Worried

[prettyflwrs]

Well I am worried about my LO. I was an idiot and I let the doctors give her shots she was fully vaccinated until she hit one year. I was uncomfortable about her reactions to the shots from the beggining but I trusted the doctor and the doctor kept saying that she was fine and her reactions were normal. At her one year shots I decided to delay the MMR and Varcella and the Hep A but I allowed the rest to be given on schedual the doctor gave her the Hep A with out my knowlage I found out that evening. Before the last round of shots my daughters who is 16 months now was talking saying baba kitty da and occationally mama. She stoped talking, I noticed that she stoped saying kitty within days of her shots but I did not reallize until recently that she had stoped saying everything, she has not said anything in several months now. She babbles all of the time though.
I am really worried that she was hurt by the shots, when she was little her leg would twitch for a few days after they gave her the shots, the doc said it was normal but I dont believe her anymore. It just doesnt seem right.
I don't know does it seem possible that the shots hurt her?
Are these possible negitive reactions to shots?
am I just a crazy overprotective mother, that is what the doctor said.

[MJ13]

You're not crazy! Trust your instincts.

sorry that you have to deal with this.

Maybe you need to go talk to a different Dr. about this and see what they say.

[JaneSmith1010]

From what I've been reading this sounds like classic vax damage. You need guidance from someone with experience. I would contact an advocacy group or someone like Wendy Lydall from IAS. You should also try to report this to a passive surveillance system, as your doc will call you crazy or stupid and recommend more vaxes. The damage in young kids can be more severe than you know b/c they cannot speak well and have not reached developmental capacity for many things that can be stunted after vax. My #1 suggestion is to seek out experienced pros, 2 be vociferous about this to doc, 3 watch your daughter like a hawk, 4 no more vaxes as she has shown contra-indicative vax reaction. Do as muh research as possible!

[alegna]

Yeah, sounds like pretty classic damage. Start making notes of EVERYTHING. If you wrote emails to anyone before or recorded in her baby book what she was saying, make notes of that and add them to your file.

good luck,

-Angela

[prettyflwrs]

Thanks. I have decided to stop her shots, I have not felt right about her shots since the first ones and luckily for both of us my husband is very wonderful and is ok with stoping her shots.
I honestly believe that if I had allowed her to be given the MMR and the Varcella vaccine then she would be in much worse shape, I am so glad that I trusted my insitincts on that one, hopefully she will be ok. She is doing good all in all. She has recently learned what we think is a word. "was tis" meaning what is this. It is not one of the words that she used before her last shots, she is still not saying any of them. But it still makes me very happy to hear her saying any words.
Thank you all so much for your support.

[MilkTrance]

Oh hon, I'm so sorry for you and your LO. My thoughts are with you. I'm glad to hear that she's doing a new word now. Maybe more will follow.

[Proverbs31]

(Hugs) I'm so sorry about your little girl

QUOTE=alegna;9063026]

Yeah, sounds like pretty classic damage. Start making notes of EVERYTHING. If you wrote emails to anyone before or recorded in her baby book what she was saying, make notes of that and add them to your file.

good luck,

-Angela[/QUOTE]

Yes! We started out vaxing ds and didn't really give it a second thought. But the one thing I did happen to do (oddly enough) was keep a log of any symptoms (no matter how minor) after each pedi visit. After his more severe reaction I happened to glance back in the log and noticed a pattern of reactions getting progressively worse after each dose of DTaP.

[AngelaB]

I have been through a similar situation with my son. Do you have food allergies in your family? At about 12-13 months my ds2 developed red firey cheeks and ears and had dry skin. We did the gluten free casien free diet and it really helped. Its my understanding that vax damage causes damage to the gut and can cause food allergies that can contribute or worsen damage done by the vaxs.

Check on the health and healing forum for more info on allergies. Its such a complicated area to research, vaxes, food allergies ect but there is some things you can look into.

