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post #21 of 37
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Someday I will get back to church. It is a great high.

Its too much right now though, 45 min away with 3 little ones
post #22 of 37
We've gone to the Unity church several times since that first time. I enjoy the fact that they are of like minds. That it's more understanding than I've ever seen my whole life.

We also went to the little store in the church this past Sunday and I saw Angel Oracle cards. That right there made me feel good because I give readings. So it felt as if more of myself was understood.
post #23 of 37
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Originally Posted by transformed View Post
Someday I will get back to church. It is a great high.

Its too much right now though, 45 min away with 3 little ones
I have two kids (12 and 10) and sometimes hubby goes with us. It's an act of congress to get us up early for a purpose on time like that, lol. However, we all enjoy going and being there, so we are trying to make it part of our routine.
post #24 of 37
Just newly into this church following the lead of a friend, who told another friend about one in another state.

Anyone going these days?

I really love it, and never thought I"d be such a devoted church person, but Sunday's are now my favorite day. WHat else I like is that I don't have to leave anything at the door (I consider myself Buddhist with pagan leanings....)

Also have started ACIM recently too and am loving it as well.

Just thought I'd see if anyone is still involved or wants to discuss/share.
post #25 of 37
Hiya, sure...sharing is a good thing. We still go to our local Unity church and thoroughly enjoy it each time we go. Because it is so far away, we don't go as often as we'd like.

I'd love to start some sort of weekly meeting of a Unity nature out here, but I really have no idea how to start such a thing.

Definitely an enjoyable thing in our life.
post #26 of 37
My husband and I went to a Unity church and really liked it. In fact, we thought we had finally found our church home!

I did more research on it before joinging and back then, Unity's website indicated they weren't Christian. Specifically, I remember it saying that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit were just concepts that really represented the mind, the body, and the heart. In other words, the story of Jesus is meant to teach us something but isn't necessarily about a real person who lived on this earth. The website now gives a very different impression, so now I'm confused. Honestly, that was a deal-breaker for us, and if it turns out they are Christian afterall, we'll likely go back!
post #27 of 37
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My husband and I went to a Unity church and really liked it. In fact, we thought we had finally found our church home!

I did more research on it before joinging and back then, Unity's website indicated they weren't Christian. Specifically, I remember it saying that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit were just concepts that really represented the mind, the body, and the heart. In other words, the story of Jesus is meant to teach us something but isn't necessarily about a real person who lived on this earth. The website now gives a very different impression, so now I'm confused. Honestly, that was a deal-breaker for us, and if it turns out they are Christian afterall, we'll likely go back!
Are you sure you didn't confuse Unitarian Universalist and Unity churches? That sounds much more like UU, I don't believe that the Unity church has changed its beliefs at any point. They are considered part of New Thought Christianity.
post #28 of 37
No, I'm positive it wasn't a UU church -- I found the church on Unity's website.. I'm not saying that Unity has changed their beliefs, but they've clearly changed their website, and either I misinterpreted it back then or I am now. But I distinctly remember a discussion on the trinity being symbolic and that the bible was not to be taken literally. I'm not a big fan of literal interpretations myself, but I do think that it's written about real people and not just allegory. The website now says that the bible is a "metaphysical representation of humankind's evolutionary journey toward spiritual awakening" and also gives a pdf for a Chanukah service, so I am totally confused!
post #29 of 37
WOW! They totally changed the website.

There used to be a useful list of FAQs. They are still on some specific church sites. Here's one:

http://www.unitydallas.org/Pages/faq.html#top

Here is what you probably read about the Trinity:

Does Unity believe in the Trinity?
The Trinity is commonly known as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Metaphysically, it is known as mind, idea, expression. First is mind. Then mind expresses itself in ideas. Then ideas make themselves manifest. Humans, too, represent the Trinity in Spirit, soul and body. But the Trinity is one God, and humans are one with the Creator. You might hear oneness emphasized more often in Unity than the Trinity

Does Unity teach that Jesus was divine, the son of God, the Messiah?
Jesus was a man from Nazareth, the son of Mary, a teacher, a human and historical being.

He became keenly aware of his divine nature and his connection to God, and as he shared what he knew, he was called Christ, the anointed one. Unity sees Jesus as an elder brother, someone to show us the way, to show us our own potential as humans when we are fully aligned with God.

“We all want more life, more happiness, more good,” wrote Charles Fillmore, “and we can have everything we want if we comply with the divine law as Jesus did.”

