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post #161 of 1054
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Originally Posted by veganmama719 View Post
I have 2 great kids. One of each even so I can't feel TOO sorry for myself.
Do what feels right of course, but you certainly don't have to give up hope for another baby yet!
post #162 of 1054
veganmama. If you really want a third child I very much hope you can have it. 3's the charm!
that's why I stopped temping after ovulation, I don't want to see low temps, I'd rather just get AF. but not yet, too early!
post #163 of 1054
Thread Starter 
Oceane had a good point, veganmama - if AF does show up, why not stop temping after ovulation next cycle? I actually don't temp at all b/c I can't handle the stress!
post #164 of 1054
Thanks everyone.
You might be right. Maybe temping after O is a bad idea for me right now. Pre-O I'd absolutely have to do it though. Even just BDing every other day from CD 8 on wouldn't work for me, I'd have to KNOW when I O'd. Crazy but true.
Sorry I am so down today.
post #165 of 1054
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Originally Posted by veganmama719 View Post
Thanks everyone.
You might be right. Maybe temping after O is a bad idea for me right now. Pre-O I'd absolutely have to do it though. Even just BDing every other day from CD 8 on wouldn't work for me, I'd have to KNOW when I O'd. Crazy but true.
Sorry I am so down today.
perfectly understandable, it's different for everybody. there's no way either me or DH would want to get it on THAT often. I also don't want it to be only about babymaking, I have enough issues as it is
post #166 of 1054
LOL oceane! I agree. If I HAD to BD every other day for weeks (because I wasn't temping) it would get really old, really soon.

Temp stayed way down again today 13 DPO. Usually it doesn't start dropping until 13 DPO, sometimes even 14 DPO so I am suprised it crashed so early this month. Makes the "wait" for AF to show up awfully long since I normally get it 15 DPO!

Enough about me, how is everyone else doing?????
post #167 of 1054
I'm 6 dpo with absolutely no symptoms. In the past (meaning since I started charting 4 cycles ago) I've had 10 day lp and 15 day lp, so Nov 23rd would be the longest lp yet. So that's when I expect my period. Since I don't chart right now I won't know about dips, hmm, maybe I should take a temp tomorrow, at 7dpo... but who am I kidding, it would mean nothing. I am doing better on my diet, I had cookies and muffins today but haven't eaten any chocolate for 4 days, yay me. Also, the sweets weren't overloaded with sugar and oil so I feel ok about them. I'm thirsty now just thinking about these foods...
post #168 of 1054
I'm just about to O soon, I think. I'm thinking either today, tomorrow, or Friday. (I am still a charting novice, and I seem incapable of getting a + OPK, so I can't really pin it down exactly.) Must seduce DH once I get home from work . . . . :

DH and I have been under a lot of stress lately, so I've been eating terribly. Last night I scrounged a blueberry walnut pancake out of the freezer. I had made a batch a few weeks ago and frozen the extra. I didn't heat it up--I just ate it once it wasn't frozen solid anymore.

VeganMama, I wouldn't give up hope yet if I were you.
post #169 of 1054
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I'm 5dpo - I think. With my screwy AF last time, I'm either 5dpo or 2 days before O. I don't temp, just go by CM and ovulation pain, both of which are screwy this month. We bd'd enough to cover the former, now we're working on the latter. I'm going to test on 11/21, which would be 12dpo if I O'd when I think I did. :
I'll be scarce the next two days - taking my DD to Duke University for a check-up (she's three years in remission from recurrent malignant brain tumors)!
post #170 of 1054
I'm heading for the chocolate now. AF just showed. Guess I o'd on CD 11 not 13.

Cool that we have some people in the 2 WW though! I've got my fingers crossed for you!
post #171 of 1054
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Originally Posted by oceane View Post
there's no way either me or DH would want to get it on THAT often.
My husband would be on cloud 9!!! He was actually looking forward to "trying" this time. He would do it 1-2 times per day every day and never ever get tired of it. We joke because he was a late bloomer as a teen that he has to make up for it!