If you dont already, try and go as natural in your home environment as possible. Foods, soaps, cleaners ect. If she is suffering from toxic overload you need to reduce the toxins and look into helping her flush them out of her body.

I hope this helps, its hard I know! hugs to you!
Angela

[MoonWillow]

How about taking a look at the sodium asorbate (sp) sticky in this forum? I believe that it can be used to "mop up" toxins...maybe worth taking a look.
Sorry you are going through this.

[prettyflwrs]

Hi, I am bumping this thread up becouse I have some more questions that I was hoping that more knowing people can answer.
My daughter is 2.5 now, she has not gotten any shots since she was 12 months. And she is verbally doing good. She is talking and has a pretty good vocab. We removed milk from her diet recently and it seems like that has helped too.

But there is a problem of sorts and I am wondering if it might be connected to the vaccines. First is that my DD is a toe walker. The second and more serious is that she has had several seizures (2 for sure, 2 possible) in the last month.

Could these two issues be connected to her reaction to the vaccines? I have always felt that the toe walking was due to neurological damage from the vaccines she got, now I find myself wondering about the seizures. We have no family history of seizures at all.
Is it possible that her brain was damaged by the vaccines and that is the reason that she is having seizures? or has it been long enough since her last shot that it is more likely to be caused by something else?

[loveyourohana]

YES... I believe what you are explaining, is a vaccination reaction and or injury!

Because of what is happening with your baby, and what you are explaining. I would suggest going to a DAN doctor, and perhaps a ND. You can cleanse the thimerisol and other heavy metals out of your babies system. It does work for a lot of children! They would be better at assessing and helping you cleanse the toxins from the body, and help you know if damage has been done to the intestinal track, and if that damage in the intestines is there, they can help you with a diet for your baby that will heal the gut. But even with the help of these Dr.s at this point... I would suggest following your instincts. If they suggest something that doesn't feel right... don't do it, if you KNOW something will work... even with a bunch of other suggestions coming from every direction... try yours first, if it is a knowing! Trust in yourself, and those with certificates and degrees surrounding you saying do this... you hired them, not the other way around!

Don't go to just another MD, or Ped. you most likely will be on a hunt for a longer time finding one that will agree that vaccine reactions are occurring.

I went through the trauma of vaccination reactions with my son. He lost words, he had seizures, he walked on his toes for a while, and he pulled out of it! He is not autistic, and just now, I am doing the cleanses with him that Jenny McCarthy has laid out on her site, he is now much older. I am very very fortunate that his body was able to deal with the toxins, and he pulled out of it.

What are your instincts telling you? Trust your instincts and heart above all!!! Yes... you DO have those, and they are Correct!

Feel free to PM me,
I hope everything will be alright.

[Scattershoot]

I have always felt that the toe walking was due to neurological damage from the vaccines she got

I see this a lot with autistic children. Have you looked into Dejerine-Roussy Syndrome. It is basically damage to the thalamus, sometimes as the result of stroke. The thalamus is the sensory relay station of the brain. Sensations that should be pleasurable become painful. That's why walking on the toes can occur. The nerves on the feet hurt, and this is why so many autistic children can't stand being touched or noises become overwhelming or don't like to eat non-bland foods. Some children will take off clothes because the sensation is too much.

One hypothesis is that the vaccines create a rush of white blood cells to ward off all the toxins in vaccines. This in turns creates a blockage of red blood cells and oxygen. The oxygen blockage to the thalamus in the form of micro-vascular strokes creates this aversion to sensory stimuli. Dr. Moulden has been talking about this a lot.

[CCChanel]

Originally Posted by prettyflwrs

I don't know does it seem possible that the shots hurt her?
Are these possible negitive reactions to shots?
am I just a crazy overprotective mother, that is what the doctor said.

Hopefully you've found a more holistic healthcare provider?

[prettyflwrs]

Originally Posted by CCChanel

Hopefully you've found a more holistic healthcare provider?

