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I'm another one of those skeeved but intrigued by an iud. since i get migraines from hormonal birth control, I'm pretty limited to just the copper iud, which i hear has worse side effects. not so great. I'd love to get a mirena, but for the cost, I hate to think of having to get it removed instantly if migraines pop up again. what a waste.

I have a friend who was born with an iud stuck to her forehead. seriously!

mcsarahb, your little girl looks wise beyond her years. what amazing photos!

rox vs sox? getting more than a little excited. sweets is all about the sox, I'm about the rox. this is hilarious, since this is more exposure to sports than either of us has ever experienced in our lives. but still fun. I remember when the red sox won before- that was the birth year of our may babes and sweets actually woke up the lentil to let him know that the curse was over. very funny.

I have a few minutes and I'm trying to decide if I will work on the lentil's halloween costume or work on my dissertation. like I should even consider anything but the diss.
post #202 of 317
EL-- I know...I have fond memories of being up w/ a screamie C and watching the action...

We are undecided on a 4th so I have no idea what we're going to do. I've heard negative things about the mini pill and IUD w/ supply and couldn't do the IUD for personal reasons and condoms are so blah. But we did want to wait a teensy bit longer in between if we do go for a 4th so who knows! Maybe three kids will be all the bc we need!

Nothing new at the mw appt, still 3cm and had her sweep the membranes so we'll see....
post #203 of 317
heath: just wanted to say how much i love the stalk-y avatar. : makes me schniggle, which is like a giggle but quieter and kind of snicker-y. not chocolate bar snicker, though.
post #204 of 317
I was gonna say that sarahb's L has very wise eyes, but elola beat me to it. She's gorgeous. What great photos!

Wondering if we'll be stalking into November : and thinking warm, easy thoughts for Heather.

Go Sox! Go Rox! I'm back and forth between them, so I'll be happy either way.

We don't go to church either, though we'd like to. Hard to get into the habit when there are only so many hours in a weekend. But the girls have been asking, so if we can't get it together to go, maybe we should send them with their grandfather... if he'd take them. Don't know.
post #205 of 317
Oh my gawds…how long has it been since I posted???

I have been reading along and sending out all sorts of telepathic messages of support and love to each of you over the last couple of weeks. Remember last week when you had that momentary feeling that the universe was giving you a hug? – that was me.

So, a quick (ha ha) update from me (with bullets!):
·I went to the When Childbirth is Traumatic conference at the beginning of the month and it was mind-blowing. I learned so much about women, trauma – heck, myself, that I am changed. I see myself doing a LOT more in this area of work in the future and it is very exciting. It was also very difficult and I am looking for resources for myself to get some support and more intensive therapy. Needed but hard.
·I was in Vermont for a long weekend and it was so nice. We went to visit my friends that moved there. There is more info and pix of their time living with us up at www.thegerb.net under Photos as well as pictures of their new house. Sigh, their house and life was so relaxing and rejuvenating. It was well worth the expense and challenge of traveling with two small kids 6000 miles in less than 5 days. The trip was Alison and I’s Christmas gift to each other.
·My mom arrives for at least a month-long visit on Saturday. I am sooooo looking forward to it. I want to see her and I want to have another adult to rely on when stuff gets to be too much in keeping house/job/kids/marriage going forward. We’re trying to get her to stay for three months, but so far she’s not going for it.

Thanks for thinking of me, fiddlefern. I am sorry that I haven’t been here for you and touched that you missed me.

Els, I want to envelop you in a huge hug and kiss your hair (is that too much?) I am deeply sorry that you had a miscarriage and I hope you are now getting lots of rest.

Heather, I am sending you happy end-of-pregnancy thoughts. I have a lavender candle waiting to be lit just for you.

On church – we don’t attend. I was raised Baptist, joined Congregationalist, Alison and I used to attend Quaker and we’re toying with UU. I work Sundays now, but Alison has promised that we would go after I have the weekends off again.

On baseball – Can NOT get into it. I consider the 5 hours we spent at JFK airport on Sunday as more than enough baseball talk/tv/fan enthusiasm for me. Wow.

Love my MMF.
post #206 of 317
We got to the "enter your information" screen for WS tickets, but everything locked up, and we timed out. ::: So close. Oh well. Still trying, but not optimistic now.

