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post #1 of 5
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Ds has been potty trained (day trained) for about a year now. He's NEVER had accidents except in the car or when out and even that's been at least 6+ mos ago. All of a sudden he is peeing everywhere. On the couch, carpet, on a teddy bear. I know most would say it's a response to dd being born but I really don't believe so. He has done SO well with her. He has never shown any signs of being jealous at all. No anger, no frustration, nothing. He loves to talk to her, hug her, see her, etc. He freaks out if we leave the house without her.

I believe it is a response to stress in the house between dh and I and his job. Lately dh is a walking black hole of negative energy. That in turn is causing issues between us. Not to mention dh says nothing positive to ds and when he does respond to him it's usually with annoyance. Dh has stopped playing with ds. I've done all I can do with dh. He's got depression issues and some other things that I just can not help him with. He's got to work it out on his own. I've told him that ds is most likely responding to these issues but at the moment I don't think dh cares

Honestly my heart is just breaking over the whole situation because I can't imagine how bad my ds must suddenly be feeling with dh going from being a caring fun dad to a cynical mean one. I know he must be confused.

Anyways, right now I just put a diaper on him. I don't know what else to do. I am visiting my mom & dad with the kids at the end of October for 1.5 weeks and I am thinking of going earlier? Maybe I should be getting the kids out of this environment? It's not going to get any better for at least the next 6 weeks (which is how long the added stresser of dh's job is going to be). I told him after that we should probably do some marriage counseling although really I just want him to see someone and I need someone to open his eyes to how he is parenting and what he's missing out on. It's not helping that dh is deploying again soon so we'll barely get started and then have it interupted.

For right now I need help with the pottying issue. I can't afford to be buying him diapers and frankly I don't want to be diapering a 3.5 yr old kid.

Oh and I've talked with ds about it. When I ask where he should have peed he says "I don't know." When I tell him it should go in the potty he says, "No." When I ask why he says, "I don't know how." I told him next time he has to go just tell me and we'll go in there together and I'll show him and he says, "no, you showed me yesterday, I don't know how." (and no, I didn't show him yesterday). He FREAKED out about putting a diaper on but I can't be cleaning up pee stains all over my furniture, plus with dh doing this training thing he's basically not home and when he is he's doing homework so I have a lot more to do in a day than I used to (he always did all the housework).
post #2 of 5
I have 2 observations that *might* help....first, I noticed that with my DD who is 3.75 and some of her other friends, they are starting to have accidents (no new siblings)...so I am wondering if it is a growth thing and their bladders have suddenly gotten bigger so it's harder to get "that feeling" when they have to go? I dunno just a theory but it seems so common at this age that I think it might be developmental.

Second, while it might be the stress between you and your husband, I was more interested in this:

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Originally Posted by Shelsi View Post
He has done SO well with her. He has never shown any signs of being jealous at all. No anger, no frustration, nothing. He loves to talk to her, hug her, see her, etc. He freaks out if we leave the house without her.

Do you think maybe he is repressing alot of his emotions about the adjustment? Everything I've read talks about how kids have intense jealousy with the arrival of the 2nd kid...my DD had a very hard time the first 3-6 months with her new brother. But I just took the acting out in stride and assumed it was part of her adjustment.

I also did lots of playful parenting with her where I let her say mean things about her "baby" dolls and treat them badly (instead of the real baby!) and I tried to give her words for her feelings. I remember one time when she was melting down over nothing and I just started saying what I *imagined* she felt "You hate the baby. You wish it would go away. You want it just to be mommy and you. You are so angry. you want to hit the baby..." etc and it was AMAZING. She just gave me this big puppy dog look and I could see her totally relax to see that I understood how she felt. That was the day things started to get better between her and the baby.

I dunno I guess that experience made me realize how strong a child's emotions are and how they just can't express them. Maybe your son is afraid that if he shows how upset he is, you won't love him anymore? So maybe it's coming out in other ways? I think every child is probably different in how they handle things so maybe he is just someone who holds it all in? Maybe if you do some playing with him and give him permission to have all those yucky feelings, the potty stuff will improve?

Well dunno if that's helpful, but the book Playful Parenting is really a good one on how to get those "uncomfortable" feelings out so they aren't popping up in other behavior....

good luck
peace,
robyn
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Originally Posted by hippymomma69 View Post
I have 2 observations that *might* help....first, I noticed that with my DD who is 3.75 and some of her other friends, they are starting to have accidents (no new siblings)...so I am wondering if it is a growth thing and their bladders have suddenly gotten bigger so it's harder to get "that feeling" when they have to go? I dunno just a theory but it seems so common at this age that I think it might be developmental.

