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post #1501 of 1560
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Originally Posted by kangamitroo View Post
a big thank you to liquesce for recommending Ingrid Mattson's The Story of the Qur'an. It took a while because my library got it from outside the county, but it was well worth the wait. so well-written and I learned a lot (especially the later chapters, on the science of interpreting and the challenges of recording both Qur'an and hadith). I 'd like the masjid to have a copy in the small library so it is more accessible.
I'm glad you liked it.
post #1502 of 1560
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So, I just saw a Gap ad and they mention every holiday you can imagine... Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, and Solstice...but no Eid. Can we please please please get a Happy Eid from somebody?? Is that asking too much? Argh.
Did you hear about Best Buy? Apparently Best Buy wrote Happy Eid al-Adha in their flyers and they are getting a lot of flak from haters now.
post #1503 of 1560
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Did you hear about Best Buy? Apparently Best Buy wrote Happy Eid al-Adha in their flyers and they are getting a lot of flak from haters now.
I hadn't heard.... but just searched and saw some articles. Good for Best Buy. I just bought a digital video recorder from them...and am glad I did.
post #1504 of 1560
Wow, it makes me really angry that people are so upset about the best buy thing. You know, everytime I think about taking off my hijab, something like this comes up, and I feel the need to keep it on.

I just posted about it on facebook, I am guessing my evangelical family isn't going to be very happy with what I had to say.
post #1505 of 1560
Assalamu Alaikum Mamas:

Time has a story on "The Women of Islam." I thought it was well done in that it starts out by talking about how the Prophet was basically a feminist for his time, yet then points out how current practice does harm women. They also talk about cultural vs. Islam, etc.

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...185647,00.html

OK.. never mind, it's from 2001! But it was showing up on my top 10 most read articles on the right.. so I didn't expect that. :
post #1506 of 1560
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asalaamu alaikum wr wb

I hope everyone had a wonderful 'eid al-adha! Sorry for being MIA, I've been busy with adjusting to life here in Saudi Arabia.

post #1507 of 1560
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Salaamu aliakum

Spkg of Fair & Lovely...here in KSA Pond's has a VERY popular skin whitening line, in fact almost every single brand I was used to in the states has a skin-whitening line here, there are even foot creams which whiten up the feet and deo which whiten up the underarms.

It's creepy...all the commercials, everything! It's everywhere.



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As-salamu 'alaikom~

Did any of you ever notice that Al Hannah sells Fair and Lovely products? Nothing against whoever the proprietress might be, but I was a little bit taken aback when I saw that ... I realize it's a little hypocritical since it's Unilever, everything is Unilever, and I'm sure there are things in my own home from them, but I'm just really uncomfortable purchasing from a company that would directly promote that product line.
post #1508 of 1560
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asalaamu alaikum

Ohh winter clothing shopping! We're just about to do it ourselves...the temps have suddenly plummeted and gotten really cold here in the EP.

Actually what a lot of Saudi women do is wear a hoodie under their abayaah...that would actually be a very nice look with a jilbab. Or like you could wear a thicker style polar fleece jacket, one that is trim fitting under a lined jilbab. Or try a poncho over the jilbab.
I agree though, wearing a coat over a jilbab is very uncomfortable, thats why back in the US I would normally forgo jilbabs in the winter and opt for Khaleeji abayaat.

Or go for a khaleeji abayaat which isnt so bulky under a coat.

thou I do remember seeing Turkish and Syrian sisters wearing those long wool trench coats in the winter, whether they were winter jilbabs or just winter jackets they bought here, I could't tell.

Let us know what u decide!

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Originally Posted by UmmZaynab View Post
as-salaamu `alaykum all,

Well I have been buying new clothes this winter for the first time in a quite a few years so I have fashion on the brain.

I am tired of wearing a jilbab and then having to wear a winter coat over it. I hate how it looks and feels. I've been living in the South for so long that I have been able to get away with not wearing a coat at all most winters but in a few months IA we're moving back up north . So I'm thinking about splurging on this:

http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/sto...tn&cat4=504728

It's got a zip-out wool liner and it is ankle length and looks just like the jilbabs called "trench coats" in Syria which I have been wearing lately. I'm quite partial to the red one but then I could only wear a black scarf with it. If I got the khaki colored one I could wear more scarves with it, but it wouldn't be as fun IMO as having a cool red jilbab. I've been wearing black and khaki ones forever!

It is NOT cheap but hey, it's LL Bean which means if the zipper breaks in 10 or even 20 years they will either fix it or give me a new one.

