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Hospital Birth revisited: 4.5 months later  

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Hi,

Thought I might share this:

A letter to Virginia Mason Hospital (Seattle):

On March 3, 2003, our daughter was born in your hospital via cesarean section. Four and a half months later, we are finally able to extend feedback to you on our experience during the four days we stayed in the hospital.

Our daughter is by all general standards of medicine, healthy. To the extent that the surgery ended in a positive outcome - an alert and vigorously active baby, not in any need of resuscitation, we are grateful for the skill of the surgical team.

However, practically from the moment we entered the hospital until we left four days later with our daughter, again and again we found ourselves in an adversarial relationship with the hospital staff, and without the support of outside resources - namely our midwife - the stress of dealing with these conflicts could very easily have changed the health status of our daughter in very negative ways.

We had chosen to birth our child at home with the support of our midwife with whom we had established a close and deep personal and professional relationship over time. She was a coach and a teacher who held our values and choices in hand, balancing these with her twenty year+ skill and experience in the physical, emotional, and spiritual processes of birth.

Imagine our dismay when we were bluntly told moments before entering the OR, that she would not be allowed to be present. Of course it is easy to cite safety concerns, or conjure up some other convenient explanation, but I wonder if the real reason has more to do with the unfortunate mistrust and competitive disdain with which obstetrical doctors maintain towards midwives. I say unfortunate, because we were denied valuable emotional/physical support based on what seemed more an ego problem with the doctors involved.

Birth, being the critical defining moment of influence in a newborns health that it is, holds many clues to the future health of a newborn, and had our midwife been present, she could have advised us in subsequent care of mother and child, from a place of direct observation, rather than second hand information from an emotionally involved father who was observing the first birth of his life.

Lacking the emotional support of our chosen caregiver, we were forced to enter alone into a seemingly alien environment full of strangers who seemed to share only the most tenuous connection to our carefully thought out values regarding the sacredness of the birth process. the principal surgeon's demeanor and personality evoked more a feeling of a pre-game locker-room pep rally by a football coach, rather than the spiritual event for which we had prepared.

It is not my intent her to malign her character, merely to give constructive feedback. Again, I am grateful for her surgical skill and only wish to suggest that more could have been done to honor the wishes of the mother and father, without any undue sacrifices on the part of the hospital or its staff.

In the recovery room, despite our previously expressed wishes in triage regarding not applying any medicine to our newborn’s eyes, a nurse was moments away from doing just that when I asked her to stop. She replied somewhat defensively, "it’s state law". I maintained my stance, knowing full well that if such a law does exist, it is not enforceable. I had already clearly expressed myself on this point. Why was I put in the stressful position of having to defend my choice at such a critical moment? This kind of scenario repeated itself dozens of times in the following days.

When my wife’s initial sedative wore off, she quickly discovered that she had a pounding headache whenever she stood up. It always improved when she lay down. Dr. Brock seemed to ignore the obvious possibility of a spinal leak and instead chose to disempower the mother (and all mothers by extension), by suggesting that the headache was due to the long labor and extensive pushing. The message implied here (intentional or not) was: Birth is dangerous, especially at home, why push and embrace the primeval pain of childbirth when you can go the modern route and have an epidural and other procedures to smooth the way?

That the spinal leak diagnosis was overlooked was all the more curious given that the anesthesiologist had made about six separate stabs into the mother’s back before he finally got it right. When another older and un-ego/emotionally involved anesthesiologist visited our room days later, he quickly made the correct diagnosis, patched the leaks, and the headache was gone in 15 minutes. Three days of needless suffering while a mother was trying to be present to the miracle of birth and also face the intensity of a newborn’s needs! Really unfortunate.

Lest you think I may be acting out some slanderous vendetta based upon the length of this letter, I will not recount the many other needless conflicts we experienced - just one: A pediatric nurse enters our room and announces herself with a cold intellectual look of superiority: "I am the baby expert". How exceedingly arrogant and emotionally disconnected to utter such a statement in the presence of the true experts - a mother and baby duo who were still emerging from the most intense experience of their collective lives.

It is fashionable these days amongst health care institutions and practitioners to publish brochures which wax grandly about "patient centered care", heaping accolades upon oneself regarding excellence in listening and so forth. As a health care professional myself, I know that I must constantly strive to remove my ego from my work, refining my listening, and considering how best to benefit the person before me. It is my hope that perhaps some of these feedback may find its way to the ear-heart of someone in the hospital who might share these values of listening, honoring the diverse needs of individuals.

Respectfully,

Jordan Van Voast, Hsieh Yu Chin
post #2 of 12
Well said Jordan! How is Pema doing these days?
post #3 of 12
Very well constructed! Well said

post #4 of 12
lovely! Make sure the patient advocate/ombudsman gets a copy too.
post #5 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your feedback - I was wondering who to send it to. One small error - I got the hospital name wrong. It was Swedish, not Virginia Mason. Guess I've really put it behind me if I can't even remember the name of the hospital!

