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post #1021 of 1054
4/23/08 at 5:35am

on kids

since my DH is a vegetarian and 90% vegan at home and lactose intolerant so plain milk isn't an option AND has eczema (and I have a minor case of that one, too) (we're talking probably allergic babies here ) I don't have the concern of ever having meat in the house, nor milk as a drink. however, while I am strongly considering raising our children vegan DH has commented on not wanting "vegan" kids before. since he eats vegetarian cheeses and sweets whenever MIL or my parents bring them he's hardly in a position to describe himself as vegan (though weirdly he never buys any just for himself or when we're alone. am I that scary? ). but my plan so far looks like this:

only veganism at home
when eating out giving the veggie options to older kids but stating that it's not vegan
basically not getting mad if they eat something unvegan out of the house, but not buying cheeses, milk etc.
not introducing any of it for a long long time anyway due to potential allergies

DH has not read any of the texts and books about veganism and children so I'm not gonna discuss anything before he has done so. I want an informed conversation, that isn't going to happen unless we're actually pregnant so I have some time. but I've been reading a lot already. basically I'd like my kids to be informed and know why we're vegan but also be patient and understanding should they choose to eat other foods while not at home. I'd hate to be a strict and forbidding mother since I remember friends from school who were never allowed to do anything and the relationship seemed unhealthy to me.

ok, long, sorry it's a subject close to my heart


snow pea, due to the move I have not done any acupressure etc either and not had many teas. I also temped at different times, so my chart is rocky. I think it's smart to focus on overall health. I plan on going swimming on Thursday, somebody please remind me

my friend who has a child has already asked me whether I planned on staying vegan while pregnant. I told her I would but that I'd also carefully plan my diet. so far so good...


vegancupcake, yeah on the relatives. my parents and MIL will strongly oppose our decision, and while I can't really see them sneaking meat in they will surely be vocal about their opinions. that might be an issue with an older child? I also agree on the "forbidden fruit". since I struggle with sweets and guilt I hope to not pass that on. it's just not healthy.

veganf, OMG, grilled cheese? you're killing me!
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post #1022 of 1054
4/23/08 at 12:02pm
On raising little vegans: I cook vegan food at home and if he wants pancakes at a restaurant, birthday cake at an omni friend's house, or a vegetarian snack at school, I allow it (but absolutely no meat!). As he grows older, I plan on having more discussions about omni foods vs. vegan foods. I would be happy if he decides to be vegan as an adult, but really I just want him to be conscious of what he puts into his body, where it comes from, and the impact his choices have on others.

One of my few vegetarian friends who raised his kids veggie has two mostly vegan adult children now (and both kids went through an omni stage during the teen years).

Oh yeah, I met with the surgeon yesterday, and the neck bump is coming out June 4th. It will be sort of a long surgery since they have to find and then avoid some facial nerves, but I'm happy there's an end in sight!

Have a great day, ladies!
post #1023 of 1054
4/23/08 at 1:16pm
My DH is omni but I do all the cooking. I only prepare vegan food but there is yogurt and cow's milk in the house (DH does half the shopping). I would obviously prefer them to be vegan but I have settled for mostly vegetarian (MIL feeds them meat).

I think it is tough to have your kids be completely vegan and not have them feel like "outsiders" when at birthday parties and playdates etc.

I hope they decide to become vegan of their own volition at some point. The 4 year old is just not old enough to understand why I don't want him eating yogurt. DD does to a certain extent. She says "mommy says the milk belongs to the baby cows", so she is starting to get it. She also tells all her friend's parents that I am vegan so hopefully they are a bit respectful of that and at least try to give her vegetarian options.

It's tough. My hat is off to anyone who can do it!
post #1024 of 1054
4/23/08 at 11:32pm
Thanks for your opinions on veggie kids. I know it may be putting the cart before the horse to be worrying about this already. Think I just needed the group support to trust my instinct on this. Have I mentioned lately that I love this group!

oceane, no fair, you have ewcm already! Oh, and don't forget you are going swimming today(I think it will be thurs by the time you read this). Have fun!
post #1025 of 1054
4/24/08 at 1:06am
I enjoyed reading how you all raise your kids or plan to raise your kids when it comes to veganism. My husband is also vegan, so we plan on raising them vegan at home but outside of the home they will most likely be omni. Vegancupcake, I am also worried about my parents sneaking meat to them. I really hope they wouldn't but I don't know...

