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post #61 of 149
I will never forget a demonstration I attended years ago. Local law enforcement laid out 25 or so guns. We were suppose to go down the line of guns on the table, without touching them, and write down if we thought they were real or fake. No one got all of them right out of 100+ people. If the average adult can't tell, we expect our children too? Hell, some of the police officers admitted that they didn't get all of them right when they partook in the exercise. Its a mixed message that children do not have the maturity to decipher. You can play with these guns but not with those because those are real?
post #62 of 149
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I will never forget a demonstration I attended years ago. Local law enforcement laid out 25 or so guns. We were suppose to go down the line of guns on the table, without touching them, and write down if we thought they were real or fake. No one got all of them right out of 100+ people. If the average adult can't tell, we expect our children too? Hell, some of the police officers admitted that they didn't get all of them right when they partook in the exercise. Its a mixed message that children do not have the maturity to decipher. You can play with these guns but not with those because those are real?
You know what, you are striking a remembrance in me here, I saw something on 20/20 about guns and basically the kids did the same thing with the guns whether they had safety training or not-when left alone, they all did the bang bang youre dead stuff. It was scary.
post #63 of 149
I am still curious about this. For those that allow toy guns in their house, do you also have (a) real gun (s)?
post #64 of 149
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Did you infer, from the post of mine that you quoted, that I would buy a toy gun for my child?
I inferred from the sarcastic and biting tone of your post in response to a person who expressed their feelings about guns that you would not have a problem with your child having a toy gun like the one linked in the OP. I don't know what kind of shopping you do.
post #65 of 149
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I am still curious about this. For those that allow toy guns in their house, do you also have (a) real gun (s)?

Ds is only 16 months so he does not have any toy guns. We do not have guns in the house and I feel strongly about that - I just don't see the need. We are city folk
Anyway, I don't think I would buy a toy gun but if he showed interest in them at some time I wouldn't forbid it. Better to let him explore then be done with it.

ETA although I would not buy him a toy gun I would not be too concerned over him fashioning one out of a stick or the like.
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post #67 of 149
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What I wrote was in response to the statement that the sole purpose of guns was killing/hurting. It isn't, when one uses them to shoot at inanimate objects for marksmanship practice, as demonstrated by the product around which this thread is centered.

My kids don't have toy guns, and I have no plans to purchase toy guys for them. If they someday become interested in riflery or hunting for food, it's entirely possible that I might provide them with actual guns.
So if someone gave them a gift of the toy gun shown in the OP would you allow them to keep it?
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post #69 of 149
Everytime the kids are invited to parties, we ask the parents if there is any type of toy that they prefer we not gift. IME, interestingly enough, one of the top gifts not allowed is toy guns. I think it is cool that we are asked that same question often as well.
Our families know not to gift toy guns to us so holidays and family birthday get togethers are generally not a problem.
post #70 of 149
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Yeah, I would. Not because I'm gung-ho about kids having the right to play with toy guns, but because I don't judge it to be so wildly inappropriate as to cause lasting psychological damage. In general, it's very unlikely that I'd take a gift away, even if it's something I'd never think to buy them myself.
fair enough. I don't think my inference was really that far off then. You would allow your child to have it.
post #71 of 149
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We don't allow toy guns in our home for any reason. Our decision is based primarily due to safety. Because we own real guns, we do not want our children to perceive any guns as toys. We are vigilant on teaching gun basic safety and to have toy guns in our home, or to allow them to play with a toy gun, contradicts our efforts and is dangerous and counterproductive.
To those who allow toy gun play, do you have real guns in your home?

Well the stove is dangerous and we still have a play kitchen, my kids still know is not ok to play with the real stove, I think most kids can see the diference between toys and the real stuff.
post #72 of 149
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Originally Posted by dallaschildren View Post
I am still curious about this. For those that allow toy guns in their house, do you also have (a) real gun (s)?
Yes, we do.
post #73 of 149
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Originally Posted by mcng View Post
I think most kids can see the diference between toys and the real stuff.
How? Toy guns are disarmingly realistic looking.
post #74 of 149
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Originally Posted by jdedmom View Post
Yes, we do.
With your DH being a police officer, how do you approach the difference in his service revolver versus the toy guns in your home, with your children?
post #75 of 149
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Originally Posted by ryansma View Post
I think you are underestimating kids here - they know reality v pretend pretty early on.
And if you think your child may not have it down all the more reason to TALK about it - not BAN guns or gunplay.
ITA In addition, my ds knows the people on tv are actors who wash off the fake blood and go home to their families.
post #76 of 149
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How? Toy guns are disarmingly realistic looking.
I have never seen a realistic toy gun. I'm pretty sure they are actually illegal though I don't doubt that they exist. I have seen writing on toy guns saying it is illegal to paint or otherwise alter them to look real. I don't know if real guns that look like toys exist. That would be a bigger problem in my opinion.
post #77 of 149
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How? Toy guns are disarmingly realistic looking.
Because you teach them. if you have guns in your house you should teach your children the dangers of them even if they are safely locked away.

And by this reasoning would you let your kids play with some very unreal looking guns lets say a hot pink laser shooting space gun?
post #78 of 149
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I have never seen a realistic toy gun. I'm pretty sure they are actually illegal though I don't doubt that they exist. I have seen writing on toy guns saying it is illegal to paint or otherwise alter them to look real. I don't know if real guns that look like toys exist. That would be a bigger problem in my opinion.
Toy guns are not illegal. A quick cursory search will bring an ample number of toy gun suppliers. Here's just one: http://www.kapowwe.com/Merchant2/mer...ategory_Code=1
Here are many other images. http://images.google.com/images?q=to...mages&ct=title
The wording you see used on the toys box...it's simply to protect the manufacturer from liability. The words mean nothing really. My point still is, if an adult cannot tell when a gun is real or fake, our children absolutely will not either. Whether it be fake that looks real or real that to the untrained eye looks fake, it doesn't really matter.
post #79 of 149
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Toy guns are not illegal.

I think she meant that real lookingn toy guns are illegal.

They are in NY.

Jenny
post #80 of 149
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Originally Posted by mcng View Post
Because you teach them. if you have guns in your house you should teach your children the dangers of them even if they are safely locked away.
Here is what I stated earlier:

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Originally Posted by dallaschildren View Post
We don't allow toy guns in our home for any reason. Our decision is based primarily due to safety. Because we own real guns, we do not want our children to perceive any guns as toys. We are vigilant on teaching gun basic safety and to have toy guns in our home, or to allow them to play with a toy gun, contradicts our efforts and is dangerous and counterproductive.
To those who allow toy gun play, do you have real guns in your home?
So I have already begun teaching them and for us, the first step in responsible gun ownership was no toy guns. We are teaching them in a multitude of ways. It is continuous education.

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And by this reasoning would you let your kids play with some very unreal looking guns lets say a hot pink laser shooting space gun?
No toy guns means no toy guns. And I really wish I had taken a picture of the guns used in the exercise I described earlier in this thread, but one of the guns that was indeed real, was pink, and had plastic jewels glued to it. It was confiscated in a drug bust. It looked so stupid, I voted fake without hesitation. And it wasn't.
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