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post #41 of 433
9/10/07 at 10:16pm
i don't eat raw eggs. i don't like that. bleh! no. not for me.

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post #42 of 433
9/11/07 at 3:23am
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Originally Posted by CholoMama View Post
I swear the mega doses of coconut oil is what helped us conceive as I had problems with thyroid and low progesterone diagnosed about 2 months ago.
What kind of thyroid problems were you having? Hypo- or hyper?
post #43 of 433
9/11/07 at 3:42am
Hashimoto's as antibodies were detected in my blood but although it was outside of normal range (it was 78 and was supposed to be under 60) (and the TSH was definitely too high too) the doc didn't give any meds, just sent me on my way pretty confused. So I got onto it and I researched the whole thing and started on megadoses of coconut oil a la EFLF, tyrosine (an amino acid) supplements, stepped up the CLO to 20,000IU and started exercising. Can't say for sure that did it but I feel it did. So I guess it was more hypo in its manifestation. I had some hypo- symptoms but not many of them, that's what was confusing. You don't have thyroid problems do you?
post #44 of 433
9/11/07 at 4:48am
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No, but my DH does. He's been seeing a naturopathic thyroid specialist for a year now and has finally gotten the right dose to bring his body temp to normal. Armor brand thyroid med didn't work for him (not the right ratio of T3 and T4 - I forget which way it went, but his body produces one and not the other, so he didn't need both and Armor has both). He also has extreme D deficiency (naturopath has him on Thorne Research D3) and Celiacs disease, and a thing where his body hoardes iron in his blood so he has to donate blood every 3 months or the iron builds up so much that it causes pain in his joints, and he also apparently has extreme adrenal fatigue brought on by years of undiagnosed hypothyroid. The naturopath hasn't diagnosed that part yet, but it matches his symptoms and makes perfect sense. He also has extreme metabolic resistance and isn't able to lose weight despite a low-carb TF diet and vigorous exercise, so he's pre-diabetic. Supposedly once his D deficiency is cured, his metabolic resistance will diminish, enabling him to lose weight and lower his risk for diabetes.

I want to help him with all of this through nutrition as much as possible. Unfortunately, his ND has never heard of Nourishing Traditions. But I do have him on 4ml (20,000 iu of D) of Blue Ice CLO daily. I also found an article on WAP today that says you must supplement with cal/mag if you're taking high doses of vitamin D. So I took notes on the most bio-available forms of cal and mag, and recommended brands, and bought him some today.

We're praying for him to get well. Poor guy, he's been feeling horrible for way too long. But the meds are helping him feel much better than he did a year ago!
post #45 of 433
9/11/07 at 6:04am
Your poor DH! That sounds like quite a lot to be dealing with. You reminded me when you mentioned he is celiac, that I went off gluten, too, as there is a link between gluten intolerance and hashimoto's. Also I was very lucky in that my naturopath is a big TF fan, knew all about it, had been to see Sally Fallon in Brisbane and loved her, big fan of raw milk, gives her kids CLO, etc.

Are you sure you have him on the right dosage of CLO? From what I can read on the label, 2.5ml would give him 575 IUs of Vit D, so if he is taking 4ml that wouldn't be anything near 20,000 IUs. I think I've read in EFLF that people with health problems can take a lot more CLO than the standard dose, for a certain time anyway.

Hope he gets on top of these health problems soon.
post #46 of 433
9/11/07 at 2:59pm
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Oh my goodness! All this time I've been mixed up on the levels of A and D! The Blue Ice Gold Theraputics label says 4 ml contains 2,000 D and 20,000 A.

Quote from WAP: http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnut...ndmiracle.html
If you have symptoms of vitamin-D insufficiency or are unable to spend time in the sun, due to season or lifestyle or prior skin cancer, consider adding a supplement of 1,000 IU daily.... (Do not attempt to obtain large amounts of vitamin D from cod liver oil alone, as this would supply vitamin A in excessive and possibly toxic amounts.)