On a different topic, my IUI went well. Right now I am 9dpiui. When can I test and expect to see an accurate result? Ideally I would like to wait until Monday (14dpiui) but Saturday is dh's birthday and in my perfect dream I imagine giving him a positive pregnancy test wrapped up. I know, I know...I shouldn't get my hopes up. I am trying my best not to. The good news is that I haven't started spotting, which I usually have by now. But that could just be the clomid extending my LP. Okay, sorry to ramble!

Have a wonderful and fertile evening everyone!
post #1026 of 1054
4/24/08 at 6:55am
snowbell, 14 dpo would probably be more likely a visible positive result but earlier hpts have been known to show a line. If you think you can deal with the result either way you can take an earlier test. good to hear all went well!

snow pea, thanks. yes, DH leaves this afternoon (but returns tomorrow with MIL, fun to sneak in BDing, huh ) so I still WANT to go swimming.
post #1027 of 1054
4/24/08 at 9:07am
Dagnabit! I forgot to temp again! Good luck snowbell, I would probably temp on saturday, 12DPO, considering its your DH birthday. Its not a garanteed acurate test, but definately possible. :
post #1028 of 1054
4/24/08 at 11:05am
Snowbell, I'd probably test on 12 DPIUI too given that it's your DH's birthday as long as you are not spotting and your temps look good. I never test "early" any more but that is a special reason. Good luck!
post #1029 of 1054
4/25/08 at 12:52pm
How is everyone today?

My parents are in town for 16 (yes 16!) days. Fortunately since I am now vegan they only eat at my place every other night. The other nights they go to my sister's place. It used to be that they'd all come over to mine (including my sister and BIL) and sit there and watch while I prepared and cleaned up after a meal for 9 people every night. After having worked all day.

My own fault for never askign for help. My sister does not have that problem! In fact, on the nights my BIL is working, they cook for her, LOL!

Tonight I am making a veggie stirfry with peanut-asian chile sauce with roasted cashews.
post #1030 of 1054
4/25/08 at 8:07pm
Thank goodness its friday! This has been a rough week, I am exhausted! Next week is going to be really busy too, but then we are going on vacation the first week in may.

Veganmama, sounds like you have your hands full. Nice that you get the perk of every other night off just for being vegan! I know it is stressfull to be the go-to house, but it is also really flattering, you should take it as a compliment, you're supermom!
post #1031 of 1054
4/28/08 at 12:29pm
Happy Monday everyone. It's actually not so bad having my parents every other day. They "move" here from my sister's sometime this week though. I think my kids really tired them out yesterday though. They came to watch DD at gymnastics at 11:15 and stayed until 9 pm. It was a beautiful day so we spent most of it outside with DS exhorting Grandad and Granna to catch him, play ball, and come up into the treehouse etc etc. LOL, I think they might prefer to stay at my sister's awhile longer. Dear Nephew is only 6 months and not so desirous of their time.

I decided to abandon my plans of making Chana Masala in favour of a BBQ since it was so nice out. I made the veggie burgers from Vegan With a Vengeance. So yummy! With baked potatoes and corn on the cob and salad.

I definitely don't feel like SuperMom most days but thanks,

CD 11, gearing up to O!

SnowPea, I hope you enjoy your musch deserved vacation.
post #1032 of 1054
4/28/08 at 2:22pm
hi everyone,
I'm glad to see the servers are up again. it's hard abstaining from mdc

I hope you catch that egg, veganmama. bbq sounds awesome, I love burgers etc. too bad nobody in your extended family feels they need to help you. I do think it's inconsiderate. you needn't be too modest to ask for help though I guess since they do help your sister. awesome that your kids get to spend so much time with the grandparents!

snow pea, what is up with our late ovulation again?

snowbell, any testing news/results?

catemom, how are you?

and how is everybody else?

we're having the quickest red lentil soup tonight. I had another day at the internship and start a new part-time teaching job tomorrow (English as a Foreign Lang. to kids and teenagers). it's really part time as in once a week for 3 hours, but well, better than nothing. I feel stressed out already
I'm having an awfully long stretch of EWCM, I'm hoping for a temp spike soon. this takes forever.
post #1033 of 1054
4/28/08 at 2:32pm

Update on AmyLaz

I just went over to check on Amy as we hadn't heard from her in awhile and we knew there was a risk of preterm labour. As it turns out she is on bedrest and meds as needed and hoping she won't need to be moved to the hospital for bed rest.