I keep checking in on you all. I was soooo not expecting to be the first + in this thread , in fact I was seriously hoping ALL of you would be pregnant before me . And I am/was so looking forward to some vegan DDC buddies.
post #172 of 1054
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Originally Posted by AmyLaz View Post
I'm 5dpo - I think. With my screwy AF last time, I'm either 5dpo or 2 days before O. I don't temp, just go by CM and ovulation pain, both of which are screwy this month. We bd'd enough to cover the former, now we're working on the latter. I'm going to test on 11/21, which would be 12dpo if I O'd when I think I did. :
I'll be scarce the next two days - taking my DD to Duke University for a check-up (she's three years in remission from recurrent malignant brain tumors)!
I hope your daughter is well!! and that the check-up was nice and easy and not painful or anything.

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My husband would be on cloud 9!!! He was actually looking forward to "trying" this time. He would do it 1-2 times per day every day and never ever get tired of it. We joke because he was a late bloomer as a teen that he has to make up for it!

I keep checking in on you all. I was soooo not expecting to be the first + in this thread , in fact I was seriously hoping ALL of you would be pregnant before me . And I am/was so looking forward to some vegan DDC buddies.
I'm still happy for you and we can always do a vegan thread in the general pregnancy forum, right? needn't be a ddc...

veganmama,
post #173 of 1054
Hey Amy, let us know about the appointment, K?


&^%$ it all, I just read an article about soy and fertility. I had dismissed all this as "junk science" but now that little doubt is starting again. Do any of you avoid soy for at least 4 days before O?
VeganF, how about you?
I asked this question over at VeganFreaks once and got jumped on by a whole bunch of people (mainly men).

What do you all think?

Hopefully no non-vegans reading this thread will see this as a reason not to go veg. After all, the Standard American Diet isn't exactly conducive to fertility either.

I ordered Randine Lewis' The Infertilty Cure yesterday which is based on traditional chines medicine and I know she doesn't seem to ahve a problem with soy......

Grr, maybe I will just avoid it from CD 7 (earliest I've ever o'd is CD 11, last cycle) until I know for sure I've O'd to be safe.
post #174 of 1054
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Originally Posted by veganmama719 View Post
&^%$ it all, I just read an article about soy and fertility. I had dismissed all this as "junk science" but now that little doubt is starting again. Do any of you avoid soy for at least 4 days before O?
VeganF, how about you?
I asked this question over at VeganFreaks once and got jumped on by a whole bunch of people (mainly men).

What do you all think?
I do not avoid soy. I just try to limit processed forms of it. I prefer using the traditional forms that are fermented, brewed, cultured: ie. edamame, soy sauce, tofu, tempeh...and sometimes soy yogurt.

That said, I was on a Tofutti pizza kick as well as eating a sandwich with Tofurky smoked deli slices the 2 weeks before finding out I was pregnant . So there goes that theory!

I don't use soymilk except for baking special treats. We use rice milk, almond milk & hemp milk instead.
I certainly think moderation is a good thing in the case of soy, but I don't think it's a huge evil thing either.
post #175 of 1054
I don't limit my soy intentionally, but I do use things like hemp powder and almond milk in places where I could use soy. I really do like tofu in many forms, though.

So since the Standard American Diet is also high in soy (in forms like soy protein isolate, soybean oil, etc.), is there any evidence that it's had an impact on fertility among omnivores, particularly SAD omnis? I ask this sincerely. I haven't seen any good science on the evils of soy--what I've seen has been rather biased and inflammatory. But I'm always interested in learning more.

Veganmama719, could you post a link to the article you read? Or give a reference, if (gasp) the article was in a paper publication?
post #176 of 1054
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Originally Posted by VeganCupcake View Post
I'm just about to O soon, I think. I'm thinking either today, tomorrow, or Friday. (I am still a charting novice, and I seem incapable of getting a + OPK, so I can't really pin it down exactly.) Must seduce DH once I get home from work . . . . :

DH and I have been under a lot of stress lately, so I've been eating terribly. Last night I scrounged a blueberry walnut pancake out of the freezer. I had made a batch a few weeks ago and frozen the extra. I didn't heat it up--I just ate it once it wasn't frozen solid anymore.