Another quote:
The recommended dosages for cod liver oil provide about 500 IU vitamin D for children, 1000 IU vitamin D for adults, 2000 IU vitamin D for pregnant and nursing women and up to 9000 IU for those taking large amounts of cod liver oil to deal with stress and disease...Experiments show that even during the winter with a low vitamin D intake, humans will exhaust stores of vitamin D at a rate of 3000-4000 IU per day, an amount that many people require to maintain optimal levels of the vitamin in the blood. Extensive exposure to summer sun at mid latitudes naturally produces levels of vitamin D in the blood equivalent to what is attained by supplementing with a continued daily dose of 10,000 IU, suggesting humans are designed to tolerate such large amounts of vitamin D.
post #47 of 433
9/11/07 at 3:17pm
How long have you been interested in Traditional Foods and how did you first learn about it? When my dd was a year old and we realized she was gluten intolerant. She also was showing signs of autism (she has Asperger's) and we were desperate to find natural ways of helping her, as food seemed to be a big trigger for her symptoms. I read NT and alot of the info made sense to me and felt instinctively right. We started eating more fermented foods, only pastured meats/eggs, less grains, and focusing on local foods. The change in our daughter has been amazing!

When is your baby due? April 2008

Which number child will this be for you, and what are the ages of your other children (if any)? Baby #3, DD will be 3 1/2 and DS is 17 months.

What kind of birth are you having? homebirth, probably another UC

What are your other interests/hobbies? knitting, cooking, hanging out with friends and family, gardening, hiking, going to the beach.

What part of the world do you live in? Washington state

One crazy fun fact about yourself! I am completely disgusted by athletic socks. They freak me out! :
post #48 of 433
9/11/07 at 7:50pm
Anyone know some good foods to help relieve any breast tissue pain?

I have been having crazy stressful neck and upper breast tissue discomfort for DAYS now, and I feel all stressed and it just dawned on me what it is. Which would also explain why my friends 2 month old tries to assume nursing position when I hold him.... I smell like milk! I think I always have since Siah just stopped this Christmas. Anyway, I would always get this uncomfortable feeling if he had gone several hours without nursing. And only then. I wonder if I still have some old milk plugged up? if so, I think I am going to do some massage and hot water, but what foods may help me unplug?
post #49 of 433
9/11/07 at 9:02pm
I firmly believe that egg nog will cure all that ails you. :
post #50 of 433
9/11/07 at 11:00pm
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Originally Posted by thomlynn View Post
I firmly believe that egg nog will cure all that ails you. :
with rum or without?

I would actually make some, except I feel today like I also got a stomach bug. So I don't think I will feel like eating anything else today.
post #51 of 433
9/12/07 at 2:26am
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Oh!!! I want egg nog!! Here's a fabulous recipe I found (sadly we'll all have to forgo the rum and whisky):

http://256.com/gray/recipes/eggnog/
Ingredients 8 servings 16 servings 24 servings
Fresh Eggs (separated into yolks/whites) 4 8 12
Sugar (divided into 2 equal parts) 1/2 cup
(1/4c, 1/4c) 1 cup
(1/2c, 1/2c) 1 1/2 cups
(3/4c, 3/4c)
White Rum (dark works) 1/2 cup 1 cup 1 1/2 cups
Milk (Whole or 2%) 1 1/2 cups 3 cups 4 1/2 cups
Whiskey (Bourbon or Canadian) 1 1/2 cups 3 cups 4 1/2 cups
Heavy/Whipping Cream
(divided into 2 equal parts) 1 cup
(1/2c, 1/2c) 2 cups
(1c, 1c) 3 cups
(1 1/2c, 1 1/2c)
Ground Nutmeg
(strongly recommended) Enough to sprinkle on servings.
Consider whole nutmeg nuts and grinder.

Eggnog Recipe Instructions
You are doing things gently and slowly to preserve the eggnog's fluffiness. A good whisk for the stirring and a high speed mixer for the egg-whites and cream helps this process immensely. Notes on taking this to a party below.

