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post #1 of 177
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I want to know if *this* is becoming a regular thing in other areas. I am posting this in TAO because I couldn’t figure out whether it belonged in the Tribal area for NC, education, activism, or where. This is mostly a rant about how “the man” is inserting himself into our lives and homes in new ways with the question of is this happening other places.

My ds2 is going to PreK at the local primary school for the second year this year. He aged out of 0-3 EI last fall and started then. It has done wonderful things for him and helped him blossom so I am very happy with him going to this school. The school itself I really like. We are both home school and public school friendly in my home. We have done both and we go with what works for our children on an individual basis.

They stagger enrollment for the PreK dept, meaning that while school may start for the county, they delay the PreK kids and bring them in to meet their teachers one on one, then pick a day and have them come in to stay one full day with their teachers and just a few of their classmates (you get a letter with what day your child is scheduled to come in) you are welcome to stay to help them adjust and watch. Then they don’t come back until the next week and when they do they just start as a regular school year. I really can appreciate that they take it slowly and want the kids and parents to be comfortable.

Here’s my concerns for what is happening now, this years as a *new* thing. We went in for our one on one meeting with the teacher. Ds was in her class last year and all went really well, until we get to the end and she tells me what time I am slotted for the “home visit”.

This year the PreK teachers (the teacher and the teacher’s asst) are *required* to go to each one of their student’s homes. I immediately ask why. She tells me that they do this in all the other counties and that this was the first county that didn’t do it. Again I simply ask why. She tells me it is to help “anchor the lines of communications” from the beginning of the year. I have the Scooby-Doo “AROOO!” look this whole time and she said that it is really informal that they just come in and let the student show them some of their favorite things and places and they take a couple of pictures of the student and a few of their favorite things. “AROOO!!!!!” They want to come in and take pictures?!?! So I ask why pictures and she says just to post around the classroom in getting to know you activities. I don’t understand why they simply can’t bring in favorite items or draw pictures or have mom and dad take a picture and send it in. So then she says that they only have 3 days to complete all of them and it will be this week.

I am not worried, and feel I am not in a position to say no. I have been having a state appointed therapist coming in my home once a week for the past 1.5-2 years for my children’s EI. And since one ds aged out and one ds is getting ready to age out of EI, the school’s SN dept has been welcomed into my home several times in the last year and this summer. I also have a friendship with one of the SN dept heads and live next to the other. I am not feeling threatened by this, but however, I am concerned for other parents. I feel this is a very thinly veiled attempt for the teachers being mandatory reporters to go into the home and asses *risk factors* for the children. Can you believe this? So does this happen elsewhere? Is this normal? Should we be helping to organize and keep this from happening?

What do you think of that?
post #2 of 177
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I have never heard of that sort of thing. We just put my stepson in pre-k last week, and if that would have been part of it, I don't think my husband would have agreed to it.

I'm in NC, too.
post #3 of 177
I haven't heard of that (I'm in TN), but my little ones are still a couple of years away from school age. That would freak me out!
post #4 of 177
I think it's a fantastic way to get a bond started between the student and teacher, and for the teacher to get a realistic idea of the child's home life. If you ever read Neufeld's Hold On to Your KIds, he actually describes this very set-up (teacher visiting their future student in their home) as being ideal.
post #5 of 177
As a teacher, I see home visits as being beneficial. For one, it brings me into the child's territory. The child may feel more comfortable showing me around their home, letting me play with their toys etc....makes for a nice connection when they come to class.

However, I am not coming to your home to see how clean it is, what it looks like or where you store your adult toys. (just kidding about the last part) Seriously, it has nothing to do with seeing your home but rather it gives me a chance to see how your child functions in an envrionment that is safe and familiar to him.

If you told me "no" it wouldn't bother me in the least and wouldn't reflect on your child either.
post #6 of 177
No f'in way. I would not allow it. Do you get to go to the teacher's house?
post #7 of 177
I have heard of this being done. In parts of MN, the teacher visits all the all day kindy kids.
post #8 of 177
Why does it bother you?
post #9 of 177
I'm in NC too. What county is this?! While we plan to homeschool DD, I'd still like to know. How intrusive! :
post #10 of 177
The prek program i work with is state/federally funded and it is a requirement for ALL of the students getting free prek.

I thought it was weird too and i thought only headstart did it. But now for "extra" federally funded programs it is a requirement to keep funding.

I have to say the kids love it. They loooooove to show off thier rooms/yards/pets etc.
post #11 of 177
I think it would be a deal breaker for me. My home is my PRIVATE space. I would be uncomfortable with being told I had to allow someone who is in fact an agent of the government to inspect it. Do they bring a warrant?
post #12 of 177
Not a chance in Hell I would allow a teacher in my home like that.
post #13 of 177
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This year the PreK teachers (the teacher and the teacher’s asst) are *required* to go to each one of their student’s homes. I immediately ask why. She tells me that they do this in all the other counties and that this was the first county that didn’t do it. Again I simply ask why. She tells me it is to help “anchor the lines of communications” from the beginning of the year. I have the Scooby-Doo “AROOO!” look this whole time and she said that it is really informal that they just come in and let the student show them some of their favorite things and places and they take a couple of pictures of the student and a few of their favorite things. “AROOO!!!!!” They want to come in and take pictures?!?! So I ask why pictures and she says just to post around the classroom in getting to know you activities. I don’t understand why they simply can’t bring in favorite items or draw pictures or have mom and dad take a picture and send it in. So then she says that they only have 3 days to complete all of them and it will be this week.

