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Looks like I may not get my UC afterall...5th section...maybe.

post #1 of 87
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*sigh*

So, there was some conflicting info. on my notes from last time. I was cleaning my closet out last night & found all my paperwork, hadn't read it in a while so I did. I had FORGOTTEN about some of the things in it, namely in ONE part it says I have a classical internal cut. HOWEVER in other places it says "low transverse." So solor me confused, I called my OB this AM. DEFINATELY a vertical cut. So, essentialy, my uterus is shredded. At this time I am NOT comfortable VBACing with a classical cut. I'm not ABOUT to call an OB & get "going" with the section though. I have a LOT of research to do. I know women HAVE VBACed with a classical cut. But, with the info. I have now, I am not alright doing it. Especially with 4 sections total. *sigh* A live baby beats the perfect birth every time. But you have NO idea how excited I was about it all. : Just venting mostly. I am glad I have time on my side, I WILL make an educated decision this time.
If anyone has any good info. at their fingertips, don't be shy about sharing! :

I'm bummed. Really. You have no idea what I've been through emotionally to get here. Blah.
post #2 of 87
I am so bummed for you, too, but I really believe that you are making the right choice. I know it hurts and it is disappointing, and I truly wish you could have had the birth experience that you wanted. I know you so wanted your UC. *hugs*

I think a UBAC is out of the question, but would you attempt a VBAC in the hospital? I understand if that's out of the question for you, too, certainly, given the risks with that kind of incision.

I think the best thing you can do if you have decided upon a C-section is to try to plan ahead to make it as positive of an experience as possible. There are a lot of ways you can do that. It doesn't have to be all doom and gloom. It's risky, and it's not the same...but it doesn't have to be awful.

I definitely agree with your decision to do your research first. You don't have to decide right now. There are women who have VBAC'd with that type of incision, even UBAC'd. They were taking a risk, and you have to decide which one you feel is higher: repeat C-section or VBAC. If you tried a VBAC I would be cheering you on, hoping and praying for you, trying to help you make it as safe as possible. And if you decide upon a C-section I would support you on that, too, and try to help you make your Cesarean birth a good experience.
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Originally Posted by moonfirefaery View Post
I am so bummed for you, too, but I really believe that you are making the right choice. I know it hurts and it is disappointing, and I truly wish you could have had the birth experience that you wanted. I know you so wanted your UC. *hugs*

I think a UBAC is out of the question, but would you attempt a VBAC in the hospital? I understand if that's out of the question for you, too, certainly, given the risks with that kind of incision.

I think the best thing you can do if you have decided upon a C-section is to try to plan ahead to make it as positive of an experience as possible. There are a lot of ways you can do that. It doesn't have to be all doom and gloom. It's risky, and it's not the same...but it doesn't have to be awful.

I definitely agree with your decision to do your research first. You don't have to decide right now. There are women who have VBAC'd with that type of incision, even UBAC'd. They were taking a risk, and you have to decide which one you feel is higher: repeat C-section or VBAC. If you tried a VBAC I would be cheering you on, hoping and praying for you, trying to help you make it as safe as possible. And if you decide upon a C-section I would support you on that, too, and try to help you make your Cesarean birth a good experience.
Thanks! No way, no how will I have a VBAC in the hospital. I would take the section upon entry. It's 100% inevitable, why suffer for no reason? I will only VBAC home. I KNOW that. The hospital here scares me nearly to tears, I'm not kidding. And that's saying alot. If I were still in NC I'd swallow hard & just deal, the hospital went above and beyond and gets a gold star for sure, they were terrific. I have heard such dreadful things here. I am also scared no OB will TAKE me! I've called around, it's BAD, really bad. I'm so upset, I just feel like I am "starting over." Very confused. I don't want this. Honestly, as bad as it sounds...I wouldn't have gotten pregnant if I knew this. And I SHOULD have, it's right there on the paper!
post #4 of 87
I can't imagine there's a hospital in the country that would willingly allow a VBAC after so many sections and a vertical incision. I'm sorry you can't UC. I hope you can find an OB who will make your cesarean BIRTH as gentle and natural as possible.
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I can't imagine there's a hospital in the country that would willingly allow a VBAC after so many sections and a vertical incision.
Exactley!

And I am in SE GA, it's SO hostile here - birthwise, VBACwise - I'm basically screwed.
post #6 of 87
Oh, Marie. I'm so sorry.