Lisa, so nice to see you! wave wave wave Enjoy your mom's visit.

We're undecided on a 4th (but leaning against, currently). I also feel a little skittish about permanent BC, though I will sheepishly admit that we're not super fond of most of the non-permanent methods. Heath, kids have not been a very effective method of BC for us.

With a membrane sweep, you're either in labor by now or nothing, right?

Els, my dh is a redhead (though fading as he ages to strawberry blond), and he's probably the mellowest, quietest, calmest redhead you'll ever meet.
post #207 of 317
*vegetables quietly peering around corners*

if vegetables could light candles tonight, they would

and I have
post #208 of 317
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You make me smile with your wit, Juice.

Lisa, so glad to hear from you again. I see how you operate, make your friends update us on pix of you and the fam! What a gorgeous group! I think E really takes after you, and A really favors A. What a treat to glimpse into your lives!

KK, sorry about your non-luck scoring tix.

Sarah ,your LIly is absolutely stunning. those eyes....:

Do we have any mamas in the fire-y areas? I'm drawing a blank on the location of our Cali mamas. If memory serves, nuggets is further north, but mamameg, are you close? I'm keeping all California fire ravaged r threatened families close in my thoughts. I hope it all gets under control soon.
post #209 of 317
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Originally Posted by KKmama View Post
I'm really curious about IUDs, too. I guess I'm most curious about what the ramifications are if you have an IUD and you do get pg. Also, I'm wondering what you might know about how IUDs impact ovarian cysts and milk supply (I've heard/read negative things about Mirena, and I couldn't pin my ob down with a straight answer).
The IUD is the most effective type of contraception out there. It protects mainly by inhibiting sperm and making the uterus “inhospitable” to implantation. Studies have shown that fertilization of an egg happens very rarely, and when it does, implantation is inhibited. The Mirena also has progestin, which thins the endometrial lining and inhibits ovulation in some women. So the bottom line is that if you do get pregnant, it is more likely to be an ectopic pregnancy, because the IUD prevents implantation more than it prevents fertilization. HOWEVER, that pregnancy was destined to be an ectopic anyway, regardless of the IUD itself; it does not cause ectopics.

If a woman with an IUD gets pregnant with a normal, intrauterine pregnancy, there is a 50% chance of having a miscarriage (up from about 10-20%, I think, with any other pregnancy). One of my gyn books says, “After removal of the IUD, the spontaneous abortion (i.e., miscarriage) rate decreases to about 30%.” My preceptors recommend taking the IUD out because carrying a pregnancy to term with an IUD increases the risk of infection. But here we’ve just had some stories of people keeping it in, so…I don’t know. I’m guessing you probably don’t want the Mirena in through a pregnancy because of the hormone.

As far as milk supply, the IUD is much less likely to impact supply than combination pills. As long as you start after your supply is well-established, at 6 weeks postpartum or more, it shouldn’t make a difference in supply at all. In the clinic where I was last quarter, we put it in breastfeeding moms all the time. I am afraid I don’t know that much about cysts. I see on some of the public web sites that the Mirena “causes ovarian cysts,” but I’ve never heard of that in any lectures or from any of my preceptors. I will ask this week, though. Now I’m curious. 

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Originally Posted by emmalola View Post
I'm another one of those skeeved but intrigued by an iud. since i get migraines from hormonal birth control, I'm pretty limited to just the copper iud, which i hear has worse side effects. not so great. I'd love to get a mirena, but for the cost, I hate to think of having to get it removed instantly if migraines pop up again. what a waste.
It is my current understanding that combination contraceptives (pills with both estrogen and progestin) are more headache-inducing than the progestin-only types (a few pills and the Mirena IUD). Also, the progestin in the IUD has much less systemic effect; it mainly works locally on the cervix and uterus, a little on the ovaries (about 30-40% of women stop ovulating). But some women find that even progestin-only methods make their headaches worse. Do you know what type you were on?

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I realllly want to hear more about how the IUD could be more effective than a tubal ligation. I don't see how that's possible. I think I'm going to get another IUD despite this experience because of all the options, that's the only one that still appeals.
Paraguard (copper): 0.8% failure rate
Mirena (progestin): <0.5% "with perfect use" in one book and 0.7% in another
Female sterilization: 0.5%

So you guys can see that I’m biased. Unfortunately no type of contraception is perfect, IMO, but this is the best of the options. I love my Mirena. Short, light periods, low risk, less systemic effects.

