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post #81 of 149
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Originally Posted by dallaschildren View Post
I am still curious about this. For those that allow toy guns in their house, do you also have (a) real gun (s)?
yes. My son has been gifted with a real gun (all shotguns and rifles) from my father since his first Christmas. He knows these guns are real, that they are to be used with his grandfather and uncles only. They are also equipped with trigger locks. He has many toy guns-hand guns, rifles, shot guns. They all have bright orange paint or plastic at the end of their barrels. But in his six years of life, he has been given much instruction about the many uses of guns and that are tools to be used safely-like saws, screwdrivers, knives, ets. He also knows that he should always assume all guns (outside our home) are real and loaded and are not to be touched and an adult is to be notified if he sees one. No problems. I don't worry about him occupying a cell block or shooting up his school at all. Also, his play is not restricted in regard to gun play. He is on the lookout for bears and tigers, elk and lion. It doesn't occur to him that he should be shooting people. Now as for home protection, I have a GLock hanfgun. HE knows where it is and knows what it's for. It's real and it's loaded and he has no interest in it. If he was, I would unload it and show it to him and show him how it works. All about safely exploring things he is interested in.
post #82 of 149
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Originally Posted by artgoddess View Post
yeah, still could never buy any form of gun or allow my DS to own a toy like that.
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My brothers were only ever allowed one gun, and that was short lived. My kids are not allowed to play with fake or real guns. Someday I will get them rifle safety lessons if they would like, but that's a *long* way off and only if they need it for work-police, etc., or for farming.

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Originally Posted by artgoddess View Post
So if someone gave them a gift of the toy gun shown in the OP would you allow them to keep it?
Never. I wouldn't donate it, either. It would be destroyed, no matter "how cool".
post #83 of 149
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Originally Posted by transformed View Post
I think she meant that real lookingn toy guns are illegal.

They are in NY.

Jenny
NY and a small number of other states have enacted legislation to control how toy guns are made. But they are not banned and most of the legislation is primitive at best. It is so broad in nature that any toy manufacturer would have no problem bypassing the restrictions.
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post #85 of 149
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Originally Posted by polka hop View Post
Ok, but - I just don't see how that is relevant to the question of whether or not guns are used for purposes other than killing/hurting living beings. I could completely forbid gun play, toy guns, shooting motions, etc. in my home, and that still wouldn't change the fact that people often use guns to shoot at cans or clay pigeons.
Well that's not what you asked. We just went back and forth several times about whether or not I was assuming you would allow your son to have a toy gun and if I was correct in that. My asking was very relevant to your response to me. I had nothing to do with the other post. :
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post #87 of 149
This isn't the prettiest site, but there is a mini "which is real" image at http://www.iranonline.com/avc/whichoneisatoy.html And there is a story from last year about NY legislation trying to stop peopl from making real guns look like toys at http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2045782&page=1

DH hunts for the table and I grew up in a rural community. We are pacifists, were vegetarian for years, and don't want to limit our dds imaginative play. The toy in the op looks like fun for college aged kids...

But I wouldn't allow my child to play with a toy gun. We will be teaching gun safety to our littles, and part of that (for us) is that guns are not toys. If dd wants to hunt with DH and his family that's fine...but she will do it in the proper atmosphere with respect and caution. If she wants to "play hunter" at home she can do it with a stick or her finger (which can transform into so many things, she isn't limited by a set/plastic shape) but NOT with a toy designed to mimc something we have told her is not to be touched/played with.

For us it's just a question of mixed messages. But again, I think that gun slinger toy would have been fun in college!
post #88 of 149
My dh grew up handling guns at an early age. He had a respect for them, and knew that, used inappropriately, they could cause alot of harm. If any of our children ever expresses an interest in guns, we will talk extensively (at an age appropriate level) about them, what they can do, an how we must have a respect for them. And we will show them a real gun, of course always unloaded and under very close supervision. However, since we have real guns in the house, we will not have any fake guns. I realize that the fake ones have the orange at the end of the barrel or some wording on them, but many of the differences are small enough that the guns look very real. We never want our children to 'play guns' with a toy, and then attemp to 'play guns' with a real gun. Of course our guns are locked, seperate from the ammo and we take every precaution to keep them out of reach. I just dont ever want my kids to come across a real gun 1.knowing that they were a taboo thing, increasing their curiosity without 2.knowing what a gun is capable of. I think it is like Captain Crunchy said, a gun is a weapon, but we can make a kitchen knife a weapon as well. It is NOT a gun who kills another human being, it is the PERSON holding the gun that does so. It's easy to point fingers at the gun, and say if they were banned we would have no problems. But following that, should we ban kitchen knives, sticks, rocks, and anything else that *could* be a weapon? No, better to educate and inform. Better to teach respect for fellow human beings. JMNSHO
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my stepdad is the biggest gun club member NRA fanatic out there. He has oodles of guns.

I was prepared for a battle when I told them no toy guns (we have a no barbie or bratz thing going on too).

I was STUNNED when he agreed with me.

