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post #41 of 51
It seems like there are two routes to this, and neither involve the school helping you. The principal has made it pretty clear that s/he's not going to do anything. The teachers obviously aren't doing anything to prevent it. If he "tattles" to the playground attendant, trust me, he will just get hit more, where they can't be found out. (And the rest of your family, they aren't supporting you or him, IMO...blaming the victim indeed!)

The first choice, remove him. Don't take him back on Monday. Fill out whatever paperwork you have to do to homeschool, or find another school for him.

The second choice, bully-proof him. If you can't or won't take him out of the situation, he needs skills. Is there anything about his appearance or demeanor that is drawing attention? Fix it. Spend the weekend teaching him how to say, "Don't hit me!" in a very clear, low, forceful voice. Spend the rest of the weekend teaching him how to watch out for situations of being hit, and how to push back. Right now, he's probably feeling victimized and, if he's going to survive the situation, he's got to move past that to a position of power, of thinking, "This is my body, and I will not let people hit me."

Good luck to you both, mama.
post #42 of 51
My vote is for supervee choice #1.

While if you leave him in school, you absolutely must do number 2 - it still has some major issues.
-it may not work
-should he really be left in a place where he has to learn and practice "bully-proofing", and where the adults do not really care about him?

Kathy
post #43 of 51
I would talk to the superintendant's office. What ridiculous behavior on the part of the staff!
And I would also take him out and homeschool him. That is a huge deal breaker for me
post #44 of 51
I would go to the school at recess times with a video camera. It sounds liek this is happening pretty often & it wouldn't take long to catch something, then the school would have no choice but to see that it really happens.

I'd even be inclined to contact the media after letting the teacher, principle, school board & superintendant know in writing.
post #45 of 51

My Two Cents

I've been in this situation, both as a child being attacked and as a parent of a child who is being attacked. Here's what I have learned-

Not getting a child out of such a situation sends a loud and clear message to that child that they are worthless.

School employees will stick together against parents.

Incident reports can be filed away and 'forgotten' about.

Just because no one is talking about it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

My opinion? Get your kid out NOW and get a lawyer. It sounds extreme, but if more people handled school violence this way instead of just sweeping it under the rug or holding their breath and waiting for things to improve, things actually WOULD improve.

I mean...if you hired a live-in babysitter and found out they were physically and mentally abusing your kids, would you continue to pay that sitter or would you have them arrested?
post #46 of 51
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Originally Posted by NeedsTylenol View Post
I've been in this situation, both as a child being attacked and as a parent of a child who is being attacked. Here's what I have learned-

Not getting a child out of such a situation sends a loud and clear message to that child that they are worthless.

School employees will stick together against parents.

Incident reports can be filed away and 'forgotten' about.

Just because no one is talking about it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

My opinion? Get your kid out NOW and get a lawyer. It sounds extreme, but if more people handled school violence this way instead of just sweeping it under the rug or holding their breath and waiting for things to improve, things actually WOULD improve.

I mean...if you hired a live-in babysitter and found out they were physically and mentally abusing your kids, would you continue to pay that sitter or would you have them arrested?
post #47 of 51
The actions of the child AND the teacher's response are 100% completely unacceptable and I would be in the prinicpal's office asap tomorrow morning and I wouldn't leave til it was resolved. Period.
post #48 of 51
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the responses.It helps a little to talk about this,and figure out what to do.IRL it seems as if everyone has closed up,and no longer wants to hear there is a problem.Being the *only parent to complaint* I am being viewed now as some sort of control-freak mom. I am pro-hs,so maybe people think I am *looking* for a problem,but really I would be happy for the kids if they are happy.No reason I still can't provide lessons outside of school. Dh is gone most of the time(with work),and grandma is an hour away,so it leaves me to deal with this daily.

I would love to pull ds,but he actually wants to remain in ps.I spoke with someone from an ATA martial arts school,and I will sign him up there so he has some confidence building.Lol, I think I need some building up as well to deal with the district and my family!