Anybody else tried anything like this? I mean, substituting a really good, long winter coat for jilbabs?

wa s-salaam
post #1509 of 1560
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Originally Posted by UmmIbrahim View Post
asalaamu alaikum wr wb

I hope everyone had a wonderful 'eid al-adha! Sorry for being MIA, I've been busy with adjusting to life here in Saudi Arabia.

UmmIbrahim, i have been enjoying your blog. as someone new to the religion, i am hungry for learning and community wherever i can find it--real or virtual. the bismillah calligraphy on your site is so beautiful!
post #1510 of 1560
i'm having my first experience of gender segregation at the masjid that feels very uncomfortable. and disappointing. there is a speaker coming to give a khutbah at mid-day prayer, and i have to work. i thought i could come for his evening talk--but it is for the men's study group. i am sad that i will miss out on the speaker's insights and the opportunity for discussion.

i don't mind the separation for prayer, because we are in the same room and have enough space. the only time it has bothered me is when children are with one parent and then need the other--but can't find the other due to the separation. (and i like the idea of spouses praying side by side, tho my own dh is not religious; i know that happens in other homes.)

no one else to share this with. thank you for listening.
post #1511 of 1560
Assalamu Alaikum:

You might want to ask if they are taping any of the talks. At the various masjids I've attended, that's pretty typical for a guest speaker.. especially if s/he's supposed to be good.

You could also explain your predicament and ask if you can attend or listen in on the talk to the men.

It never hurts to ask....
post #1512 of 1560
Hi mamas, l would like some advice on introducing Islam to my children.

They are aged 3 and 1. I have tried talking to DS3 about Allah and explained that Allah is the creator of all but not sure what else to tell him. We live in a non-muslim community and although our faith is strong we ourselves have alot to learn. So there really isn't that oppurtunity of lead by example and let them ask questions iykwim. I have been reading little bits out of the Quran to see if there is anything l can tell my DS but l'm really not sure where to start.

What do you do with your children? I would like to allocate a night where we sit down as a family and talk about Islam and make it fun for all of us.
post #1513 of 1560
I just kind of bring up God randomly throughout our daily interactions. Living in the states, I don't use the word Allah as much as I use the word God, because I find it less inclusive and being a revert, it is simply more natural for me to use the word god. But anyway, I say thank god a lot, and we talk about why we are thankful to God for whatever it is.If dd sees something really pretty in nature we talk about how God made those things, etc. Even if I don't get in the five daily prayers (which almost never happens these days) we say bismillah and alhamdulillah at the appropriate times and talk about why. We are also starting to celebrate holidays in a bigger way around my house, I want them to understand that we have our own holidays and that there are good reasons for them.

I also LOVE the the "Horray for Baba Ali" (can be found on youtube) series of videos and Adam's world is really good too. My older kids will even watch Adam's world.

It is also kind of amazing how spiritual little kids are on their own. Mine have all definately had a very strong sense of a higher power from a very early age, evenw without much prompting, so build on that too.
post #1514 of 1560
Thread Starter 
asalaamu alaikum

personally I think just leading a religious Islamic lifestyle is usually enough because children see their parents praying, doing zikr and saying the names of Allah, dressing and acting modestly and not engaging in haraam activities and they learn and absorb.

My son is almost 3 and he "play" prays beside us, says the azan (not the real words, but it has the same rhythm) and being in KSA hasnt dont anything to bring this about, he was like this in the USA. Only diff is here he hears the azan and says "it's time for mama/baba to pray...go pray"...

So just being a practicing Muslim really helps.

en'shallah we'll start teaching him Quraan in a yr or so.



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Originally Posted by Dizzie View Post
Hi mamas, l would like some advice on introducing Islam to my children.

They are aged 3 and 1. I have tried talking to DS3 about Allah and explained that Allah is the creator of all but not sure what else to tell him. We live in a non-muslim community and although our faith is strong we ourselves have alot to learn. So there really isn't that oppurtunity of lead by example and let them ask questions iykwim. I have been reading little bits out of the Quran to see if there is anything l can tell my DS but l'm really not sure where to start.

What do you do with your children? I would like to allocate a night where we sit down as a family and talk about Islam and make it fun for all of us.
post #1515 of 1560
We pray... and starting around 1-1/2 or so, the kids started imitating us.

We try and go to Jummah prayer.. and take whomever we can with us.

We have the "Pray with Zaky" series from Australia.... some Adams World... as well as Arabian Sinbad for Arabic. We also have an Arabic "computer"/toy.

We have some Muslim books... alphabet, numbers, "I can say Bismillah", "Muslim Child", "My Mum is a Wonder", etc.

DS1 attended Sunday school at the Islamic Center and loved it. Insha'Allah, the others will when they're old enough.

