Sadams Sons

[El Casey S]

300 troops fighting for 6 hours to kill 4 guys (and one was a boy) and in the end they have to call in the bombs - I know - it must have been a very unique situation, but it sounds like a comedy. And Bush is praising it - talk about SPIN DOCTOR!

[Jennifer Z]

Are they "for sure" dead this time? The spin is shameful, but I just can't help but question if they are actually gone this time.

[El Casey S]

"Trust but verify . . . "

And still, I don't trust : :ignore Ah what to do Jennifer - I know where you are coming from!:

[CollegeMama]

I saw on the news this morning that they are planning to release pictures of the dead bodies to prove it to everyone.
I didn't realize it took them 6 hours and 300 troops though! I shouldn't be surprised that they aren't saying anything about that on the mainstream news in my town.

[merpk]

I saw on the networks last night ... CBS and PBS ... that it took a six-hour firefight and a whole [what, division? battalion? don't know the word] and they found four people dead.

Sounds like the mainstream news is reporting it to me.

It might be added that we don't know how many people were originally in there with them, and we don't know how many weapons they had with how much ammunition. Obviously one whole heck of a lot. Well, ammunition, anyway.

The child was apparently the son of one of the sons. 14 years old.

[mamaduck]

Are you serious?? A FOURTEEN year old????

Nightmare. Can you even imagine how terrified that boy must feel!

Where is his mother?

[El Casey S]

Yeah - It is really beyond my comprehension to follow the mentality of someone jumping up and down and holloring with joy that someone(s) is/are dead . . . I'm just lost to that - sorry. Regardless of how horrible - it is still somehow solemn to me - in the case of Saddam & his sons - I am sadden at the thought of all the evil those lives did - it strikes me hard - but to rejoice seems so bizarre :

[Jennifer Z]

I agree, I have never understood how people could rejoice at the death of another. Especially a child.

[CollegeMama]

Originally posted by merpk
I saw on the networks last night ... CBS and PBS ... that it took a six-hour firefight and a whole [what, division? battalion? don't know the word] and they found four people dead.

Sounds like the mainstream news is reporting it to me.

It might be added that we don't know how many people were originally in there with them, and we don't know how many weapons they had with how much ammunition. Obviously one whole heck of a lot. Well, ammunition, anyway.

The child was apparently the son of one of the sons. 14 years old.

I live in an extremely conservative city. EXTREMELY! Also, it was the 5:30 a.m. news I was watching, so the coverage might not have been as detailed. And...the spin doctors may have gotten ahold of the media by the time I saw the reports this morning.

Yes, I heard on NPR that there was a 14-year-old boy that was among the dead. I feel sadness for everyone who's lost their life and I also wonder about the validity of it all.

And slightly T...where's Osama Bin Laden? Isn't he the one we're supposed to be worried about? I don't understand why there's not an outcry to catch him?

[alie]

Its interesting the timing of this; I wonder if they will "find" saddam hussein right before the next election? The sway was certainly going against bush. now all of a sudden, he's cool again. interesting. we are no longer talking about the deficits, the amazing amounts of money being spent on this debacle. Now everyone is cheering over a pretty ludicrous and insane action. The mob mentality at work, I guess.

[MFuglei]

Originally posted by El Casey S
Yeah - It is really beyond my comprehension to follow the mentality of someone jumping up and down and holloring with joy that someone(s) is/are dead . . . I'm just lost to that - sorry. Regardless of how horrible - it is still somehow solemn to me - in the case of Saddam & his sons - I am sadden at the thought of all the evil those lives did - it strikes me hard - but to rejoice seems so bizarre :

I agree. I can't get past the fact that, since I became a mother all I think is -- those men were someone's babies at one point. Yes, perhaps they were evil doers and maybe killing them prevented a whole lot of needless suffering, but have some respect for the sanctity of life.

Silence is the only reaction I can have, I guess.

[JessicaS]

I don't think anyone was feeling sorry for Saddam's sons. There were comments about the 14 year old (Saddam's grandson?) but that was it.

[Delta]

The reason it took so long, with so many forces, was because they were TRYING to avoid killing them. Taking them capture would have been a wonderful intelligence boon.

However, the US forces were not going to risk even one of their soldiers' lives for the sons', which is why they took their time and had so much support.

They could have dropped a few 4K bombs on the building immediately and that would have gotten rid of them instantly, but that's not what they wanted to do. They killed the boy after they entered the building (when the other 3 were dead) because he was firing at them.

Regardless, dead or alive, they are not a threat to the Iraqi people anymore.

[El Casey S]

move along folks . . . there's nothing here.

[journeymom]

I can only speak for myself, so I'll say that while I'm not dancing in the street (not my style), I am genuinely happy that those two men are gone forever and can sadistically torture and murder people no more.

The 14 y.o. boy's death is a tragedy. He could still have been an innocent. Though children younger than that have been used in armies all over the world. US troops are warned not to assume these kids are harmless. Some have been trained to be killers, and some are used to get personnel off their guard. We don't know one way or another about that kid.

[journeymom]

I find it emotional blackmail, insulting and disgusting.

How so?

[mahdokht]

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[MFuglei]

Originally posted by Nursing Mother


...and some of you are feeling sorry for THEM.

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I think rejoicing is in order, especially for the victims of these guys. Gloating is not in order imo.

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." Ghandi

Rejoicing at the death of ANY HUMAN BEING is, in my opinion, one step down the road to being as awful and inhumane as these men. We have managed to take all humanity out of them -- they have done bad things - YES, I'm not denying that. Like I said before, the world is probably a better place with them NOT in it. . . but that doesn't mean I should be happy that another human being has died.

I am sad they are dead. I'm saddened that their death will save other people's lives because the Saddam boys did bad things. I'm saddened by the whole situation. That doesn't make me a Saddam supporter.

[Delta]

I don't know that people are celebrating their *deaths* as much as they are celebrating what it means for the Iraqi people.

[El Casey S]

Originally posted by Delta
I don't know that people are celebrating their *deaths* as much as they are celebrating what it means for the Iraqi people.

You are right - you don't know why they are celebrating - and I can imagine that there would be a thousand good reasons . . . ding dong the witch is dead . . . only a percentage would be celebrating for the reason you mentioned - how are their deaths really changing the effects of the war/post war experience - minimally - but it is still beyond ME to fathom people rejoicing over any death - and to be accused of "sympathizing with the devil" because I cannot fathom the rejoicing over a lost soul - is insulting, disgusting, and the lowest form of ignorant, emotional blackmailing that I know of. How can anyone (especially who consider themselves Christian) consider it really OK to rejoice over deaths? I cry at the waste of their lives that they had while they were still alive - and the waste after their death - or I am struck silent with the overwhelming nature of it all - but I cannot imagine rejoicing ove the death of someone - that seems so cold-hearted.