1. Separate eggs into yolks and whites in separate bowls (see below for a how-to). I put the whites into the mixer and the yolks into another bowl.
2. Beat egg-yolks with 1/2 of sugar, set aside.
3. Beat egg-whites until stiff, then mix in other 1/2 of sugar.
4. Pour the yolks into the whites and mix together slowly.
5. Stir in white rum slowly. I've tried dark rum and it works.
6. Stir in milk slowly (see below for dairy intolerance)
7. Stir in whiskey slowly (Bourbon, Canadian, Sour Mash. I use Jim Beam or Jack Daniels)
8. Stir in 1/2 of cream slowly
9. Whip rest (1/2) of cream and fold in carefully. Notes on how to fold below.
10. Serve at room temperature by ladling the eggnog into cups and sprinkle nutmeg on the top. Information on nutmeg grinders below. Try to get some of the foam and some of the liquid (if not fully mixed) in each cup.

French toast: Although certainly almost as good as a drink the next morning, eggnog can be refrigerated overnight and used at breakfast by soaking bread in it and frying till browned for some excellent French toast -- adding butter and syrup at will.
post #52 of 433
9/12/07 at 2:17pm
I'm on another board and they are always talking about taking a cal/mag combo during pregnancy.

What are everyone's thoughts on this?? I'm drinking my quart of raw milk daily along with some cheese and yogurt too.
post #53 of 433
9/12/07 at 2:55pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taedareth View Post
Oh!!! I want egg nog!! Here's a fabulous recipe I found (sadly we'll all have to forgo the rum and whisky):

http://256.com/gray/recipes/eggnog/
Ingredients 8 servings 16 servings 24 servings
Fresh Eggs (separated into yolks/whites) 4 8 12
Sugar (divided into 2 equal parts) 1/2 cup
(1/4c, 1/4c) 1 cup
(1/2c, 1/2c) 1 1/2 cups
(3/4c, 3/4c)
White Rum (dark works) 1/2 cup 1 cup 1 1/2 cups
Milk (Whole or 2%) 1 1/2 cups 3 cups 4 1/2 cups
Whiskey (Bourbon or Canadian) 1 1/2 cups 3 cups 4 1/2 cups
Heavy/Whipping Cream
(divided into 2 equal parts) 1 cup
(1/2c, 1/2c) 2 cups
(1c, 1c) 3 cups
(1 1/2c, 1 1/2c)
Ground Nutmeg
(strongly recommended) Enough to sprinkle on servings.
Consider whole nutmeg nuts and grinder.

Eggnog Recipe Instructions
You are doing things gently and slowly to preserve the eggnog's fluffiness. A good whisk for the stirring and a high speed mixer for the egg-whites and cream helps this process immensely. Notes on taking this to a party below.

1. Separate eggs into yolks and whites in separate bowls (see below for a how-to). I put the whites into the mixer and the yolks into another bowl.
2. Beat egg-yolks with 1/2 of sugar, set aside.
3. Beat egg-whites until stiff, then mix in other 1/2 of sugar.
4. Pour the yolks into the whites and mix together slowly.
5. Stir in white rum slowly. I've tried dark rum and it works.
6. Stir in milk slowly (see below for dairy intolerance)
7. Stir in whiskey slowly (Bourbon, Canadian, Sour Mash. I use Jim Beam or Jack Daniels)
8. Stir in 1/2 of cream slowly
9. Whip rest (1/2) of cream and fold in carefully. Notes on how to fold below.
10. Serve at room temperature by ladling the eggnog into cups and sprinkle nutmeg on the top. Information on nutmeg grinders below. Try to get some of the foam and some of the liquid (if not fully mixed) in each cup.