Pema is really doing well. It is a bit before 6am today and we are going for our morning walk - ride in the sling. I think she is still discharging a lot of psychic/physical trauma from the birth. She tends to startle and tense her whole body to the slightest noise - the floor squeaking.

She is very close though with both of us, and her grandmother and grandfather who live near by. So we all give her lots of love and reassure her that this world is a safe place to be. Now she is cooing to me from the next room telling me to get in there and load her into the pack-a-baby.

post #6 of 12
you should call the hospital and maybe talk to the patient advocate to get everyone's names:

ones the might be useful:

president of the hospital
head of obstetrics
head of labor and delivery
head of pediatrics
head of nursing
head of anesthesiology


those are ones I think of off hand
post #7 of 12

WOW

That is one of the MOST beautifully written letters I have ever seen!

I used to work as a RN in labor and delivery and saw this WAAYYY too often, so our 3rd baby is being homebirthed (late August).
My husband is a MD so this has been a 'defensive' position for us to take with other medical people, I just give the stats and that usually shuts them up!

I think, if more people wrote letters such as yours, things WOULD GET CHANGED. I second finding out who the charge nurse is, she/he could def. help by giving a mandatory inservice on 'sensitivity' of patients and patients rights, some sort of training to help prevent this from happening again. It seems your rights were blatently overlooked, and for that I am sorry for you and your family!

Good luck~!
post #8 of 12
Thank you for sharing your letter. Well done!
post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your support. I have written more about this on Pema Karpo's website which is listed in my personal info file. But more keeps bubbling to the surface now that I have more emotional space to remember the birth.

Here are a couple more incidents: The chief surgeon said that the abdominal infection my wife developed after the surgery - she said it was due to water bag having been broken for almost 24 hours before the birth. Very odd because it was a form of skin infection which our midwife looked up in the Merck Manual which identified it as clearly being due to the incision itself. This particular doc seemed to have some personal battle going on with midwives and homebirths that blinded her to the truth.

Recently, our midwife has come under investigation from the Department of Health (most likely due to the complaint filed by the obstetrician) who showed up at her door and tried to intimidate their way in to see her records, seemingly in ignorance of her fourth amendment rights (unlawful search and seizure). Really Gestapo like tactics.

When Upel's milk was just starting to come in, the pediatric nurse went into her fear based response which was based more on inappropriate data than our infant. Pema Karpo had (to them) bilirubin levels which seemed to indicate a possible risk (i.e. too high). The only problem with their clinical management here was that they failed to take into account the differences in expected bilirubin levels between an Asian (one would expect them to normally be higher due to this), breastfeeding infant (again, the statistics from at least one text allow these babes to have higher bilirubin levels and be normal). This was in contrast to the usual data sets on bilirubin levels which may be based on white, bottle fed infants from the 1950s in the mid-western U.S.

The pediatric nurse wanted to send Pema to a separate room to have a light treatment done. I'm not clear here whether they actually wanted to separate mother and baby as I know that some hospitals have light treatment that can be done without needing to separate mother and infant. In any case, I reluctantly consented to a heel poke to our already traumatized Pema in order to run more tests on the bilirubin which came back right on the edge of their safe levels.

Funny the sun came out in rainy Seattle just then and I said, how about a transfer to a west facing room, which I got, holding Pema in the full sunlight of a beautiful late winter evening. But I think it wasn't really necessary. Even though they messed with Upel, saying she needed to start pumping her milk (we really laughed at the breast pumping equipment - mostly because it was so inefficient and so un-necessary.) Upel's milk came in gradually, Pema nursed like she had always known how to do this, and our intuition told us that all of the fear and urgency inflicted upon us was un-necessary. Not withstanding the dangers of cerebral palsy when bilirubin levels are far too high, our Pema was alert and starting to gain back the lost weight. We were a happy threesome when the doctor told us we could leave with her blessing.

I did get a response to my letter from the hospital - some nurse in "Patient Relations" or something. She was quite apologetic, said she was concerned by the issues I raised and was making an investigation which she would share with me in writing. I will let you know if anything comes of it.


post #10 of 12

Tashi Delek!

That is a very level headed and thoughtfully written letter. Very well done. Pema is a very lucky little baby to have such a well spoken parent. Letters like that, without hysteria or accusation, have to get the hospitals attention---you see, when you are so matter-of-fact (detached) they can't dismiss you as a crank!

all the best to your new family,
victoria


p.s. i live in chicago where there is a very large tibetan community from the
'tibetan resettlement project'.
post #11 of 12
Thread Starter 
I just posted a new thread which I meant to be a continuation of this one. O well. If you like to read it, check out MDCForums>Pregnancy and Birth>Birth Stories>Midwifery under fire again.

jordan
post #12 of 12
Wonderful letter! I wish all mother/baby teams had such an advocate as you. Your right though, your mid-wife advocate should have been there for you guys, so that you could have relaxed and just been the daddy. Isn't it sad how you have to fight when you and and your partner are so vulnerable?

take care, I think you and your family are amazing!

dlb
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