___________________________
There are many different interpretations of Jesus' teachings and many consider themselves Christian - as in follower of Christ.

I think if you like the church, you need to decide if it's right for yourself and not worry about if OTHER people would consider it Christian or not. Unity churches certainly consider themselves to be Christian churches.
post #30 of 37

Update on me....

If anyone cares, I'm still committed unity principles but my church has experienced a lot of dysfunction lately and I'm not loving it all. It's very sad.

I'm looking for more of a Buddhist family service kind of thing. I'd like to get away from very anthropomorphic interpretations of the divine.
post #31 of 37
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Originally Posted by Ellien C View Post
If anyone cares, I'm still committed unity principles but my church has experienced a lot of dysfunction lately and I'm not loving it all. It's very sad.

I'm looking for more of a Buddhist family service kind of thing. I'd like to get away from very anthropomorphic interpretations of the divine.
FWIW, I was involved in Unity churches in leadership roles, and in the Unity and New Thought movements in general, for around 7 years. I loved many of the ideas and principles, but suffered the greatest spiritual and emotional abuse at the hands of Unity's leaders and adherents that I've ever experienced. Of the 20 or so churches I had regular contact with, I never found one that didn't have extreme levels of dysfunction. If I had not been as involved behind the scenes and seen the things that went on, I could very likely still be involved in Unity and have no idea what kinds of things went on in the movement. But having seen it, I could never set foot in another Unity church ever again in good conscience. As much as I loved some of the principles, the open-mindedness, and the meditative quality (in some of the churches-- again each one is different depending on the beliefs and perspective of the minister), it would be akin to deciding to date someone who once raped you. It just doesn't work.

If you need to talk, I'm available via PM.
post #32 of 37
I have been exploring churches lately. My family historically has been episcopalian, and I don't even know how to spell it.

Unity seems most consistent with my own beliefs -- Filmore was even a vegetarian. Can you please tell me about the dysfunction you experienced?

We could do PM or you could post on the board if not ua and it's anonymous.
post #33 of 37
There are just a lot of egos going on in my church. In my mid-30's I'm one of the youngest people there. We've fired 2 ministers in the last 5 years. The last one caused a huge rift in the congregation - some of them really liked the minister. A bunch of people quit the board of directors over the firing and the small group that did the firing placed their own supporters on the BoD. (If someone quits, the Board can appoint a new person without an election).

Then other people were pretty peeved at what went on - so they challenged the leadership of the BoD - kind of like a recall vote and lost the challenge. But the dissenters WERE elected to the board when regular elections came around.

Pretty much everyone on the Board of Directors works in their own business, is retired, or has a sole proprietership. DH and I are both office grunts and quite frankly - more used to working WITH people - the whole compromise, give notice, set a meeting agenda, gather support, etc, etc. It's kind of astounding the way things are running.

On top of that the new minister is just OK. He's not really that great. His lessons just don't leave me with much. There is a GREAT minister at another Unity church that seems so much better, but it's 40 minutes away and I just can't drag as all out of the house that early 6 days a week, 5 is bad enough.

So, that's where I'm at right now.
post #34 of 37
Thank you for explaining that for me. I am in the middle of something but I didn't want to read it without responding and thanking you for your time and insight.
post #35 of 37
Ellien, that's definitely rough to have a church that is all about power struggles rather than relaxation and peace. I think it'd be totally worth it for that extra day though. You feel refreshed, connected, at peace once you get there and for awhile afterwards...maybe even the whole rest of the day.
post #36 of 37
Oh, it makes me sad to read all this about this church, but any church in general.

FWIW, we have had nothing but good experiences so far and have even had one friend decide to join us. INterestingly, this friend and I both consider ourselves Buddhist, but love this church so much.

Have been thinking though of joining a weekly Buddhist event. I think I"m scared to base my spiritual community in only one basket so to speak.

I think another thing is taht after DH has worked so long in school administration, that I know a lot about what it takes to run things and how it's not always pretty...so, not that we've seen anything shady, I also realize a lot of sweat, hard work and fairly non-glamourous things almost need to go on to keep the ship running.

I am excited to go to the membership class when they have it though to learn more specifics about all of it.
post #37 of 37
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Anyone seen "What Dreams May Come"? That is the picture of death that I carry with me....and hell too.
Oh, is that the one with Robin Williams? That is totally what I pictured when I tried to envision what I believe heaven and hell to be like. That movie really touched me...
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