I am not worried, and feel I am not in a position to say no. I have been having a state appointed therapist coming in my home once a week for the past 1.5-2 years for my children’s EI. And since one ds aged out and one ds is getting ready to age out of EI, the school’s SN dept has been welcomed into my home several times in the last year and this summer. I also have a friendship with one of the SN dept heads and live next to the other. I am not feeling threatened by this, but however, I am concerned for other parents. I feel this is a very thinly veiled attempt for the teachers being mandatory reporters to go into the home and asses *risk factors* for the children. Can you believe this? So does this happen elsewhere? Is this normal? Should we be helping to organize and keep this from happening?

What do you think of that?
Sorry, but the Big Brother Thought Police have no place in your home. You ARE in a position to say no -- they have no warrant and are not invited. NO WAY.
post #14 of 177
I rather like this idea, a bit like the old time village school where the teacher would drop in on various neighbours and so on. It would definitely help for some children to see the teacher as a family friend rather than this alien in front of the classroom.

It would also be a good way to have communication between the teacher and parent.

But then I guess, from other posts I have seen here, that many Americans have a much more "closed" attitude about friends and neighbours. Just dropping in seems to be seen as very bad manners
So I guess the idea of having the teacher over for tea would not appeal.
post #15 of 177

Arooo?!

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Originally Posted by Elyra View Post
What do you think of that?
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This year the PreK teachers (the teacher and the teacher’s asst) are *required* to go to each one of their student’s homes.
Required by whom? That's the first thing I'd like to know.
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I feel this is a very thinly veiled attempt for the teachers being mandatory reporters to go into the home and asses *risk factors* for the children.
Ya think? Not even all that thinly veiled, actually.
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Can you believe this?
What I can't believe is that parents are going along with it!
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So does this happen elsewhere?
Not around here, so far.
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Is this normal?
Normal? For total strangers to come in, nose around our house, take pictures of our family and belongings, and give no plausible reason for it? It's better than normal - it's doubleplusgood.
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Should we be helping to organize and keep this from happening?
With all possible speed. I'd start by insisting that school parents be allowed to "anchor the lines of communication" by inspecting the homes of all teachers, teaching assistants, principals, and school board members. Be sure to check their dresser drawers for porn and get snapshots of their liquor cabinet and unwashed kitchen floor while you're there.
post #16 of 177
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Why does it bother you?
I don't know why it would bother the OP, but I'll tell you why it would bother me.

For one, although we homeschool and our house is clean and presentable and free of illegalities that I know about, I am not comfortable with a perfect stranger who will have control over our daughter and therefore our lives seeing our home when she has not been invited to do so, but rather has invited herself using the school as a strong-arm crowbar to do so.

Secondly, it smacks of policing parents.

Thirdly, it smacks of policing students.

It's an invasion of privacy.
post #17 of 177
I guess it would be okay with me if we also get to take a trip to the teacher's house to visit the teacher's family and take photos. I think that would also be a helpful bonding exercise for the child and open up lines of communication. Then the teacher would be less intimidating to the child.

Something my SIL just told me about her school (just started high school) weirded me out. She has to wear a heartrate monitor around her chest which will provide data to the teacher for her heartrate for the entire class. It also shows up on a wrist monitor the student's wearing. If her heartrate isn't above 130 for at least 20 straight minutes, she gets an "F" for the day. I think that's ridiculous. Not to mention that it's hardly likely to happen when they play volleyball. But either way it creeps me out and would feel like an invasion to me. I would be very unhappy if I was required to do that. Big Brother watching over your shoulder, kwim?
post #18 of 177
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So I guess the idea of having the teacher over for tea would not appeal.
The idea of MY INVITING the teacher over for tea would appeal just fine.

I object to the teacher and the school inviting her FOR me.
post #19 of 177
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Normal? For total strangers to come in, nose around our house, take pictures of our family and belongings, and give no plausible reason for it? It's better than normal - it's doubleplusgood.
LOVE that.

And yet at the same time I think it's a great idea. I can totally see how this would be good for the kids, but it loses all its appeal the minute it becomes a requirement. I think I would love it if the teacher called me up personally and said, "Hi, I'm going to be your kid's teacher. I would love to come and meet your kid in the safe environment of your home if you're comfortable with that and think it would be beneficial for YOUR kid" Of course, my kid is 6 months old, so we're a ways away from that
post #20 of 177
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No f'in way. I would not allow it. Do you get to go to the teacher's house?
My brother's favorite school memory is when his kindergarten teacher had a spend the night party for everyone at her house.

My niece teaches kindy, and she has all the kids over for an end of school party.

Don't know if they do this everywhere, though.
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