I'm about to get a tad long-winded and I apologize, but it is so important for parents to learn the truth about drugs as much as possible so we can accurately prepare our children for these issues.http://www.drugwatch.org/Alcohol%20&...ay%20Drugs.htm
|Dr. John Slade reported at the 1989 National Conference on Nicotine Dependence in San Diego, California, that tobacco smoking teaches drug acquisition skills to the youth. He said, "For the most part, they're illegal for kids to buy. In addition, kids who smoke get firsthand experience in using a substance to adjust emotional states." Slade reports that tobacco use teaches drug-taking skills and that tobacco use promotes an attitude that fosters other drug taking behaviors.
Compounding the problem is the relative ease with which youth can access alcohol and tobacco. Both drugs are widely available, inexpensive and heavily marketed, making them especially attractive to youth, who are the most price-sensitive consumer age group.
Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding your post in any way:
Originally Posted by MarineWife
I'm certainly no experts on drugs in general or MJ specifically. I can only comment on my own experiences......
......I had tried cigs much younger and was what I'd consider a regular smoker by the time I was 10, buying my own when I could. When I was partying with my friends after trying MJ for the first time there was only MJ and alcohol available until I was a much older teen, as far as I was aware. I can say that the feeling that I got from MJ was much different and much more intense than the feeling I got from from nicotine or caffiene. I would not put those in the same class as MJ. Nicotine and caffiene do not affect motor skills, judgement and reasoning the way that MJ does, at least not for me. We could, if we wanted, classify everything that we ingest and inhale as a drug since the broadest definition is any substance that causes a chemical reaction in the body. Water does that.
I'm not seeing anywhere in your experiences, as you have related them here, that MJ was a gateway to using other drugs. Even folks who use legalistic terms to define "drugs" admit that tobacco is one and you tried that well before MJ. Regardless of how it made you feel, nicotine is a potent and addictive drug that alters the way your brain works.
Tobacco, alcohol, and caffeine have all been illegal before in different places and times in history because of their addictive and mind-altering properties. All have been used specifically *for* their mind-altering effects. I have friends who seriously abused Mountain Dew during college so they could cram for exams and party all night between exams. I've been quite high and incoherent on caffeine before, myself... working at Starbucks and having to taste all the different types of drinks in two days will do that, I guess... I don't use caffeine often and apparently it affects me a lot when I do.
Also I'm curious (and amused and joking a bit here to hopefully lighten the mood
. You seem to be saying that, by your definition, water could be the real gateway drug? Dh considers that breastmilk is much more likely to be the gateway drug by your definition
And since light causes chemical reactions in our eyes then we're on drugs all the time! (that last bit was from dh as well
: he's a nerd
I couldn't find your definition anywhere though...http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?drug
|Main Entry: drug
Etymology: Middle English drogge
1 a obsolete : a substance used in dyeing or chemical operations b : a substance used as a medication or in the preparation of medication c according to the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (1) : a substance recognized in an official pharmacopoeia or formulary (2) : a substance intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease (3) : a substance other than food intended to affect the structure or function of the body (4) : a substance intended for use as a component of a medicine but not a device or a component, part, or accessory of a device
2 : a commodity that is not salable or for which there is no demand -- used in the phrase drug on the market
3 : something and often an illegal substance that causes addiction, habituation, or a marked change in consciousness
I'm not continuing this to get into an argument or to belittle anyone's experiences. I just hate to see MJ take all the blame for being a "gateway drug" when the majority of people who go on to use hard drugs (or even MJ itself!) used tobacco or alcohol first. This is important information that tends to get lost in the "OMG, MJ is a gateway drug and is illegal and horrible and evil" shpiel that gets brought into these discussions.I have a friend who is a heroin junky *because* she was told that MJ was terrible and horrible and "just as bad as heroin" (which I'm certain none of you will tell your children 'cause that's obviously a lie). Some of her friends tried MJ and she saw that nothing terrible happened to them so she tried it too. At that point she'd been smoking cigarettes and drinking for several years (her father was an alcoholic - AND a cop...).
Nothing terrible happened to her when she tried MJ. She then assumed that since she'd been lied to about MJ then everything she was told about all the harder drugs must have been a lie as well. So she went on to try everything else too. You could say that MJ was her gateway to harder drugs since she probably would never have tried harder drugs had she not tried MJ. However, she would also have not tried the harder drugs had she tried MJ, but been told the TRUTH about MJ vs heroin/cocaine/crack/etc.
This is just one of the reasons why I think knowing the truth, as parents, is so important. My friend is partly the reason why I studied up on this so much. I don't want my children (or anyone else's either) to end up like her due to lack of knowledge... It's a terribly hard issue
It's a fascinating one to study in-depth also
love and peace.