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post #1 of 66
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Hi,

I'm creating this new thread so that anyone interested in participating in the Lactivist Lobby will "sign-in" (virtually) here.

For those of you that have no idea what I'm talking about , please see this thread.
post #2 of 66
Yes yes yes
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I'm in!
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Thanks, by the way!
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Awesome!
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I'm in!
post #8 of 66
i'm in...i'd love to see more people properly educated about bf!
post #9 of 66
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Originally Posted by krystyn33 View Post
Thanks, by the way!
You're welcome.
post #10 of 66
I'm in!!! Subbing now to make sure I keep up!
post #11 of 66
I'd love to help.
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...couldn't pass this up!
post #13 of 66
Thread Starter 
It's wonderful to see everyone here.

Okay, first things first... I think we need a set of defining principles. How would the formula lobby do it? Well, I guess they'd write some guidelines in place which would be to the benefit of all formula companies, so in the spirit of that (can't believe I'm taking the example of formula companies to do this ), let's define some guidelines for this lobby so that this lobby represents ALL lactivists.

A little bit about me:

My name is Mama Bear. I consider myself a lactivist, yet I am not your "typical" lactivist because I supplement with formula AND I exclusively pump. I think even if I didn't lactate at all, though, I would still be a lactivist, because at my core I firmly believe women should have every right to breastfeed their children wherever they are, in the same way women now have the right to bottle-feed their children wherever they are. So, if the public deems it appropriate that a child be fed with a bottle in X location, the public should deem it appropriate that the same child (or same-aged child, anyway) be fed with the breast (this is a rule of thumb; there probably are exceptions, but I can't think of any at the moment). I think covering up should be at the discretion of the woman who is breastfeeding, not at the discretion of whoever may be offended by seeing her breastfeed. I believe every child deserves to be breastfed, and barring that (because of whatever reason), I believe every child deserves to be fed with human milk. However, if that is not possible (and in many many legitimate cases it is, like in mine), then artificial baby milk (formula) is an acceptable substitute of last recourse. It is really important to acknowledge that formula is food and not "garbage" or whatever other denigrating term you've heard said, and this is extremely important to remember because many mothers (lactivists and not) do feed their babies formula, many of them not by choice but as a last resort. The lactivist lobby does not exist to alienate mothers who use formula, for whatever reason they do. The lactivist lobby exists to try and effect enough change in the law so that breastfeeding mothers are protected and so that breastfeeding rates increase to the point that the biological norm of breastfeeding is also perceived as the societal norm. Right now the problem with getting legislation passed is that the societal norm for infant feeding is unfortunately artificial baby milk in a bottle. If that perception were to change, and if people were to become accustomed to seeing women feeding their babies with their breasts (covered or not, just the act of a woman breastfeeding in public), getting legislation passed to protect breastfeeding mothers would be a walk in the park. The formula lobby wouldn't be allowed to hurt as many babies and moms as they do ("collateral damage" I suppose they'd call it, or "a coincidence" or even better "not provable"), better hospital policies would likely get implemented (or politicians would see the sense in getting them passed), and society as a whole would actually become more woman- and child-friendly.

That being said, I think the guidelines should include (feel free to modify or add any other guidelines you feel I may have missed, and we can all discuss it):

+No judgment toward individual mothers who use formula, for whatever reason (this can be very easy to do or very difficult given the situation, but we must be consistent about this)
+It is okay to judge institutions (like hospitals) that should know better for choosing to feed formula before trying to get lactation established (or before making a concerted effort to get breast milk to babies instead of formula, if the baby's own mother can't produce milk), depending on the situation (obviously in cases like that of severe galactosemia in the infant, there isn't much of a recourse other than soy formula, but we should look at each situation individually).
+I feel this is really super-necessary: the lactivist lobby should not condone or support any for-profit human milk banking scheme, as this would make getting breast milk in hospitals even more expensive for babies' families than it already is. It would make it at least TEN TIMES more expensive, and possibly more, depending on the product being bought.
+Furthermore, the lactivist lobby should support all HMBANA milk banks, the efforts they make to get breast milk to needy babies, and the efforts they've made for decades to make sure that babies who needed it got breast milk, even if the babies' families couldn't pay.


The Lactivist Lobby should:
*write letters to representatives to try to get baby-friendly hospital policies passed
*write letters to representatives to try to get breastfeeding-friendly policies passed for all women, but especially for working mothers who need to have access to a clean private area for pumping...
*get awareness out there for how formula marketing affects consumer opinion about breastfeeding
*increase awareness of how formula companies distort public perception of breastfeeding by influencing the media (with sponsorship)
* any other suggestions? They are all welcome...

(For the record, I am not affiliated in any way with any formula company, any for-profit milk banking scheme, nor any HMBANA milk bank or milk bank of any kind: I am an ordinary mom who happens to be a very strong lactivist, and I am writing these guidelines based on my observations and research.)

