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Poll Results: Santa Claus: yes or no

 
  • 61% (164)
    Yes
  • 27% (75)
    No
  • 10% (29)
    Other (not sure of what an other might be, but I'm sure someone has one!)
268 Total Votes  
post #81 of 160
nope! we celebrate Christmas but as time of giving and sharing. DS only hears about Santa from his grandparents, but it's not bad, they just ask the standard "Are you excited for Santa coming?" stuff. Last year DS#1 didn't seem to even care or notice the idea of Santa, I'm hoping it stays the same this year.

We don't mention Santa mainly because we are Wiccan and celebrate Yule. I was not raised with a religion and DP hasn't been to church in a decade so it doesn't make sense to us to celebrate the holiday as the birth of Christ or the big ole man in the red suit either! (not equating the two, just mentioning the two most popular reasons for celebrating it) I also had a pretty traumatic experience when I realized there wasn't a Santa and although I know won't recreate that for my kids for a number of reasons I still didn't want to have to explain why there wasn't a Santa at some point.
post #82 of 160
...nevermind. I'm not with it today. I was confused because DH's family is Jewish, but not religious, and they always did Santa, but they did Hannakuh too. Confusing, sorry. So yeah nevermind.
post #83 of 160
Santa up until last year when we started celebrating Yule, cause I don't believe in god or the whole theory about Christmas from a religious standpoint. Just one more converted holiday taken over to control the heathens. It makes me want to grind my teeth when I see all the "Jesus is the reason for the season" Grrrr. Something that rubs me the wrong way I guess, cause alot of people KNOW he wasnt born on Christmas, yet perpetuate the lie and celebrate it!
post #84 of 160
YES!!!!! I can't imagine Christmas without Santa Claus and of COURSE we will have Santa come every year. There is already lots of talk about his arrival and it's only September!
post #85 of 160
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
Yes. I think magic is wonderful

-Angela
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I want ds to grow up beleiving in fairies and elfs and trolls and gnomes. I will do all I can to maintain that wonderful illusion and extend his magical childhood.
post #86 of 160
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Originally Posted by caeden&connersmom View Post
Santa up until last year when we started celebrating Yule, cause I don't believe in god or the whole theory about Christmas from a religious standpoint. Just one more converted holiday taken over to control the heathens. It makes me want to grind my teeth when I see all the "Jesus is the reason for the season" Grrrr. Something that rubs me the wrong way I guess, cause alot of people KNOW he wasnt born on Christmas, yet perpetuate the lie and celebrate it!
Actually, I associate santa more with my pagen beleifs than jesus. Why not try having him come on Kris Kringel Tag, which is December 6? That's how the germans do it! Christmas is about jesus, kris kringel tag is about gifts & elves & majik.
post #87 of 160
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Originally Posted by hklinefelter22 View Post
Actually, I associate santa more with my pagen beleifs than jesus. Why not try having him come on Kris Kringel Tag, which is December 6? That's how the germans do it! Christmas is about jesus, kris kringel tag is about gifts & elves & majik.
Oh absoultely! Plus we have *our* celebration on Yule and then *regular* Christmas on Dec 25th (When my mom comes over with gobs of stuff for the boys) : She still gives me gifts from Santa! I guess I feel as long as our kids know what we do and why, they can have one day of fun and placate my mother! They know Santa is not real! (Moreso becasue they would freak out at the thought of some fat guy in a red suit creeping around our house at night!)

Last year we went out and found our yule log and its packed away for his year, and I told the boys why we had it and tried to give them more information on why we were doing it, I made wreaths from branches from our evergreens, decorated with things we found outside. (My oldest is 6 and loves that we celebrate nature)
post #88 of 160
I voted other. We do Santa Claus but the kids know it's really us. They still get a big kick out of it! We talked about the whole santa thing when our dd was small and this is what we came up with, it's all the fun with none of the lying (I'm seriously not saying that in a judgmental way, my tone is very light hearted).

When I found out (I was pretty young) Santa wasn't real it really was just another let down, another way the adults in my life betrayed me but my childhood sucked. My dh also felt upset hewas lied to but again his family life wasn't the best and I think there was already a lack of trust there. Of course our experiences are one of the reasons we decided to do the santa thing like we do. Yikes didn't mean to get so heavy.
That said I do think in healthy families Santa can be a lot of fun and it won't be tramatic when the kids find out he's not real.
post #89 of 160
Yes, we do Santa, because it's fun.

We don't use Santa as a threat or a bargaining tool, though, and I tell DD that some people don't believe in Santa, and that he does not go to all kids' houses, and that it does not have anything to do with being "good" or "bad".
post #90 of 160
no santa here,but lots of fun.
post #91 of 160
No, I don't think so. DS is 4 months old, so I can't say for sure.

We want to take the materialism and consumerism out of Christmas, and IME, the Santa thing perpetuates this. We do gifts but they are from family, not a guy in a red suit who seems to exist only to give 'good kids' more stuff : .

We'll talk about St. Nick and giving and thankfulness, and respect for those who believe in Santa, of course. We're Christian and will focus on the religious reason for Christmas, but we're skipping Santa for cultural (materialism, etc) reasons, not religious ones.
post #92 of 160
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Originally Posted by USAmma View Post
Yes, with hesitation. We were not going to, and my dd picked it up all on her own. My grandparents encourage it. For their sake (the kids and the grandparents who are very old and precious to us) we are going to do it. But we are not going overboard with it, either.
That's me, too. I wouldn't do it, myself. And if I were still in Brooklyn, living in the middle of a conservative Jewish community, it wouldn't be an issue. As a nominally Xtian, mostly lapsed Catholic person, I'd probably have celebrated Xmas in a very low-key kind of way--possibly going to mass and whatnot--and wouldn't be inclined to "do" Santa.