So let's all send our good wishes for her and her babe out into the universe.

oceane, that's great about all the EWCM, I wish I could say that. it definitely diminished with age! I hope that eggie pops soon and you catch it. Your job sounds cool.
It is nice that my kids are getting to spend so much time with their grandparents while they are here. My DS is a real boys boy and LOVES hanging out with my dad, it is too cute. Yesterday we all went to DDs gymnastics and watchedher for awhile then my parents wanted a coffee so we walked up to a nearby coffee shop. I said maybe I'd run into the grocery store and DS was all over that. "yes, let's split up mommy, you can go now!". He so desperately wanted to be alone with his grandparents, it was too cute. I decided against the grocery store as I didn't ant to get cuaght late for pickign DD up so I went to Lululemon instead and bought some yoga capris (i've never been in there before). He was soooo happy for me to be gone, LOL!
post #1034 of 1054
4/28/08 at 2:36pm
Thread Starter 
Okay, since Veganmama crashed my DDC, here I am checking in
Her update speaks for itself - thanks for checking on me.
A few weeks ago I added back dairy b/c I was craving it so badly this pregnancy, so I felt guilty participating in the vegan discussions but I have been watching the thread. Good Luck and to everyone!
post #1035 of 1054
4/28/08 at 6:26pm
Well, we miss you and were worried. I'm glad the bean has stayed put so far.

None of us are perfect vegans, it's impossible. You just do the best you can. Try not to beat yourself up too much. Oh I know, us mamas are great at that!

I am a big believer of listening to your body during PG and it sounds like you are doing that.

Hugs!
post #1036 of 1054
4/28/08 at 6:29pm
Hello Everyone!

Hang in there, AmyLaz! We're thinking about you!

We went to an omni friend's birthday party yesterday and I let DS have ice cream . (TMI ALERT) He had unbelievably bad gas all night and a bm this morning that was impressively disgusting for many reasons. Can a 2.5 yr old (who was just weaned in late December) already be lactose intolerant or is his gut just not used to the intestinal assault of factory farmed cow's milk ice cream?

Good luck to all the O'ing ttcers!

Happy Monday, everyone!
post #1037 of 1054
4/28/08 at 6:30pm
SnowPea, it looks like you and oceane are getting ready to O with me. Let's hope this one is lucky for all of us!
post #1038 of 1054
4/28/08 at 7:17pm
Hey everyone! So glad that mdc is back up and running! I think I may be gearing up to O, although my cervix is still a little firm. I think I am going to have to rely on cm and cp to determine o because I have to get up extra early almost every day this week, so my temps are going to be a little off. : for all of us that this will be the month of vegan positives!
post #1039 of 1054
4/29/08 at 6:23am
catemom, I suppose he could be lactose intolerant, I don't think the enzymes have a certain set time when they might stop working?? but you see I'm guessing here. sorry he was in pain!

amylaz, glad to hear you're ok. you can still participate we don't talk food so much and you're a part of this! I'm not offended by vegetarians participating


veganmama, yes, lets all be lucky. seems you don't take it hard that your little one needs alone time with others. I guess it can be difficult to let go, but you got pants out of it
post #1040 of 1054
4/29/08 at 10:56am
LOL, oceane, I actually thought it was pretty funny that DS was so desperate to get rid of me!

CatemomI think cow's milk is so different to human milk that it's not overly suprising that a little one who is not used to it wouldn't feel great after eating it. I'm sorry he wasn't feeling well though! I have read that up to 70% of North Americans are lactose-intolerant. Not me, I loooooooved dairy. I've always been a bit leery of flesh foods. I ate them but I was always inspecting them for yucky stuff (of course, now I think it's all yucky). Funnily enough though when I decided to go vegan my dairy cravings were gone in 3 days.

I had a huge temp spike today but it's hard to tell if I O'd since I am fighting some kind of bug.