I know this is long, and if need be, we can form a group elsewhere to get it more "formalized." I'm hoping to be able to either create a website for this group or at least create a page on my existing website for it. Suggestions? Questions? Disagreements? Changes that need to be made?
post #14 of 66
I think that's not only well written but well thought out.
What about including maternity leave? Does that extend the focus too far? I know Moms Rising works toward a paid leave here in the states, so maybe it isn't needed by us?
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I think that's not only well written but well thought out.
What about including maternity leave? Does that extend the focus too far? I know Moms Rising works toward a paid leave here in the states, so maybe it isn't needed by us?
You know, I think maternity leave is definitely relevant, because breastfeeding has a steep learning curve, and it's not always mastered by six weeks. Though in this country, I'm not even sure that we're given that much time for maternity leave... Does anyone know what the legal requirement for maternity leave in the US is? Is it with or without pay?

(Thanks, btw. )
post #16 of 66
I don't know the exact details, but FMLA offers up to 12 weeks, UNPAID, and only IF a company is large enough--small enough businesses (don't know exact criteria) are not bound to provide any leave at all. Most companies offer 6-8 weeks paid through a short term disability insurance.

I left my job for many reasons but BFing was number one!
post #17 of 66

Opportunity this weekend?

I know there will be nurse-outs across the country this weekend in support of Brooke Ryan. We're having one in our town. I'm thinking of bringing a petition or something to get proactive with protecting NIP rights. Any recommendations or advice? Are letters more effective? Maybe I can hand out form letters for people to sign and send, asking our congressman to support the Breastfeeding Promotion Act?

Thoughts? Suggestions? TIA!
post #18 of 66
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Originally Posted by krystyn33 View Post
I know there will be nurse-outs across the country this weekend in support of Brooke Ryan. We're having one in our town. I'm thinking of bringing a petition or something to get proactive with protecting NIP rights. Any recommendations or advice? Are letters more effective? Maybe I can hand out form letters for people to sign and send, asking our congressman to support the Breastfeeding Promotion Act?

Thoughts? Suggestions? TIA!

Petitions are a fantastic idea! This is precisely what politicians need to understand: that pro-breastfeeding legislation will affect many REAL people's lives, and not just the women who breastfeed, either. It will affect the women's husbands and children and whole families. If you think about it, the overall health of society depends on it.

So yeah, petitions are definitely a good idea... I wonder if we can get an online petition going for this... I need to research it, because some of those petition sites seem like ways to get spam in your inbox and I'm not really sure how it works or if it's actually doing anything to make anything better, kwim?

I also think letters are a good idea. We need to research and compile a list of who the representatives are for our respective cities and states, and get letters out to them... Also, we can call ourselves whatever we want... "Lactivist Lobby" might sound extreme to mainstream audiences (and politicians), and we wouldn't want to turn them off before they even hear us out. Maybe something like the Coalition for Breastfeeding-Friendly Initiatives or something? Obviously I need to put more thought into this...
post #19 of 66
I would love to get involved as well, but I don't even know where to start. I guess being in Florida I would love to get some kind of law passed that would make some sort of inforcement of our NIP laws. You know, a lot of states of NIP laws (FL being one and we have a good one) but I dont' think that we have a law that inforces our legislation, you know so that a buisness/person can be ticketed or whatever for harassing a bf women.

So how do we do this??
post #20 of 66
[QUOTE=MamaBear1976;9080975]So, if the public deems it appropriate that a child be fed with a bottle in X location, the public should deem it appropriate that the same child (or same-aged child, anyway) be fed with the breast (this is a rule of thumb;

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i know this was included as your introduction and not as part of the guidelines, but i feel it is VERY important to NOT limit the right to bf, nip, pump to those with a child of a certain age. i'm struggling with the wording in the breastfeeding act of 2007 right now, that states 'new mothers.' i am not a 'new mother' but i'd still like to see my right to bf my 21 month old (whether nip or pump/bottle) protected.

i don't think we should imply that a child that is 'too old' for a bottle is also 'too old' to bf. i know that dentists frown on the use of bottles after about 18 months due to the impact they have on the face and teeth. breasts conform to the shape of the child's mouth and, therefore, are not as detrimental. also, breastmilk doesn't contain the tooth-decaying sugars that are found in formula, soda, juice, etc.

sorry...i NEVER in a million years thought i'd be full-term nursing any child of mine! but now that i am, i am very sensitive to the fact that social stigma placed on those of us who nurse is smoothering. then, try nursing a wriggling toddler out in public. forget smoothering, try stares of disgust and whispers of child molestation! i would like to change the public's image of bf, not just of bf an infant!

thanks, mamabear for having the guts to do all of this. i'm really not trying to pick you apart, i just wanted to be sure that full-term nursers get their say as well!
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