After I drop the kids off I will look for the board of education to get a copy of the district anti-bully policy...if they even have one.All I got so far was a student handbook. I found a model policy online for Ohio,and was just wondering what the difference is with a formal and informal complaint.Does anyone see a difference? I have written 3 letters so far.One to the teacher,and 2 to the principal regarding ds being pushed,hit,grabbed,and knocked down. I can not tell if they are formal or informal.Ok, I think I see it now.Formal is student or parent,and informal just says student complaint.

http://www.ebasedprevention.org/pdf/...v03_051407.pdf

<<<<i.Formal Complaints

Students and/or their parents or guardians may file reports of conduct that they consider to be bullying. Such written reports shall be reasonably specific as to the actions giving rise to the suspicion of bullying, including person(s) involved, time and place of the conduct alleged, the number of such incidents, the target of such suspected bullying, and the names of any potential student or staff witnesses. Such reports may be filed with any school staff member or administrator, and they shall be promptly forwarded to the Building Principal for review and action in accordance with Section VI.


C. Informal Complaints

Students may make informal complaints of conduct that they consider to be bullying by verbal report to a teacher or administrator. Such informal complaints shall be reasonably specific as to the actions giving rise to the suspicion of bullying, including person(s) involved, time and place of the conduct alleged, the number of such incidents, the target of such suspected bullying, and the names of any potential student or staff witness. A school staff member or administrator who receives an informal complaint shall promptly reduce the complaint to writing, including the information provided. Such written report by the school staff member and/or administrator shall be promptly forwarded to the Building Principal for review and action in accordance with Section VI.

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I did go up to the school at recess time on Friday.I have many times before.Can not go on the property,but I watch from the road even though parking is illegal. If ds is on the black top area(k and 2g kids are seperated) I can not see him.Friday 2g kids were on the playground so I did not see ds,but dd did see me and waved.I was there just 5 minutes or less,and I did see a boy jump and head lock/choke a boy.It certainly did not look like that boy was having fun. So I don't care what the principal says-bullying is happening at his school,but no one wants to talk about it.

I am starting to look into local charter and private schools.He is only 5 so I could pull and start him in K at 6 somewhere else.That or hsing would be what I want at this point.

The sitter example is good.I certainly can not think of any situation where we would continue to send our kids into a place where they get emotionally/phyisically traumatized. I am probably going to get that book Bullycide in America.Though it is typically older kids in the story most dealt with bullying early on.I remember reading a new study on K bullying,and it went on to say that kids that were bullied in K tend to be bullied throughout their school years. I have mentioned this study over and over,but no one seems to get the implications of what I am saying...nip this in the bud now or my child could be a bullycide statistic in a few years.
post #49 of 51
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Originally Posted by mattemma04 View Post
Can not go on the property,
This would concern me.

Looks like the difference is that if parents make a complaint, it's formal....only students can make informal complaints. ?
post #50 of 51

Have you considered volunteering as a playground monitor?

mattemma04,
If you have the time to volunteer at recess I think that it would give you a much clearer picture of what is going on. Additionally, having one more set of eyes on the playground would probably be a deterrent to this kind of behavior.

Depending upon what you observe and the Teachers' response, or lack thereof, you might want to keep notes.

However, if you are lucky the mere fact that you are there may resolve the issue. You might lose the satisfaction of being vindicated but I sense that you are (rightly so) much more concerned about your son's wellbeing ... and that of other potential victims.

Stay strong and continue to be an advocate for your son.

Good luck.
post #51 of 51
mattemma04, if you're leaving him in school for now, you need to document every single incident. Write down dates and a description of the incidents as well as the school's response (or lack thereof). Contact the school and teacher via email. Then you have a written trail of what happened to your son each time (one email per day/incident) and what the school's response to you is. If you end up having to go to the school superintendent with a lawyer, you will absolutely need this documentation. Plus, having things in writing makes it easier to formulate a response to asinine comments such as what you've encountered.

I highly doubt you're really the only one who's complained about bullying. And even if you are, that's no reason to feel that you shouldn't pursue it. If even one child is being bullied, that's a problem.

Keep your main concern in mind. Is it that you want the school to fulfill its duty to keep your child safe? Then formulate your actions around that concern. When you talk to the school, keep turning the issue back to them. Keep asking them specifically what are they going to do to keep your child (and the other Ks) safe? What are they doing to ensure there's adequate supervision? If they respond that your son is hitting too, you can acknowledge that of course you don't want anyone hitting. That's why you're so concerned about adequate supervision.
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