Second, while it might be the stress between you and your husband, I was more interested in this:




Do you think maybe he is repressing alot of his emotions about the adjustment? Everything I've read talks about how kids have intense jealousy with the arrival of the 2nd kid...my DD had a very hard time the first 3-6 months with her new brother. But I just took the acting out in stride and assumed it was part of her adjustment.

I also did lots of playful parenting with her where I let her say mean things about her "baby" dolls and treat them badly (instead of the real baby!) and I tried to give her words for her feelings. I remember one time when she was melting down over nothing and I just started saying what I *imagined* she felt "You hate the baby. You wish it would go away. You want it just to be mommy and you. You are so angry. you want to hit the baby..." etc and it was AMAZING. She just gave me this big puppy dog look and I could see her totally relax to see that I understood how she felt. That was the day things started to get better between her and the baby.

I dunno I guess that experience made me realize how strong a child's emotions are and how they just can't express them. Maybe your son is afraid that if he shows how upset he is, you won't love him anymore? So maybe it's coming out in other ways? I think every child is probably different in how they handle things so maybe he is just someone who holds it all in? Maybe if you do some playing with him and give him permission to have all those yucky feelings, the potty stuff will improve?

Well dunno if that's helpful, but the book Playful Parenting is really a good one on how to get those "uncomfortable" feelings out so they aren't popping up in other behavior....

good luck
peace,
robyn

I'll try it but then again I also don't want to give him the idea to be jealous of her if he's not, kwim? He just loves being around her. Both my dh and ds sort of orbit around her. They both go running when she begins to fuss, ds is always running to give her a pacifier or wipe her face with a burp cloth. He looks at her and rubs her head and says, "her so nice!" about 10 times a day lol. He was here for the birth and I wonder if that made a big difference? He's a VERY talkative little kid. Every person we meet he immediately introduces Alexia, says he's the big brother and she's the little sister, that she came out of mommy's tummy, mommy pushed really hard...then I usually stop him there lol.

One of the stuffed animals he chose to pee on this morning was Alexia's but he didn't know it. I was upset when I realized he'd peed on it and told him it was supposed to be Alexia's teddy bear and he got really upset and crying saying she was going to be sad now. He went and told her all about it and how he was sorry he messed up her toy. So I dunno.

I just got off the phone with my mom. She was here for an entire month while I was having dd and we talked a lot about my dh and his actions. I think my mom has been wanting to say a lot of stuff about my dh for awhile now. She says he's pretty much the perfect husband but not a very good dad and I'm sorry to admit that she's absolutely right. She said all she ever saw was dh telling ds no and basically "go away from me, I'm busy with other things." Dh never plays with ds unless I force him to. Also the peeing started right when dh started this new training thing he's doing that's making him extra stressed and is adding a lot of extra stress to the family with the way dh is acting.

I think if I can get the right price I might fly out to my parents early. At least out there my dad will play with ds a ton. I mean my dad was a lot like dh is now when I was little...you sort of had to walk on egg shells cause you never knew what might make him angry BUT I never felt like he didn't want us around and he ALWAYS made time for us and played with us. He just had an anger problem. I'm not saying it was ideal but we never questioned his love or loyalty to us kids. I'm afraid dh is going to make ds feel unloved and unimportant with the way he is acting.
post #4 of 5
I only have one kid (ds 14 months) but I do home daycare so I have seen a lot. I agree with the above poster. He may be afraid to express his true feelings about the new baby because they are probably scary for him to even feel. he knows he is supposed to be nice to her so if he said he didn't like her he might fear upsetting you??

I would second the Playful parenting approach to see if you can get to the bottom of the issue.

It might be him trying to get dad's attention after all... but you can't dismiss the new addition!

COngratulations btw!
post #5 of 5

I had to post, because I was dealing with this same issue not that long ago. My dd decided to stop using the potty at home. She had no problem when we were out. In fact, she was very diligent about using the potty then. If we were at home on the other hand, she would pee on the floor without even thinking about it. Very frustrating.
I think it may have to do with the tension at home. We weren't going through a tense period, but we weren't paying attention to my dd like we should have been. My dh was very distracted, and since I got pregnant, its been very hard for me to have her sit on my lap or snuggle. Another part of it, she's very clean. Her potty wasn't as spotless as she liked. No, seriously, it was a little stained from use. Once I bleached it white, she had no problem using it. She won't use it if there is anything it. But she's back to using the big potty.
Once my dh and I made the decision to spend more "in-face" time with her, she started to use the potty more often. It also helps that I try to keep a better eye on her signals to use the potty. You know, pee-pee dance, suddenly anxious.
HTH, its a very frustrating time that we are still recovering from.
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