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post #21 of 30
This is long but it may be of use to someone out there...

My 5 month old son has eczema and while it's very mild now it did flair quite badly when he was around 2 months old. His face, ears, scalp, eyes, and elbows had big, itchy, sometimes oozing patches. I could see where it was also spreading around his belly and a bit on his legs and hands...I was very distraught over this and wanted to try to find some kind of relief without using the steroids my pediatrician suggested.

I ended up taking my son to a local acupuncturist who is also trained and experienced in a Japanese form of needle-less, pressure point bodywork called "Sho-ni-shin". I took my son in once a week for 6 weeks and gave him the Chinese prescription herbs that were recommended with the treatment. I asked if there were any herbs that I could use as a compress and was given an herbal mix that I could put in his bath water to help dry up his oozing patches.

My son's skin improved dramatically with the acupuncture and herbs. I'd say 90% of the horrible, persistant eczema is gone. He still has some small dime-sized spots on his ears and a quarter-sized spot on his forehead.

I'm so pleased with the results of this treatment and would just like to tell others that if they are open to the idea, they should consider finding an acupuncturist who is trained in Sho-ni-shin and who also has experience treating infants and kids. Children's bodies respond very well to acupuncture so it may be worth a try if you've exhausted all other avenues...(now if a child is covered from head to toe with eczema - with no healthy skin to work on - then this treatment may not be an option... but I'm not exactly sure).

Another resource I found very helpful is the National Jewish Hospital's web site. National Jewish is the #1 respiratory hospital in the US (Denver) and they have a department that specializes in pediatric eczema and allergies. The site lists a toll free number that people can call to talk to the pediatric nurses about their children's eczema. I called this number and found the nurses very supportive and knowledgeable. I know the hospital's eczema clinic teaches and recommends wet/dry wraps for eczema...

I live in Colorado and have taken my son to National Jewish for allergy testing...I was given some samples of the Atopiclair that is mentioned in the above posts (the pediatric doctor who saw my son was the leading doctor in the study of Atopiclair and eczema) I have not used any of the samples though. I was told by the doctor that the medicine is effective for treating mild to moderate eczema and that it is very expensive - $100.00 for 100ml tube. I read online that it contains shea butter and I've seen general posts online that some people can react to this?

My routine with my son:
*chinese herbs every day given orally
*Florababy brand probiotics given once a day
*bathe 2-3 times a day, 20 min, no soaps, pat dry
*moisturize within 3 minutes of getting out of tub. i slather on pure grapeseed oil all over body except scalp.
*moisturize all over, including scalp, with Nelson's brand Calendula cream. this stuff has worked great with my son - takes away redness, relieves itch, not greasy at all. i use it throughout the day as needed.
*dye and fragrance free laundry soap, 2nd rinse cycle.
*with the extreme flair-up i also used pure aloe vera to help soothe skin. haven't needed to use it at all since acupuncture.
post #22 of 30
My DD's is completely corn-intolerance. No corn = no eczema. I don't put anything on it, it just goes away about 4-5 days after she steals some food of my other kids, who can have corn. I did an elimination diet with her to find out all her triggers. And yes, she reacts to zucchini, so it's not impossible.
post #23 of 30
Also, the cats have to be out of the house at least 2-3 months before you can see results. My DH (cat-induced asthma) went to my brother's housewarming party and there hadn't been a cat in the house for 2 months, but there were rugs, and DH had to use an emergency inhaler within the first half hour of being there. So it will take a while to determine if that was causing it. How long have the cats been gone, and are there still carpets and upholstered furniture that could still have the cat hair on it?
post #24 of 30
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Originally Posted by loriforeman View Post

use antihistamines to control the itching.
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What type?
post #25 of 30
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post #26 of 30
I didnt have much success with atopiclair, but I think because there was still dairy in my ds system. Now we are dairy free and he stays clear. When dairy has managed to get in to me, he shows it. We're just recovering from a flare up from Hylands teething tablets (lactose base). That being said, when he gets bad from dairy, I do use hydrocortisone. It is only once in a while, other wise he itches like a maniac, and it gets worse. I try benadryl, which helps after a while, but not as quickly. We are pretty on top of things, so our slip ups only happen once in a blue moon.
post #27 of 30
I posted a question about DD's eczema on LWAB recently and got some great suggestions, (it's well worth reading) one of which was Neem Oil. Apparently it has natural steroid properties. I haven't tried it yet as my health food store didn't have it but it's on order
post #28 of 30
WOW!!! This is a great post with SO much useful tips
Just an FYI Atopiclair has shea nut in it so beware and Elidel has a black box warning on it for the past 4 years from the FDA because it can cause cancer.
post #29 of 30
My son is almost 2 1/2 and just a couple of months ago he developed eczema and we use several things

no soap baths
tea tree oil diluted in olive oil after his bath each night and every morning - it helps; rub it on the eczema
when he scratches too much and the spot gets infected we apply a thick layer or manuca honey and then put a bandage over it over night - the inflammation is GONE by morning; absolutely gone
also Waleda skin food or Waleda baby cream - on the eczema and all over his body; it helps

we are still in the process of determining the cause . the tea tree oil and manuca honney get rid of the eczema but then one of us (he is BF) eats the wrong thing and we are back to square one. But we have THE BEST Nurse Practitioner and she is EXTREMELY knowledgeable on the allergy topic so we are blessed to have met her. If you are on the Monterey Peninsula I will give you her number.

also check out the book "Is this your child?" by Doris Rapp M.D.

try to avoid the steroids...too many side effects...try manuca and tea tree oil
post #30 of 30
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Originally Posted by karin95 View Post
I didn't list everything we do, but your list is the one I would have written!

*We give him 2 20-minute baths a day. No soap. Fresh washcloth and towel for each bath.
*Goop him up with Vanicream & cortisone on the hot spots. (the vanicream lotion on his face, alternating with cortisone).
*We were wet wrapping him (for his arms and legs and chest) for a few weeks and now have stopped.
*We use a very "clean" detergent and it doesn't seem to aggrevate him.
*We are moving our cats to my MILs house and then we'll do a deep cleaning to get rid of as much dander as possible.
*He sleeps in an Amby hammock (much of the time) and we change his sheet on that daily, pretty much.
*We swaddle him to sleep, still at 7 month old, so he won't scratch in his sleep.
*All cotton clothing.

And we LOVE LOVE LOVE kidswithfoodallergies.com. It's been a lifesaver for us, truly.

Our TED includes:
Teff (grain)
nutritional yeast
olive oil
sea salt
zucchini
pears

We just added RICE this weekend (gave it to him directly and for us). So far so good *knocks on wood*.

I would just like to know if other people have cleared up bad eczema without steroids. We're afraid not to use them, because we just can't handle it getting back to being as bad as it was.
would you post your porridge recipe? sounds yummy!
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