils of sunflower, eucalyptus, rosemary, birch, peppermint, geranium and lemongrass. www.lakonherbals.com


Buzz Away repellents contain cedarwood, citronella, peppermint, eucalyptus and lemongrass oils. www.quantumhealth.com


Cutter's Advanced long lasting insect repellents are picaridin-based. www.cutterinsectrepellent.com.


Bed netting permeated with pyrethroid insecticides, such as the Mombasa Defender Mosquito Net, is a useful shield that minimizes contact with skin and clothing. www.rei.com.

Some people might have allergic reactions even to natural plant oils, so keep an eye out for rashes and respiratory distress. Note that Avon's Skin So Soft did little to repel mosquitoes in Consumer Reports' test.

Prudent Use of DEET

Where insect-borne disease is of concern, the extremely rare health problems associated with DEET may be outweighed by its remarkable efficacy in preventing insect bites. If you decide that you wish to use DEET-containing repellents, here are a few risk-reducing tips:


Select a product formulated with 10% DEET or less, as recommended by the American Society of Pediatrics. Such levels have been shown to be effective in repelling mosquitoes yet minimize exposure levels. Some products containing low levels of DEET include Off! Skintastic and Cutter Just for Kids.


Avoid products that combine sunscreen with insect repellent. Sunscreen should be applied copiously and often, whereas reducing exposure to DEET requires applying as little as possible.


Do not apply to children's hands or face, to reduce potential contact with eyes or ingestion.


Do not apply on cuts, wounds, or sunburned skin.


Apply as little as possible, to exposed skin only. Be conservative about reapplication, following label directions regarding length of effectiveness.


Never use under clothing.


Wash product off with soap and water when coming indoors.

(for the entire article (there's a section on prevention etc) go here:http://www.thegreenguide.com/reports...ml?id=11&sec=2
post #7 of 11
I am struggling with this issue right now myself. We will be travelling in a POTENTIAL malaria zone. I keep reading conflicting reports about whether malaria is there or not. seems to me that's something that would be fairly obvious but apparently not.

We are going to have both. I'm scared of malaria but also scared of DEET.

Another option is that you can buy something called Permethrin (we found it at REI) and treat your clothes with it, then you let the clothes dry and wear them and they repel insects. It's a nasty chemical but since it dries into your clothes I am hazarding a guess that it is less likely to seep into your skin than DEET is. One application lasts for 6 weeks or 6 washings which is quite reasonable given the price.
post #8 of 11
I had read in a magazine recently about the dangers of DEEt but can't find that particular article on-line. I did find this one though and its pretty close to what the other one said.
http://www.amrita-essentials.com/DEE...repellents.jsp
I've pretty much stopped using anything with DEET in it, but my dh still insists on using it. I do have a recipe for a bug repellant using essential oils, I'm going to have to make it up and "accidently" lose the mosquito repellant
(BTW the recipe consists of tea tree oil, lavendar oil, cedarwood oil and citronella oil in a base of grapeseed oil, it works great, but you need to reapply often. Something you should never do with a DEET product)
post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the replys I think I am going to stick to Burt's and Buzz Away and if we get totally eaten alive the first day I will switch to the DEET I bought that listed 5% of it and just try to only spray it on our clothing and not very often.

We are traveling through the Yucatan so I don't think Maleria is going to be a huge concern.
post #10 of 11
When I read up about it a couple of years ago for my family I decided that as long as it didn't come into contact with our skin it was OK.

Ok as in its not good for us but then again all the yuckies a mosquito carries I would consider worse.
post #11 of 11
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Prudent Use of DEET

Where insect-borne disease is of concern, the extremely rare health problems associated with DEET may be outweighed by its remarkable efficacy in preventing insect bites. If you decide that you wish to use DEET-containing repellents, here are a few risk-reducing tips:


Select a product formulated with 10% DEET or less, as recommended by the American Society of Pediatrics. Such levels have been shown to be effective in repelling mosquitoes yet minimize exposure levels. Some products containing low levels of DEET include Off! Skintastic and Cutter Just for Kids.
I completely agree with this. I live in New Hampshire. Hardly the jungle but we have West Nile, EEE, Lyme Disease, Rocky Mtn Spotted Fever and I forget the others borne by mosquitos and ticks. We use DEET judiciously. Not only do we all get eaten alive otherwise but I strongly believe that the risk of using DEET far outweighs the risk of catching a insect-borne disease or just having a body covered with itchy welts.

I've used ALL of the natural EO ones and made my own. I've greased up and stank to high heaven and truly, honestly, coming from a crunchy herbalist, I use DEET. I haven't found any of the natural ones to be effective. Granted, I'm prone to bugbites... they love me, and maybe for people whom bugs dont' find so tasty they'd work, but not for me. I go to the herbalist conventions reeking of Off's Skintastic and I shower it off every night.
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