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post #1 of 24
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DS#2 (9 yrs old) wanted tie shoes this year, dh agreed on the condition that he learn to tie them (something he's never done.) In the past we've simply bought shoes that have velcro or elastic, because fighting with DS is not worth it to me.

Any good resources for teaching ds to tie his shoes? he's the one child we have in PS this year, so he must learn to do it himself.
post #2 of 24
how about teaching him yourself?? We recently purchased a Klutz book of knots because my son loves tying knots...maybe that book would make it fun?

Good luck!
post #3 of 24
I found that when my kids wanted to learn to tie their shoes, they learned in about a day. You show them, they repeat it w/ reminders until they have it.
post #4 of 24
I'm thinking that at 9 years old (unless he has some kind of condition that I am not aware of) he 'should' be able to learn to tie his shoes in a day if he REALLY wants tie shoes. I agree with your DH, and I would probably teach him on a couple of pairs at home and then make him show me how he ties them at the store.
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I found that when my kids wanted to learn to tie their shoes, they learned in about a day. You show them, they repeat it w/ reminders until they have it.
This is exactly what just happened 2 days ago with my youngest. We just bought new shoes and haven't gotten to the store that sells bungie laces yet, so I've been tying them for him for a few days. Yesterday, he asked to learn and I sat behind him, he took the laces in his hands and I put my hands over his as we walked through the "make a loop, wrap around, go through the hole" steps a few times, then he tried a few times on his own with verbal prompts before being able to do it himself.


skaterbabs, does your son want to learn to tie, or is it that he wants a particular style of shoe? My kids used those bungie laces for "tie" shoes before they were able to tie themselves (truth be told, I have a pair on MY sneakers.)
post #6 of 24
I made a laminated sheet with pictures from Ian's Shoelace Site, and paired it on a tray with a piece of plain cardboard holepunched for the laces, and a pair of wide blue and yellow laces.
post #7 of 24
With ds, I used a jump rope and we practiced tying a bow around a tree-- it was much easier to see and both use our hands together. He learned after a few days.
post #8 of 24
It is easier to teach them to tie their shoes if they are not facing you. I think it is a mistake a lot of people make and they sit there and wonder why the kids is tying them backwards.
post #9 of 24
This is no help whatsoever, but I just thought I'd throw this observation out. My ds was a very late shoelace-tyer (around age 9 1/2) but an exceedingly early two-wheeler rider (age 3) and we noticed a similar pattern amongst some of the kids we know. So we did a "study" a year or so ago where we polled people on the age their kids learned these two tasks. We discovered a clear negative correlation between the two. If you learned to tie shoelaces early, chances are you'd be closer to 8 or 9 before you learned to ride a two-wheeler, whereas if you ditched your training wheels at age 3 or 4, chances were you'd be still battling with shoelaces at age 8 or 9. And there were lots of kids who learned both skills at about age 5 1/2. We plotted the data on a scatter-graph and used linear regression to plot the line of best fit.

Miranda
post #10 of 24
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If you learned to tie shoelaces early, chances are you'd be closer to 8 or 9 before you learned to ride a two-wheeler, whereas if you ditched your training wheels at age 3 or 4, chances were you'd be still battling with shoelaces at age 8 or 9. And there were lots of kids who learned both skills at about age 5 1/2. We plotted the data on a scatter-graph and used linear regression to plot the line of best fit.

Miranda
My son would then be your outlier (rode 2 wo/ training wheels at 3yo and tied shoes at 5 1/2 -- but he was motivated by a pair of cobalt blue sneakers!)
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post #12 of 24
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skaterbabs, does your son want to learn to tie, or is it that he wants a particular style of shoe? My kids used those bungie laces for "tie" shoes before they were able to tie themselves (truth be told, I have a pair on MY sneakers.)
He wanted the "camo" skateboard shoes. *eyeroll* Still has no interest in actually tying them. We'll end up with the bungee laces eventually (he has HFA) but he CAN and just doesn't find it important enough to pay attention.

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I made a laminated sheet with pictures from Ian's Shoelace Site, and paired it on a tray with a piece of plain cardboard holepunched for the laces, and a pair of wide blue and yellow laces.

Thanks for the link, I'll have to try that!
post #13 of 24
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My outlier counters your outlier. =P Ds is about to turn 9 and can do neither of these tasks.
Yes, so maybe our kids will cancel out to become the average ;-)

I was thinking that it will be interesting to see if the correlation holds true for my daughter (who just figured out pedaling a bike at almost 5yo, but still won't even try the bike with training wheels and has only mild interest in shoe tying).

I am wondering if this is a gross motor vs. fine motor thing?
post #14 of 24
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Originally Posted by moominmamma View Post
This is no help whatsoever, but I just thought I'd throw this observation out. My ds was a very late shoelace-tyer (around age 9 1/2) but an exceedingly early two-wheeler rider (age 3) and we noticed a similar pattern amongst some of the kids we know. So we did a "study" a year or so ago where we polled people on the age their kids learned these two tasks. We discovered a clear negative correlation between the two. If you learned to tie shoelaces early, chances are you'd be closer to 8 or 9 before you learned to ride a two-wheeler, whereas if you ditched your training wheels at age 3 or 4, chances were you'd be still battling with shoelaces at age 8 or 9. And there were lots of kids who learned both skills at about age 5 1/2. We plotted the data on a scatter-graph and used linear regression to plot the line of best fit.

Miranda
This is interesting. I'll throw in our stats for the fun of it. My 2 oldest DDs each learned to tie their shoes around 4.5 after asking me out of the blue to show them, but they had NO interest in learning to ride their bikes w/out training wheels until I took them off and left them no other option at ages 7 and 9. They learned in a week since it took a couple days for them to want to learn to ride after I took the T wheels off. (My eldest was ticked for a couple days.)

My youngest DD will be 5 in nine days, and she has yet to ask about tying shoes. She is a much stronger biker than her older sisters at age 5, but they didn't have older siblings to emulate like she does. (I say they b/c they are only 18 mos apart, and my middle DD is the more physically active one. They sort of balance out.)
post #15 of 24
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My outlier counters your outlier. =P Ds is about to turn 9 and can do neither of these tasks.
My outlier cancels out yours. My daughter learned to ride a bike and tie her shoes 50% (she's still working on luck) at age 3. She seldom wears tie shoes -- mostly flip flops.
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He has been skateboarding since he was like 3 (like ramps and tricks and stuff), but can't keep a bike up.
How is he with a razor scooter? My kids learned to keep one of those up and then the bike. Same balance mechanism.
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post #17 of 24
I love this conversation - only at MDC (and probably only in homeschooling) do I hear Mamas bragging about how slow/inept/uncoordinated their kids are!!

By the way, Dd tied early and painlessly, and rode a bike late and fairly clumsily. ElderSon did everything early. YoungSon rode a bike early, still can't tie his shoes at 11.
post #18 of 24
DS is 7 (in Sept) and can't ride a bike or tie his shoes. But we both scooter and today did a big 3 hour ride!
post #19 of 24

HI, Loop Laces would work!

This is my product, Loop Laces. They are prelooped so they are simple to tie. They would be a huge help!
post #20 of 24
That's fascinating... but I'm not sure how well the correlation holds. I didn't learn to ride a two wheeler until I was ten, but I never *had* one before that. Does it count if I never had the opportunity to learn? I did tie shoes pretty early, though, around three.

BeanBean will be five soon and he can't do either.
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