Insha'Allah, maybe next year, we'll start a family haliqah. Right now, I'm trying to adapt a "5 minute devotions for Families" book for Muslims (just replacing Bible quotes with Qur'an and Ahadith.
post #1516 of 1560
Salaam alaikum everyone. I don't have time to get in on the topic of the moment--maybe tonight inshaAllah

but if those of you with children in public school in the US or any other predominantly non-Muslim place would come and share your thoughts on my thread regarding what you let your kids do in school at this time of year.........I'd appreciate it! Thanks
post #1517 of 1560
Wa'alaikum Assalam Peaceful Mama:

DS1 and DS2 are both in public schools. This is our first year in FL schools, prior we were in Brooklyn/NYC...which was, as you can imagine, much more diverse... and thus, less-likely to be Christmas focused.

DS2 participated in his school's Nutcracker field trip and production.

I know they'll be doing some snowman crafts... and I believe DS1 is making a reindeer t-shirt. I debated just how much I wanted to get involved... and after talking to quite a few Moms I know who've raised both Muslim and Jewish kids here (who are still practicing...and alhamdullilah their girls still wearing hijab now in college)... I've decided to not make a big deal about any school activities... BUT...to talk about things when they get home.

So...for example... the Reindeer shirt... we may look up actual reindeer and talk about them. (Finnish Reindeer, not Santa's.) My kids also know the story of Santa, which doesn't bug me--as they're also quite well aware that we're Muslim and we don't celebrate Christmas, but we sure think that Prophet Isa is great. As they get older, we'll talk about how our views on Isa are similar to Christians, and how they differ.

Regarding Hanukkah, I have no problem with my kids knowing the story about another one of Allah's (swt) miracles. Just doesn't phase me. I may use it as a jumping off point to talk about other miracles.. or even ways that Allah(swt) is blessing us right now. They can play with dreidels and eat Hanukkah gelt to their hearts' content as far as I'm concerned.

I thought about pulling them out, or talking to the teacher... but I know a few kids whose parents did that... and they hated being singled out like that. They knew they didn't celebrate Christmas or Hanukkah or whatever... but still wanted to do the activities with their classmates. I don't think it did anything to increase their love of their parent's faith at all or strengthen it.

That's my approach for now... anyway. I figure by talking now... gently, and without "ruining their fun"... I may get more.
post #1518 of 1560

Salaat with a newborn

I have been absent from this tribe, going through pregnancy and spiritual turmoil. Now my baby is 3 months and I am getting back to salaat. My challenge now is that I carry my babe with me or wear her a lot. She is starting to be okay with staying on the bed or floor alone sometimes, but not on any schedule. If you are an ap mother, how did you prioritize and accomplish prayer with a newborn? practical tips are what i need. Thank you for any wisdom you can share!
post #1519 of 1560
Assalamu Alaikum SkyandLavendar:

Have you tried praying with your baby in a moby or other sling? I know I used to do that with all of my kids when they were that young. Sajdah was a little weird.... because I didn't want to scrunch them... but I figured that Allah(swt) knew I was doing my best... so didn't fret too much about it. Another thing I used to do was to simply put the baby down on my prayer rug... or put the bouncy chair near the prayer rug.

When they got a little older, I had special toys I saved for salat or going to the masjid.. and then I'd just scatter those toys near them at the top of my prayer rug while I prayed.

Hope this helps!
post #1520 of 1560
I like your idea UmSami. You are right, we have the responsibility to teach them their religion at home. If coloring a reindeer pic or counting pictures of Santa or something dumb is all it takes to "convert" my children, then I'm doing something wrong.

I am going to talk about things with DH more. He shares your view, I think. I told him we went to ds's "kindergarten school's" winter party, and the kids frosted green colored frosting on upside-down ice cream cones and used candy for decorations to make 'trees.' I said I personally did not see anything wrong with an activity like that, and he agreed--exact words were "We don't live in isolation, let them enjoy their fun."

I can totally see using the activities as a learning point--that reindeer are actual deer, for example. The actual historical story of Santa Claus. The fact that Christmas, for Christians, is a celebration of the birth of Prophet Isa, and why we as Muslims do not celebrate the birthdays of prophets.

I have discussed with DH the idea of starting a time on the weekends where we sit as a family and study something Islamic. The first lesson (next week I guess inshaAllah) may very well be a discussion on what Christmas is and why we don't celebrate it. I know we will discuss this often, the kids are 5, 3 next month, and 12 months.

**THIS** I think is a key in how to raise children who are confident in who they are and what they believe, by TEACHING them the reasons we do what we do, rather than just telling them it is not what we do and demanding that they accept that.
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