Somewhat. I would not describe her current doctor as holistic, however he is ok with not giving my DD anymore shots, supposedly though it is becouse he does not like to make the babys cry, and his office does not question me and argue when I tell them that she had a bad reaction to the shots which is nice. I even saw an ad (looking for patients/subjects) in his waiting room about a clinical trial study thing that one of the doctors was running on a what they called natural homeopathic antidepresent.
He is ok, all in all.

[prettyflwrs]

Originally Posted by loveyourohana

What are your instincts telling you? Trust your instincts and heart above all!!! Yes... you DO have those, and they are Correct!

Feel free to PM me,
I hope everything will be alright.

Thanks.

My instincts are honestly telling me that she is ok, and what damage is done is likely done. I just need to be more careful in the future. My DD is doing great developmentally (it is so cute, she is starting to play with other kids, you know, acually play, like a big girl).
I am freaked about the seizures though, this is new. We are waiting to see a doctor about it and I am freaked so I am starting to think I am focusing on it and searching for a cause, to know something, anything becouse I am so in the dark about what is going on. you know, as a coping mechanism.

[CCChanel]

Originally Posted by loveyourohana

Because of what is happening with your baby, and what you are explaining. I would suggest going to a DAN doctor, and perhaps a ND.

[loveyourohana]

Again I would urge you to skip the regular MD Dr. and go straight to a DAN Dr. and Homeopathic Dr

DAN Dr.s can have a good waiting list, get on it and a homeopathic Dr. will focus on why your baby is having seizures, and start on a journey of a cure, instead of just giving a drug to mask them... that is the difference. Its a huge difference.

[Ophelia]

Originally Posted by loveyourohana

Again I would urge you to skip the regular MD Dr. and go straight to a DAN Dr. and Homeopathic Dr

DAN Dr.s can have a good waiting list, get on it and a homeopathic Dr. will focus on why your baby is having seizures, and start on a journey of a cure, instead of just giving a drug to mask them... that is the difference. Its a huge difference.

I agree. Trust your instincts, if you feel your baby has had a vaccine injury, those injuries can sometimes be helped by a DAN! doctor. Document everything, keep a journal of the vaccines given, reactions, behavior, and diet and look into seeing a DAN! doctor.

[prettyflwrs]

I understand what you all are saying, I am resisting for a couple of reasons.
1. the only DAN doctor anywhere near me (within a 3 hour drive) creeps me out. She has a web page and I have looked at it, she seems like she is just selling vitimins. I dont like her, I dont like the feeling I get from her, I dont like the vibe from her website. I dont think she is worth the money it would cost me.
2. I dont want my dd on meds but she needs to see a pediactric neurologist. She has not had her seizures evaluated yet, she has not had a single test run. We need to make sure there is no other cause to the seizures (ie. brain tumor).
3. I guess I get the feeling from everyones responses that my DD has/had a vax injury which I agree with however I am questioning if the seizures are really connected. They just started. She had her last shot a year and a half ago. I am not sure if anyone caught the diffrence in dates from the first post. I did not get the feeling that anyone did.
Can seizures really show up after a year and a half?

[CookAMH]

I noticed the dates as I read all the posts today, and I do urge you to get some medical counsel from someone who would not treat the seizures, but treat the underlying causes (ie not getting seizure meds). Yes, the damage may be done, and yes it was a while ago, but as she has grown, there could be affects now seen because her brain is bigger perhaps. I am just guessing. But I do strongly feel that there may be something that can be done NOW to purge toxins from her body that if allowed to remain, will continue to torture her little body with seizures and other things you may not even be able to see.

I encourage you to think, what can I do, instead of, what's done is done, and she is doing fine. There may be other developmental milestones that she can't reach in years to come that you can't determine now, and it's worth a shot to at least get professional insight into root causes. Don't accept treatment of the symptoms - get in there and figure out what is going on inside of her.