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post #41 of 102
And please explain the spoon feeding. DD is now feeding herself with a spoon (soups, yogurt, cereal, stews, etc). That's doesn't satisfy a sucking need, so I'm confused about that.
post #42 of 102
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Originally Posted by North_Of_60 View Post
And please explain the spoon feeding. DD is now feeding herself with a spoon (soups, yogurt, cereal, stews, etc). That's doesn't satisfy a sucking need, so I'm confused about that.
It's not "developmentally appropriate" for a child to be spoonfed. Apparently some people believe a child cannot tell you when they have had enough when you spoonfeed them, thus in turn leading to obese, Mickey D loving 10 yr olds with juvenile diabetes later in life.
post #43 of 102
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Originally Posted by North_Of_60 View Post
And please explain the spoon feeding. DD is now feeding herself with a spoon (soups, yogurt, cereal, stews, etc). That's doesn't satisfy a sucking need, so I'm confused about that.
Self feeding with a spoon is not the issue. It can be problematic when a parent spoon feeds a baby or toddler because the parent often encourages the child to eat more than he would on his own. Babies and toddlers that are spoon fed jars of baby-food or rice cereal sometimes fill up more than they would if they were feeding themselves baby food, and that can lead to nursing less. I am not saying that the case in this situation, it's just one of the things you look at.
post #44 of 102
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Originally Posted by sunnysideup View Post
Babies and toddlers that are spoon fed jars of baby-food or rice cereal sometimes fill up more than they would if they were feeding themselves baby food, and that can lead to nursing less.
I guess that makes sense, but I've never really understood the idea that spoon feeding is on par with over feeding. We've never really fed purees because we just didn't see their need (ready to eat = ready to feed themselves) but that doesn't mean she has never eaten off a spoon. I just can't help but that think one would have to be pretty out of the touch with their kid to not know they're done eating.
post #45 of 102
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Originally Posted by North_Of_60 View Post
And please explain the spoon feeding. DD is now feeding herself with a spoon (soups, yogurt, cereal, stews, etc). That's doesn't satisfy a sucking need, so I'm confused about that.
Sure! I meant mom spoon feeding. As an adult tends to put food in faster than a toddler would on their own, they tend to get MORE in than the toddler really needs. Spoon feeding CAN fill the toddler up with solids too much. It's something to consider for nursing strikes.

-Angela
post #46 of 102
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Originally Posted by sunnysideup View Post
Self feeding with a spoon is not the issue. It can be problematic when a parent spoon feeds a baby or toddler because the parent often encourages the child to eat more than he would on his own. Babies and toddlers that are spoon fed jars of baby-food or rice cereal sometimes fill up more than they would if they were feeding themselves baby food, and that can lead to nursing less. I am not saying that the case in this situation, it's just one of the things you look at.
What about trusting your child to know when they are done? I know if my kids don't want to eat, they will simply *not* eat, no matter how many times I could try to airplane a spoon towards their mouths. And I am sure there are some kids who can't for whatever reason, use a spoon or their fingers to self feed, even when it is developmentally appropriate for them to be eating solids. There's generally an exception to the rule. :
post #47 of 102
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Self feeding with a spoon is not the issue. It can be problematic when a parent spoon feeds a baby or toddler because the parent often encourages the child to eat more than he would on his own. Babies and toddlers that are spoon fed jars of baby-food or rice cereal sometimes fill up more than they would if they were feeding themselves baby food, and that can lead to nursing less. I am not saying that the case in this situation, it's just one of the things you look at.


-Angela
post #48 of 102
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Originally Posted by North_Of_60 View Post
I just can't help but that think one would have to be pretty out of the touch with their kid to not know they're done eating.
It is entirely possible that every single mom I've ever watched spoon feed babies was very out of touch with their kid.

-Angela
post #49 of 102
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What about trusting your child to know when they are done? I know if my kids don't want to eat, they will simply *not* eat, no matter how many times I could try to airplane a spoon towards their mouths. And I am sure there are some kids who can't for whatever reason, use a spoon or their fingers to self feed, even when it is developmentally appropriate for them to be eating solids. There's generally an exception to the rule. :
Babies who are spoon fed from early on seem to be conditioned to keep opening their mouths. I suppose it's possible that I've seen a lot of exceptions

-Angela
post #50 of 102
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
It is entirely possible that every single mom I've ever watched spoon feed babies was very out of touch with their kid.

-Angela
Wow. I really don't know what to say...well, yeah, I do, but there's a UA, and I'm sure the mods are sick of sending me warnings, so NM....
post #51 of 102
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Babies who are spoon fed from early on seem to be conditioned to keep opening their mouths. -Angela
Isn't that what one generally does when there is food by their mouths and they are hungry?
post #52 of 102
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Isn't that what one generally does when there is food by their mouths and they are hungry?
I was responding to the bolded below:


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What about trusting your child to know when they are done? I know if my kids don't want to eat, they will simply *not* eat, no matter how many times I could try to airplane a spoon towards their mouths. And I am sure there are some kids who can't for whatever reason, use a spoon or their fingers to self feed, even when it is developmentally appropriate for them to be eating solids. There's generally an exception to the rule. :
Once more- children who I have observed, who have been spoon fed from early on, seem to be conditioned to keep opening up when they are full, because mom says so in some form or fashion.