Keep reading, keep researching. If you ed up laboring at home and then deciding to head to a hospital, that's ok. Whatever decision you come to will be ok. I'm always here.
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Can you find a provider who will do the c/s in a more mother-friendly way? I read an article a couple of years ago about c/s done in France I think where they were doing dimmer lights, put baby immediately on mama's tummy, and did a lot of other mother- and baby-friendly things. Can you work on that, to improve the experience as much as possible? s I'm so sorry you can't have your VBAC, but I hope you can make the c/s bearable.
post #8 of 87
That's very true. Even if she could find an ob to accept her as a VBAC patient, the odds would be against her, and they would probably push a C-section for any little reason. Trying to make the best of a Cesarean is probably the best you can do. "Birthing from Within" has some tips on making a Cesarean birth better.
post #9 of 87
I couldn't read and not offer
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That's very true. Even if she could find an ob to accept her as a VBAC patient, the odds would be against her, and they would probably push a C-section for any little reason. Trying to make the best of a Cesarean is probably the best you can do. "Birthing from Within" has some tips on making a Cesarean birth better.
That's ANOTHER issue there.
I don't think any OB will TAKE me. I'm not "going with the flow" just to have a provider. I will still be refusing EVERYTHING. I'll get dropped fast. And, no, compromising is not an option. I'll get the section, no doubt, but prenatal care? Maybe not.
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I couldn't read and not offer
Thanks.
post #12 of 87
I also just wanted to share with you a

It sounds as if you are making a wise and informed decision, even if it's not your dream birth.
post #13 of 87
I'm so sorry. No advice, I'd just be reiterating what others have said. I'd like to tell you to travel to a good doctor, but unless you're quite wealthy, that's probably impossible with four children.
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I'm so sorry this is so stressful for you. I hope you find an OB that will respect your body and work with you.
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I'm so sorry this is so stressful for you. I hope you find an OB that will respect your body and work with you.
Thanks, not likely though. Made a couple calls. Was told more than once "the doctor will need to educate you." (Or along those lines.) I don't need an education, thanks.
post #16 of 87
I think I would be comfortable with a UC, but I understand and totally support your making what you feel is the best choice for this. There was a point where everyone medical thought I would have a bad incision (my records do not exist from my cesarean - long story). So I did a lot of research about the risks surrounding other incision types and I found myself comfortable with that, atleast compared to the alternatives. I did live 3 minutes from a hospital that would section me upon arrival though too which made me feel that we'd have a bit more of a shot since we'd just call them otw if we felt anything was off (they refuse to do ANY vbacs there so the second they heard that I had one before they would roll me straight from admitting to OR).

Please be kind to yourself, and know that in doing your research and making the best possible choice for yours and your baby's health, you ARE getting the best birth. Cesareans can be good experiences if done right with a good provider. I hope that, if you choose that route, you can find one that you can work closely with, and who will support your choices in those things you choose not to do or to do differently from the norm.
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That's ANOTHER issue there.
I don't think any OB will TAKE me. I'm not "going with the flow" just to have a provider. I will still be refusing EVERYTHING. I'll get dropped fast. And, no, compromising is not an option. I'll get the section, no doubt, but prenatal care? Maybe not.
What if you didn't look for a care provider until about 38 weeks? Or wait for labor to begin naturally and then head to the hospital?

The thing is though, you want to be prepared. Some hospitals may treat you like pond scum if you just walk in there during labor without "official prenatal care."

Would any CNMs be willing to provide prenatal care with the understanding that you'll be using an OB for the birth itself? A CNM that works with an OB practice might be a good choice- though you'll still have to fight with the office over various tests.
post #18 of 87
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I think I would be comfortable with a UC, but I understand and totally support your making what you feel is the best choice for this. There was a point where everyone medical thought I would have a bad incision (my records do not exist from my cesarean - long story). So I did a lot of research about the risks surrounding other incision types and I found myself comfortable with that, atleast compared to the alternatives. I did live 3 minutes from a hospital that would section me upon arrival though too which made me feel that we'd have a bit more of a shot since we'd just call them otw if we felt anything was off (they refuse to do ANY vbacs there so the second they heard that I had one before they would roll me straight from admitting to OR).

Please be kind to yourself, and know that in doing your research and making the best possible choice for yours and your baby's health, you ARE getting the best birth. Cesareans can be good experiences if done right with a good provider. I hope that, if you choose that route, you can find one that you can work closely with, and who will support your choices in those things you choose not to do or to do differently from the norm.
Let me just be very clear, I am NOT, at this time, saying I am going with the section. I very much still want to UC. And I may. You would still? Thank you for telling me. I need to research more. I also live about 3 min. from a hospital. My other sections were't "bad"...as far as sections go. I just WANT the normal birth. It's beeter for the baby, it's better for me, and darn it - 5 cuts is alot! Yes, I AM going to make the best choice, I just don't know what that is right now. And honestly, uncertainty really bothers me.
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Some hospitals may treat you like pond scum if you just walk in there during labor without "official prenatal care."
That's just it. And I want someone who knows well ahead what I do/don't want.

What a PITA. :
post #20 of 87
You need to weigh the pros and cons. It might be better to do your own prenatal care and deal with a few days of disrespect at the hospital rather than deal with several months of disrespect at the OB office- with still no guarantees about how you'll get treated at the hospital itself.

And certainly, if there's more than one hospital in the area with an OB dept, compare all the available hospitals and select the one that's most likely to treat you well. Find out how many people can be in the OR with you, if you can have a 2nd person there so one person stays with you and one stays with the baby at all times.
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