Sarah

P.S. Hi, Lisa!!
post #210 of 317
Hi Lisa!

Blessings, Heather, my candle is lit

Thinking safe thoughts for the Cali mamas...

post #211 of 317
i'm feeling candle-y-ness... off to light one in real life, as well as this little virtual one...
post #212 of 317
Still here....rant on my blog, can't revisit it here....very thankful for the virtual support--definitely need it today!
post #213 of 317
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Big and Heather.
post #214 of 317
yep. i think the iud baby in my ddc was born with it's iud too. if i remember correctly she didn't want to risk removing it when she found out she was pg because of the mc risk.

my ob thought the mirena was a good option for bf and told me the nuvaring was a no-no. i'd much prefer the pain-free aspect of the ring

i also have contemplated the amazing fertility of the els-viet combo.

nice to hear from lisa

i have to go wake the little man. and i hear babe right on cue!
post #215 of 317
Girls have been absolutely nutty this morning and are already down for their naps before their west coast pdx buddies are even awake for the day! : They either sense something is up or are coming down with colds!:::
post #216 of 317
HF. Hopefully it's not colds and it's just them sensing today is the day!

Hmmmm.... I am using the NuvaRing now and have been for the past several (8) months. I have heard some at mdc say that it's NOT a low does hormone, but my doc insists that it is. I am not too concerned about it, as I feel ok on it and I don't notice any drop in my milk supply. But I've always had lots of milk, so maybe it did drop, but the decrease was not noticeable. Professional opinions?

IUD intrigues me, but also frightens me. Love the long term protection factor, but there seem to be a lot of iud baby and/or miscarriage stories out there and that freaks me out.

Thanks for the concern about the fires, but I am in Northern CA. I am from SD and my parents still have a lot of friends there, so word is coming up that several people they know have been evacuated. Scary.

And just to keep things exciting, DH's car broke down yesterday. : Estimate was about $250, which isn't too bad, but it's 250 we don't have right now. The fun just never ends, does it? :
post #217 of 317
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Still here....rant on my blog, can't revisit it here....very thankful for the virtual support--definitely need it today!
Sending you tons more virtual support. s

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I think E really takes after you, and A really favors A.
We joke that the donor must of had weak genes because the girls look so much like each of us respectively that it is hard to see how they look alike. I hope they discover similarities in the future and feel connected because of it.

Sarah - I have to add to everyone else's comments - your girl is beautiful!!!

How's it been for you, Els?
post #218 of 317
Lisa - wow, the girls do look like their mamas. How fun. You all are a beautiful family.

Meg - So sorry to hear about the car. Hope it gets fixed quickly and cheaply.

SD fires: one of DH's coworkers lives in the area of the fires. He is staying put, but his wife and kid left to stay with friends in Northern Ca.

Mamas, I have a favor to ask. Some of you had nurse midwives for prenatal care and birth, right? I am forgetting. Anyway, I am writing a paper on CNMs and the use of complementary and alternative medicine (CAM). WOuld any of you be willing to write a little paragraph or so on your view of CAM during pregnancy and/or childbirth, and what you expected of your provider? Ideally I am looking for an anecdote about someone who had a CNM, and the CNM recommended some sort of CAM therapy (acupuncture, herbs, whatev) or actually performed it herself. Or, if you asked your CNM (or OB) about CAM and she was against it...Anyone, anyone??

S.
post #219 of 317
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Ideally I am looking for an anecdote about someone who had a CNM, and the CNM recommended some sort of CAM therapy (acupuncture, herbs, whatev) or actually performed it herself. Or, if you asked your CNM (or OB) about CAM and she was against it...Anyone, anyone??
When A was breech, Alison's OB (who has CNMs on staff and is a midwife-like OB) suggested and referred her to chiro and acupuncture for help with turning the babe. Would comments on this be helpful?
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When A was breech, Alison's OB (who has CNMs on staff and is a midwife-like OB) suggested and referred her to chiro and acupuncture for help with turning the babe. Would comments on this be helpful?
Yes!! Totally. I remember this now...it's all coming back. So it was an OB? You can pm me or email. Thanks!!
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