However, I'm now in Oregon, near my father's family, and we celebrate Xmas together, and they're very into the Santa thing. Since I moved out here specifically so that my son could have them in his life, I'm just going with the flow vis Xmas. They all have fun with it, the grandparents and kids.

I am working on them, though, to please tone it down a bit. For Sprogly's recent birthday, I asked for low-key, no plastic, no batteries, and no cheap made-in-China stuff, with the emphasis on LOW-KEY. For once, they listened--what a relief, not to have to get rid of anything afterwards! So for this Xmas I plan to lobby hard for simplicity. That'll be an uphill battle, because Sprogly's cousins are a little older, and they have certain expectations. One of his cousins gets so many gifts from her other grandparents that their garage is full of unopened toys, sometimes even more than one of a particular toy, because they forgot that they already gave her one. It's obscene.

Anyway. Santa Claus. I'd like it to be a no, but it's not. I'm just doing my best to keep it simple, and I am not talking about Santa a lot, and if I do, I'm speaking of a fun, pretend character.
post #93 of 160
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
Yes. I think magic is wonderful

-Angela
I agree. And the "lie" about it did not harm me at all. I was a bit put off by finding out he was not real at first but then realized it had been really fun and I missed it. I got more presents when I still believed in him and the holiday season was more magical then. So, we do it and have a blast.
post #94 of 160
we do santa but an extremely downsized version than either of us grew up with. dd asks santa for 1 special present. we don't make a big deal about it. this year, we'll talk more about the spirit of Christmas (she's 4)- we'll get more into that & less into santa as she gets older. both my family & dh's family are extremely into Christmas, so they're a big part of the reason we do santa.
post #95 of 160
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
Yes. I think magic is wonderful

-Angela
Word!

This is a hot button issue for me. It's none of my business what you tell your kids about Xmas but it bothers me on a very deep level that parents would be so concerned with "focusing" on the religion of the holiday that they would deprive their kids of a sweet, innocent and magical part of life. The christmas season can be about many things and for many people (even some christians) it is a focus on FAMILY and TRADITION which include Santa and the reindeer and whatnot.

It's such a huge part of my life and our winter season....I cannot imagine NOT giving my kids that gift.
post #96 of 160
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Originally Posted by Pynki View Post
Technically... Jesus is the CHRISTIAN reason for the season. Yule is just as valid, as are any number of the feasts that traditionally happened at that time of year.
Thank you. I sort of grit my teeth whenever I read/hear that phrase. It might be the reason for YOUR season but just as you think Santa is not "real"....well...you know what I'm getting at.

Sorry. Totally OT and I apologize. I just had to make note of this.
post #97 of 160
We are a Jewish atheist house and we do santa

It is a totally American secular thing and the kids think it's fun. We don't go crazy with it though, we don't really "celebrate" those kind of holidays, but we do the stockings and cookies and milk thing. Oh, and of course carrots for the reindeer.
post #98 of 160
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Originally Posted by Stinkerbell View Post
This is a hot button issue for me. It's none of my business what you tell your kids about Xmas but it bothers me on a very deep level that parents would be so concerned with "focusing" on the religion of the holiday that they would deprive their kids of a sweet, innocent and magical part of life. The christmas season can be about many things and for many people (even some christians) it is a focus on FAMILY and TRADITION which include Santa and the reindeer and whatnot.
*ahem* not all of us choose to forego telling our children that santa is real because of religious convictions. I can see that this is a "hot button" for you, but good grief - that came across REALLY judgmental. So what if some people focus on the religious part? For some people it is a very religious holiday. FWIW - I remember Christmas as a very magical time of year - putting up the tree, the snow over the Christmas lights, making fudge with my mom, coming home from school to smell the most wonderful holiday smells, putting cloves in oranges and hanging them all over the house, the candles, the carols. Actually, the only part I remember as annoying and lacking in magic was the santa part. I loved the santa part so much more once I could stop pretending that I thought it was real. The family time, the beautiful decorations, the songs, etc. - these are all magical parts of Christmas. Nobody has to "do" santa to have a magical Christmas.

p.s. Those of us who don't "do" santa get just as sick of hearing about how it's taking away the magic.
post #99 of 160
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
Yes. I think magic is wonderful

-Angela
you said it perfect!

I try and word it carefully and when questions come up I don't lie about it. Ds asked a lot of questions one year, I didn't want to tell him he was real, but I didn't want to outright tell him he wasn't real, I wanted him to figure it out for himself. It did take a bit into the conversation for him to get my cryptic answers. I don't think he resents it at all, he's excited to work santa into Christmas for dd.

IMO Christmas on the 25th is a cultural holiday, to spread joy and sharing. I take Easter more seriously when it comes to my religion, but for me it's metaphorical, so I'm not offended by the easter bunny or anything.
post #100 of 160
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Originally Posted by ColoradoMama View Post
*snip* I remember Christmas as a very magical time of year - putting up the tree, the snow over the Christmas lights, making fudge with my mom, coming home from school to smell the most wonderful holiday smells, putting cloves in oranges and hanging them all over the house, the candles, the carols. Actually, the only part I remember as annoying and lacking in magic was the santa part. I loved the santa part so much more once I could stop pretending that I thought it was real. The family time, the beautiful decorations, the songs, etc. - these are all magical parts of Christmas. Nobody has to "do" santa to have a magical Christmas.
*snip*
good point.
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