He was like, "Yup, guns are not toys. I will take them out in the woods to shoot pictures till they are old enough to give up the camera for a gun."

To which I replied, "yeah, I get to decide when they are old enough."

that was the last convo we had about it.
post #91 of 149
I am curious for those that don't allow guns in your house at all or for play are you okay with this kind of toy guns?
Or this kind of sword play?
We don't allow toy guns in our house either, except for the stuff from the link I provided above.And we do have rifles in the house since my husband hunts.
post #92 of 149
DH grew up hunting (and eating) animals. He's not some psycho killer. I think the way you raise your kids around guns is more important than having or not having them.

Personally, I dislike guns. DH, out of his love for me, has not gone hunting since we married. However, he would go to the shooting range or something. He plans on raising our son knowing how to shot a gun. When I kid knows how to use something, they are far less likely to use it improperly. DH has two guns here at home, but I have no idea where. Neither is loaded, we don't even have ammo in the house.

DS is far too young now for any of it, but I'm sure by the time he's 10-12, he'll know some and be properly trained.
post #93 of 149
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Originally Posted by sonrisaa29 View Post
I am curious for those that don't allow guns in your house at all or for play are you okay with this kind of toy guns?
Or this kind of sword play?
We don't allow toy guns in our house either, except for the stuff from the link I provided above.And we do have rifles in the house since my husband hunts.
NO

But if their toys come with weapons, they usually are lost of trashed before they even make it back to our house (from family's at xmas). A cannon I don't worry about as much, because if my kid was able to make a cannon, I would probably be more impressed than upset.
post #94 of 149
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Originally Posted by dnw826 View Post
NO

But if their toys come with weapons, they usually are lost of trashed before they even make it back to our house (from family's at xmas). A cannon I don't worry about as much, because if my kid was able to make a cannon, I would probably be more impressed than upset.
I guess for us personally, the difference is the fact that a) its a cannon and I don't really know anyone who actually uses one b) the guns are the musket variety, and again totally not the same look of todays guns.

Most of the time my son uses a gun, its to "hunt" for wild animals. I think its extremely important for children to learn about gun safety.And I agree with whoever said that in rural areas thats why there are less accidental shootings.
post #95 of 149
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Originally Posted by bumperbee View Post
I don't get separating guns and swords, or bow and arrow... they're weapons, tools meant to injure game or opponents. Why in the world would one think that any particular weapon is any better or any worse when it comes to pretend play?
imo, the difference is that swords and arrows really mess you up. in movies, especially, we see tons of people getting shot, but no real repercussion. a previous poster wrote that she would rather have her kids shooting at each other saying "bang bang" with no physical harm, than have them smacking each other with sticks or pretend swords. again, imo, this is dead wrong. the kids are learning that they can use a gun and be totally detached; that, actually, no harm might come from it at all. so many times in the news we hear that a child shot someone simply because they were curious as to what would happen. i would so much rather have my kid get cracked in the face a few times with his friend's plastic light saber so he can appreciate it when i say "be careful; swords can hurt people".
post #96 of 149
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Originally Posted by swimswamswum View Post
I am not interested in raising fodder for the military or prison industrial complexes.
wooooooo!!!

nicely put, mama.
post #97 of 149
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Originally Posted by transformed View Post
I absolutley LOVE this

I am not real keen on toy guns, but dh and I disagree and so I love this toy because its not like random "bang bang youre dead" you actually shoot the gun at a log with plastic bottles on it and they fly up in the air and break in half when shot.

Its great. Ds has been playing with it all day long.

Jenny
It's not a PC toy, but it looks like good and safe fun.
post #98 of 149
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Originally Posted by caspian's mama View Post
she would rather have her kids shooting at each other saying "bang bang" with no physical harm, than have them smacking each other with sticks or pretend swords. again, imo, this is dead wrong. the kids are learning that they can use a gun and be totally detached; that, actually, no harm might come from it at all.
I must say that I don't think you give kids enough credit (or maybe my child is just exceptionally intelligent ). My son knows a toy gun cannot hurt people and real sticks can hurt people. He also knows that real guns can hurt and kill people. I'm much more concerned about my child really hurting someone than pretending to.
post #99 of 149
Someone asked if it is possible to raise a child over 5 without play guns. My sons (and daughter) are grown and we never had guns, so it is possible. I won't allow play guns or real guns - I just have never found either one necessary to my life. My sons handled guns when they were over 18, but still haven't had the desire to own one. So I think it is possible to raise them without letting them play guns or handle real ones. In am against hunting in general (I'm sure there are a few exceptions) and the only self defense motive I can see is if you live in a rural area with a danger of wild animals/protecting your lifestock. Otherwise - no guns for me - ever.
post #100 of 149
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Originally Posted by primjillie View Post
Someone asked if it is possible to raise a child over 5 without play guns. My sons (and daughter) are grown and we never had guns, so it is possible.
Of course it's possible. I was raised that way. That's like asking if it's possible to raise a child without coaco puffs cereal, if you as a parent don't give it to them it's possible,
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