VeganMama, I wouldn't give up hope yet if I were you.
I used to love cold pancakes as a kid. but i've never managed to make them as big as my mom used to

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Originally Posted by veganmama719 View Post
Hey Amy, let us know about the appointment, K?


&^%$ it all, I just read an article about soy and fertility. I had dismissed all this as "junk science" but now that little doubt is starting again. Do any of you avoid soy for at least 4 days before O?
VeganF, how about you?
I asked this question over at VeganFreaks once and got jumped on by a whole bunch of people (mainly men).

What do you all think?

Hopefully no non-vegans reading this thread will see this as a reason not to go veg. After all, the Standard American Diet isn't exactly conducive to fertility either.

I ordered Randine Lewis' The Infertilty Cure yesterday which is based on traditional chines medicine and I know she doesn't seem to ahve a problem with soy......

Grr, maybe I will just avoid it from CD 7 (earliest I've ever o'd is CD 11, last cycle) until I know for sure I've O'd to be safe.
I don't limit soy and I do eat processed forms. I use it in my muesli, I use rice or oatmilk for my milkshakes and I use soymilk for baking. I eat tofu maybe twice or three times a week. when we eat wieners and other fakes I often buy seitan versions, but not always. I hate soy sauce, so it's not too often in our meals. I do eat soy yoghurt but since it's expensive it's usually also only twice a week. So I certainly have some soy almost everyday. but then I'm not pregnant either :
I don't really want to believe it because it seems so random to come up with it. and there's always counterstudies to the bad press. I read an online article on a study with apes (yes, gross) who were not infertile after getting much soy. I think humans can eat a lot before compromising our ability to function normally...
let me see if I can find the article.

the monkey study results

I don't know how much science is in science daily. Honestly, I've NEVER heard anything about that here in Germany, and my doctors didn't warn me about soy as a vegan either. not even with my low thyroid, the medication says it MIGHT inhibit absorption especially at the beginning or end of a soy-heavy diet. well, my levels were great so it didn't inhibit anything. also, the doc didn't mention that possibility either.
post #177 of 1054
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Originally Posted by VeganCupcake View Post
I don't limit my soy intentionally, but I do use things like hemp powder and almond milk in places where I could use soy. I really do like tofu in many forms, though.

So since the Standard American Diet is also high in soy (in forms like soy protein isolate, soybean oil, etc.), is there any evidence that it's had an impact on fertility among omnivores, particularly SAD omnis? I ask this sincerely. I haven't seen any good science on the evils of soy--what I've seen has been rather biased and inflammatory. But I'm always interested in learning more.

Veganmama719, could you post a link to the article you read? Or give a reference, if (gasp) the article was in a paper publication?
yeah! where does that even come from I wonder? I would be willing to be convinced by a very good study, as it's possible to be soyfree and vegan, but it's much easier this way. and often very tasty
post #178 of 1054
Here's the link to a story on the study:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4115506.stm

It doesn't say you need to avoid it entirely, just before O.

I have no idea whether this is "junk science" or not. But I suppose I could avoid it from CD 7 to after O, just to be safe. I only eat tofu about once a week but I do drink soymilk. But I can switch to rice and almond milks for those few days for sure.

Since I am only CD 3 I am going have tofu toight, :P
post #179 of 1054
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Originally Posted by veganmama719 View Post
Here's the link to a story on the study:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4115506.stm

It doesn't say you need to avoid it entirely, just before O.

I have no idea whether this is "junk science" or not. But I suppose I could avoid it from CD 7 to after O, just to be safe. I only eat tofu about once a week but I do drink soymilk. But I can switch to rice and almond milks for those few days for sure.

Since I am only CD 3 I am going have tofu toight, :P
well, I have like 30 days pre o so that would not be easy
post #180 of 1054
Thanks for the link, Veganmama! I'm reading it right now.
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