French toast: Although certainly almost as good as a drink the next morning, eggnog can be refrigerated overnight and used at breakfast by soaking bread in it and frying till browned for some excellent French toast -- adding butter and syrup at will.
It's cooler here today, and talking about all this eggnog is making me feel festive I think I will have some for snack later

I am nowhere near a quart of milk a day, but I guess pretty near if you count other dairy products. I just could not afford the food bill for that much raw milk. I will be making more kefir when I get my grains, so I guess I will be adding that on to my everyday milk intake. i think if you get enough raw milk you don't need supplements. Raw milk gets a lot more calcium into your system than pasteurized.
post #54 of 433
9/12/07 at 3:04pm
I had heard that too about the calcium. Any thoughts on the mag?? I have some mamacalm I can take but I'm really really put off by the taste. Plus you have to drink it warm.
post #55 of 433
9/12/07 at 3:17pm
i don't do egg nog. never liked it. i guess i'm a picky eater. and i don't do alcohol anyway, because it burns. i've never liked the burn.

i don't know about the mag/cal bit.

but here's my thing. i see a lot of women out there out of shape, on crazy, crappy diets, smokin', drinkin' coke or diet coke, and being all around nutso with essentially "perfectly healthy" babies.

my diet is the bomb diggity, i'm in great shape, and i mostly drink teas and water.

i'm not worried about supplements or prenatal vitamins or any of the sort. i'm happy as i am. and healthy too.

if those on nutso diets and what not can bear healthy babies, then i bet i can too.
post #56 of 433
9/12/07 at 3:56pm
How long have you been interested in Traditional Foods and how did you first learn about it?

I've been interested in TF since college, and only found out about WAPF and the TF subculture recently, about 2 years ago, even though I had incorporated a lot of the ideals of TF eating into my diet previously. I'd say I eat Whole Foods, not necessarily TF all the time, unfortunately the fermentables aren't always my cup of tea.


When is your baby due?

May 17 2008!


Which number child will this be for you, and what are the ages of your other children (if any)?

Baby #1. So excited!


What kind of birth are you having?

Birth in a birthing center, waterbirth, with my CNMW that I adore.


What are your other interests/hobbies?

I'm an obsessive knitter and spinner (hence the name FiberLover), raise my own sheep, goats, chickens, and garden and grow fruit on my microfarm. I adore the animals and the good food they give me, and now, clothing made from my own hands too!


What part of the world do you live in?

New Mexico (almost Colorado)


One crazy fun fact about yourself!

I hate bananas!
post #57 of 433
9/12/07 at 5:29pm
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Michelle, do you have angora goats or does all your fiber come from the sheep? Sounds fun!!!
post #58 of 433
9/12/07 at 5:58pm
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Originally Posted by thomlynn View Post
I'm on another board and they are always talking about taking a cal/mag combo during pregnancy.

What are everyone's thoughts on this?? I'm drinking my quart of raw milk daily along with some cheese and yogurt too.
You need Mg to absorb the Ca. Add some cocoa to your milk Seriously, I wouldn't worry about it a whole heck of a lot though.

Not pregnant, so going back to lurkdom
post #59 of 433
9/12/07 at 6:03pm
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On the subject of cal/mag, I drink probably a quart per day (sometimes more) of raw milk and/or kefir made from raw milk. I've also started taking 400mg calcium lactate tablets with 200 mg magnesium glycinate.

Do you guys think a quart daily of raw milk really provides all the cal/mag a pregnant and nursing mother needs? My first child was born with weak and pitted tooth enamel, so I don't want to take any chances on not getting enough calcium and magnesium.

This quote really got my attention:
http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnut...ralprimer.html
It is magnesium, not calcium, that helps form hard tooth enamel, resistant to decay.
post #60 of 433
9/12/07 at 10:40pm
Sorry I'm a little late. Internet access for me is a bit spotty! :0)

How long have you been interested in Traditional Foods and how did you first learn about it?
Umm...a little over a year now? I actually first heard about it here on MDC!

When is your baby due?
Early January...but in reality whenever the little bean decides to make an appearance (this part is very important to me considering what happened last time).

Which number child will this be for you, and what are the ages of your other children (if any)?
#2 - I have a ds who is 2 1/2

What kind of birth are you having?
Home birth after cesarean (HBAC)

What are your other interests/hobbies?
Right now I'm reading up on herbalism/homeopathy. I go through these research kicks on any number of subjects where I check out just about every book the library has on a particular subject and learn everything I can.

Otherwise...I REALLY like me a good documentary.

What part of the world do you live in?
The midwest

One crazy fun fact about yourself!
Lately I have a really big weakness for Pop Tarts!

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