Again, could simply be the selection of children I've observed

-Angela
post #53 of 102
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
It is entirely possible that every single mom I've ever watched spoon feed babies was very out of touch with their kid.
What did it look like? Because in my mind I'm picturing someone continuing to push spoon fulls in while food dribbles out the corner of the mouth. The concept of someone force feeding their child, which is essentially what you're implying, just escapes me.

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Once more- children who I have observed, who have been spoon fed from early on, seem to be conditioned to keep opening up when they are full, because mom says so in some form or fashion.
So the child is full, but continues to eat because of praise and encouragement from mom? DD wouldn't roll over, crawl, walk, talk, throw a ball, unless she was ready to, but gosh darnit, if I held a spoon in front of her face she'd all of a sudden be like a well trained puppy? :

Maybe I was just blessed with an easy to read baby (for what little spoon feeding we did), or maybe I've just never witnessed said conditioning, but this just doesn't compute... and I'm all for self feeding.
post #54 of 102
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Originally Posted by North_Of_60 View Post
What did it look like? Because in my mind I'm picturing someone continuing to push spoon fulls in while food dribbles out the corner of the mouth. The concept of someone force feeding their child, which is essentially what you're implying, just escapes me.
Well, the perfect example was when I watched SIL shovel 3 jars into her 5mo.

Babe was in a carseat. Mom would scoop, use spoon to pry mouth, empty spoon, scoop, use spoon to pry mouth, empty spoon repeat until 3 jars were empty. Yep- There was food dribbling. She'd scoop it off of her face and shovel it back in. Baby was reclined so gravity was against her. The 3 jars were done in well under 15 minutes. Probably closer to 10.

This child was conditioned to open her mouth no matter what. As she got older, it was easy to see subtle signs that she was full (turning head etc) Mom chased her down and put food in. She often had to hold down baby's hands to do this.

Like I said (honestly wasn't being snarky) it's quite possible that the examples I've seen were moms who were very out of touch with their children.

-Angela
post #55 of 102
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Originally Posted by North_Of_60 View Post
So the child is full, but continues to eat because of praise and encouragement from mom? DD wouldn't roll over, crawl, walk, talk, throw a ball, unless she was ready to, but gosh darnit, if I held a spoon in front of her face she'd all of a sudden be like a well trained puppy? :

Maybe I was just blessed with an easy to read baby (for what little spoon feeding we did), or maybe I've just never witnessed said conditioning, but this just doesn't compute... and I'm all for self feeding.
Yep. Said niece above does what she can to get positive responses from her parents. Sadly does what she can to get ANY responses from her parents.

They CAN be conditioned. It DOES happen.

And this is an educated mom. She really thinks she's doing what's best. If you asked her she would insist she does follow cues.

-Angela
post #56 of 102
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
Well, the perfect example was when I watched SIL shovel 3 jars into her 5mo.

Babe was in a carseat. Mom would scoop, use spoon to pry mouth, empty spoon, scoop, use spoon to pry mouth, empty spoon repeat until 3 jars were empty. Yep- There was food dribbling. She'd scoop it off of her face and shovel it back in. Baby was reclined so gravity was against her. The 3 jars were done in well under 15 minutes. Probably closer to 10.

This child was conditioned to open her mouth no matter what. As she got older, it was easy to see subtle signs that she was full (turning head etc) Mom chased her down and put food in. She often had to hold down baby's hands to do this.

Like I said (honestly wasn't being snarky) it's quite possible that the examples I've seen were moms who were very out of touch with their children.

-Angela


Well, now I certainly don't feel so bad about the occasional 4 ounce jar DD finished in a day or two. LOL
post #57 of 102
Even "airplaning" the spoon can be encouraging a baby or toddler to eat more than they normally would, and the parents that spoon feed often "good job," coo and otherwise encourage their child to eat more than they would if they were eating on their own. As I said before, spoon feeding does not always interfere with nursing, but it can. It's one thing you look at when you're having a breastfeeding issue.
post #58 of 102
And isn't reclining and eating really dangerous? Dang, I wouldn't even eat laid back in the recliner, never mind my kid!
post #59 of 102
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Originally Posted by North_Of_60 View Post


Well, now I certainly don't feel so bad about the occasional 4 ounce jar DD finished in a day or two. LOL
Yeah.... It can be BAD.

I really meant it when I said that I may just be observing the worst of the worst...

But they DO exist. (in larger numbers than I'm comfortable with- that's for sure)

-Angela
post #60 of 102
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Originally Posted by North_Of_60 View Post
And isn't reclining and eating really dangerous? Dang, I wouldn't even eat laid back in the recliner, never mind my kid!
Yeah, well... seems to me to not be brilliant... but follow mainstream thinking- they make high chairs that recline, don't they?

-Angela
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