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post #1 of 11
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I had my 27 week checkup yesterday, and am now starting my 3 week appointments unstead of 4 weeks. First, baby sounds good, and I PASSED my GTT, which I thought I would because I did last time. Diabetes does run in my family, but its Type 2, so really if you're taking care of yourself, which I am, I shouldn't ever get it.

Anyway, once we got in our midwife's actual exam room some random person with a lab coat comes in and says she's a midwife in training and is going to do the vitals and go over my chart with me. Fine. So she gets done, and tells me I should come back in 3 weeks... Ummmm. Am I going to see my midwife? She says, "If you want, but it will be a little while, she's backed up." To which I reply "I'll wait, I always do." Yeah, I wanted to reply that If I didn't want to see my midwife I'd just cancel the appointment, or switch to another practice, or a myriad of other things and that I want to see my midwife EVERY appointment that I make, not a trainee that I JUST met, especially with my history and advancing pregnancy. Then she tells me that she'll probably be there at the birth. In my head I'm saying "And who gave you permission?"

So 5-10 minutes later my midwife comes in and apologizes for the delay (no biggie.) I ask her point blank if the midwife trainee is taking over for her or if there is something I should know about, and she, thankfully, reassures me that she is still my midwife and that the trainee is not a replacement. I asked her about what the trainee said about being at the birth and she said that the trainee might be there to assist her, and to watch, and give my mw a food break, or let her see a patient or two while I'm in labor. She says that the trainee will only deliver the baby at the client's discretion. I gave her a little look and I think she got the message that I don't want someone I just met delivering the baby.

Next meeting we go over the birth plan, so we'll see how that goes. I'll have to reiterate the part where I say that the ONLY person I want doing vaginal exams is my actual midwife and that I want minimal amount of people attending the birth.

I'm all for training, but I guess I just expected my midwife to come in and ask my permission before just sending in a random person.

So then my midwife tells me that I'm going to have to be on mild bedrest/pelvic rest from about 32 weeks on. She said something about me having to lie on my left side 3x a day for 1 hour and if we can abstain from sex from 32-36 weeks we should. She's going to tell me more next time I see her, but I'm just confused as to what she means by 3x a day. Obviously it makes no sense to wake up and go straight into lying on my left side, because I've already been lying down, and it doesn't make sense for me to do it before I go to bed for the same reason... So anybody have those type of orders? Does it just mean I get up for a few hours, lie down, get up, lie down? Just a little confused.

Anyway, one more thing that's been bothering me is that for the past few sessions mw has been talling me that its a good thing my son came early because I'd have a problem birthing a large baby. My son was 5 lbs 7 oz. So last night I was talking about how I want to keep the baby in as long as possible so its healthy and she AGAIN says that she thinks last birth was devine intervention because I'd have trouble birthing a larger baby. This time I was annoyed and I said, "You know, my mom wasn't a large person and she birthed 2 normal healthy full-term babies." MW says "Yeah, but they weren't large right?" I say I was 6lb 4oz and my brother was 7lb 2oz. She replies that that's not so big and I could do 6lb 4, but 7 is pushing it...

Its just making me so upset that she's saying I might not be able to birth a full-term baby. I know I'm short, and petite, but isn't the female body made to birth a baby? What good does it do to tell me I might not be able to do it? Is she planning on giving me a cesarean if I go on time???? Why is she being so negative when I'm trying trying trying to keep positive?

DH said I should call her and talk to her about it, but I think I'll wait until next meeting. Any words of wisdom mamas on how to broach the subject without just yelling at her? Its really making me second guess myself and feel uneasy about the birth, and last time I gave birth my midwives (of which she was one) NEVER said I couldn't deliver a full-term baby...

Ug.
post #2 of 11
Wow. That's so bogus that your mw is telling you you're too small to give birth to a full-term baby. Your body changes to accomodate the birth, right? your pelvis gets all stretchy before and during labor to allow the head to pass through. You can't tell how stretchy it's going to get until the woman is actually laboring, right? Like you need negativity from the woman who will be attending your birth...

sorry you had a bad appointment.
post #3 of 11
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Anyway, one more thing that's been bothering me is that for the past few sessions mw has been talling me that its a good thing my son came early because I'd have a problem birthing a large baby. My son was 5 lbs 7 oz. So last night I was talking about how I want to keep the baby in as long as possible so its healthy and she AGAIN says that she thinks last birth was devine intervention because I'd have trouble birthing a larger baby. This time I was annoyed and I said, "You know, my mom wasn't a large person and she birthed 2 normal healthy full-term babies." MW says "Yeah, but they weren't large right?" I say I was 6lb 4oz and my brother was 7lb 2oz. She replies that that's not so big and I could do 6lb 4, but 7 is pushing it...

Its just making me so upset that she's saying I might not be able to birth a full-term baby. I know I'm short, and petite, but isn't the female body made to birth a baby? What good does it do to tell me I might not be able to do it? Is she planning on giving me a cesarean if I go on time???? Why is she being so negative when I'm trying trying trying to keep positive?

Ug.


this makes me so mad!

your body will not produce a baby you can't birth. period. i have complete and total faith that, petite or not, you would be able to birth a full-term baby.

that doctors still try to downplay the utter AMAZING qualities of a woman's body by claiming that some woman are just "too small" to birth a baby makes me so frustrated! we are seriously perfect! there is, like, no upper limit to how big we can grow to get a baby out (of course, that's hyperbolic, but you know what i mean)! our entire biology is a complex interplay of factors that make this so!

the types of pelvic "abnormalities" that make it hard to birth a large baby are so rare and have nothing to do with being "petite."

i wish your midwife wasn't planting such seeds of doubt in you! hugs mama! *I* know you can do it!
post #4 of 11
Wow. Frustrating all round!! s

Esp the comment about large baby, etc. I dont think you'd grow it (99%) of the time unless you could birth it. DS was 9 lbs, and I am 5'4, and was 97 lbs when I got pg with him. Close to 10% of my initial body weight.

Maybe you should educate her on relaxin, and what it does to the pelvis.

(Sorry...I don't mean to sound snippy...I'm really getting cranky with this preg!)
post #5 of 11
My very petite, tiny best friend from high school birthed an 8 lb, 11 oz baby with no trouble and little tearing.

First of all, they can't really tell how big the baby is anyway. Second of all, like everyone else is saying, your body is not going to produce a baby it can't birth. That's counter to the laws of natural selection. Is there some concrete information she can provide you about the particular shape of your pelvis that backs up her assertions?

I definitely think you should tell your midwife that you really don't appreciate her negative approach to your birth and that you are choosing not to borrow trouble ahead of time but to *prepare* for the birth, and whatever it may bring. Her attitude is not helpful! You don't want to go to an appointment and hear "you can't do it."

Now I'm disgruntled on your behalf. :
post #6 of 11
I'm sorry about your frustraiting appointment.
I can not imagine a professional having someone who has never been introduced to you, and who you had no ideas was joining the practice, just come in and do a check-up. And then announce that she will be at your birth (I mean, shouldn't you have to conscent to any specific person being there, unless there's some sort of emergency--which there will not be anyway?).
Also, I can't believe and MW would tell a normal, healthy mama (no matter how petite she is) that she could not birh a normal size baby. She should be encouraging you and helping you stay positive.

Do you think she was having some sort of off day, or is she usually like this?
post #7 of 11
That's such a crock! I DO believe that somewhere in the world a woman might grow a baby too large for her body... if that baby is over 14 pounds!

My mom was 5'4 and she delivered a 9+ and an almost 12 pound baby (me!).

I had shoulder dystocia and damage from that, however, I feel if they had known how to flip mom to the right position and the doc hadn't pulled on me so hard (he had a history of babies born with Erbs Palsy from injuries) I would have been fine.

This all would bug me too. Sounds like she's more of a MEDwife than a midwife. A midwife can find food breaks without a replacement... if you're THAT far along that you could deliver while she is gone, then she shouldn't leave!

And seeing other patients is pretty much the same thing... they're nearby in other rooms, right? But if she's THAT busy that she could have several delivering at the same time, I would worry. If you don't mind this other person then fine, but obviously you do!
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I can't respond right now because dd2 just woke up.... Bbl...

post #9 of 11
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You know, normally she is a great midwife. I mean she was wonderful at Matt's birth, kept me from an episiotomy, minimal tearing, very compassionate, you know, what a midwife should do. At that time she was at a practice with 2 other midwives and she was the only one who wasn't an owner of the practice. Shortly after the birth the midwifery practice closed down due to the price of malpractice insurance. 1 midwife retired, 1 took a fairly senior level nurse job on the maternity floor of the hosp I'm giving birth in, and the last, my midwife, got a job as a midwife affiliated with the hospital. Actually, my midwife was the one I had had the least contact with all through the last pregnancy. Most of the time I saw the midwife/owners, and they rotated so you'd get to know them all before the birth. Anyhow, neither of the owner/midwives EVER said anything about me not being able to birth such and such a size baby, and they spent a good 20 minutes talking with me at each session.

I didn't have any hesitation about her being my midwife again for this baby because she was so great the first time. I like her personality, but its really just that 1 thing of her saying I couldn't birth a big baby. I mean, YES, I'm really small at 4'9, but COME ON. Matt came early because he decided he was ready. I'm sure this one will make that decision at the appropriate time and weight. And isn't it head circumference that really matters more than actual gross weight?

Just infuriating.
post #10 of 11
Well...since you have a positive history with her...

But, still!:

If you feel comfortable and want to stick with her, then you'll just have to use some humor...

Whenever she mentions this again, you'll need to finish her sentence with "Yes, if you insist upon hanging me upside down while I'm in labor."

Midwife: There's just no way you can birth a baby this big!
Mama: ...If you insist on hanging me upside down during labor! Otherwise, I'll be fine!
Midwife: I'm serious.
Mama: You're SERIOUSLY going to hang me upside down during labor?!?!
Midwife: What?!
Mama: What?!...Come on now. You studied pelvometry, right? These are "proven hips" and I'll be fine!


Because you will, Mama! You can safely birth any size baby that your body grows!
post #11 of 11
All you need is more worry right? -sigh- I wish I understood why some people say the things they do!
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