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post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Quick background, if you haven't been following along...

Ryan (my fiance) and I are both still living w/ our respective parents. We have a house to move into, but until Ryan finds a full-time job, we can't afford to. As a result, I spend a lot of time at his parents' house. I am over there, usually 6 days/week.

This is about my 8 mo. old, but pregnancy hormones are making me even more irate.

Only on rare occassions do I ask my MIL (to-be) specifically to watch my 8 mo. old. Ryan, I, or both of us are nearly ALWAYS there. She just swoops in and seems to think we're incompetent.

Here's the rest of the rant:

I NEED Ryan to find a full-time job SOON so we can move out. His mom is driving me nuts. Let me count the ways:

1.) The walker. Okay, we have a baby walker at home, too. Darren does enjoy, but he's in it for less than an hour a day. Strictly while we're making/eating supper. When he's at Ryan's house, he's in the walker for, I'd say 98% of the day. The only time he's not in it is when he's eating, sleeping, or being changed.

Darren LOVES to crawl. He loves to pull himself up. I truly think they put him in the walker b/c then they don't have to pay any attention to him. Yeah, you do have to watch him more closely, but, HELLO, that's part of it. If you don't want to go thru the trouble of actually watching and interacting with your grandson, then let me know. I'll find someone else to watch him.

At first, I gave her the benefit of the doubt, and thought that perhaps she/they put him in the walker so that he wouldn't go down the stairs. But then the other night I was over there, and he was on my lap and wanted down. I said to him, very loudly (so she would hear), "Well, since I'm right here to make sure you don't fly down the stairs, you can crawl around." In less than 60 sec., she had picked him up and slapped him in the walker.

Last night, I went over to Ryan's in the afternoon, before his parents were home. Darren crawled around on the floor, stayed in the living room (far from the stairs), and was enjoying himself immensley. Ryan's Dad came home, picked up Darren, and slapped him in the walker.

WHY!!?!?!?! (Where's that *beats head against a brick wall* emoticon?)

THEN, then will CONTINUE to force him to be in it, even when it's clear that he does not WANT to be in it. Last night, he was fussing and crying (I'll get to THAT in a minute); it was clear he did not want to be in the walker, so I took him out and was playing with him on the floor. As soon as he whined a BIT, Cheryl (Ryan's mom) swooped in and slapped him back in the walker.

HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE IN IT!!!!

So the fussing and crying leads me to...

2.) The woman is terrified that I'm overfeeding him. To the point that she UNDERfeeds him. I KNEW the reason he was fussing and crying was b/c he was hungry. She offered him the bottle and he didn't want it--b/c he wanted solid foods. But she doesn't want to offer him solids b/c then he'll get fat. I would have fed him myself, but he doesn't eat well with a lot of distractions, and any time I try to feed him there, it turns into a three ring circus. We'd have to go into the bathroom to be left alone. (Ryan's little brother, Logan, who's 10, but truly acts 5, is the biggest problem. He gets in Darren's face and WILL NOT leave.)

SO, she FINALLY decides to feed him at 6:30, which is a full hour after when he normally eats supper, so the poor kid is starving. Then she gives him half of what I would have (and what I AND Ryan have TOLD her that he normally eats) and pronounces him "stuffed." Yeah. So explain to me why he's crying.

He wouldn't take the bottle, b/c he wanted solids. He was also tired, since he had missed his afternoon nap (since they insisted upon shoving him in the walker), so I put him to sleep. He took a 30 min. nap, and then woke up. Cheryl couldn't figure out why he woke up. DO YOU THINK MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE HE'S STARVING!? So I ask Ryan to grab me the bottle out of the frige. "Oh, I'm sure he doesn't need that; he ate so much solids!"

He ate a full 6 oz. bottle, and 2 oz. out of a second.

So by now it's 8:00, and it's his bed time. He's tired. He's fighting it though. This is a nightly thing. He cries for about 15 minutes before he falls asleep. This is his "normal." I have accepted it. Ryan has accepted it. WHY WON"T SHE?!

I try to put him to sleep, but she whisks in and says, "Oh, here; he can help me with Logan's homework." 10 minutes later, she brings him back, because, shockingly, he was trying to eat the paper.

Did you really not see that coming, lady?

So then Ryan take him to put him to sleep. He starts crying again. She wants to shove a pacifier in his mouth. Fortunately, Ryan was like, "Um, I don't think he wants it." So of course, she says, "Well, we'll be done w/ homework in a few minutes. Then he can come play with me until he's tired."

How can I say this so you can understand: He doesn't need a pacifier. He doesn't need to play. He need someone who is willing to put him to sleep.

Thank God, she left us alone then, and Ryan got him to sleep.

3.) She doesn't like our boys name we've picked out. (Henry, btw.) Do you know why? B/c that happens to have been my Grandpa's name. She thinks I pressured Ryan into this name. Clearly, it's beside the point that RYAN suggested it, and didn't even REALIZE it was my grandpa's name.

I left Darren with Ryan today (I have to work later), and I feel SO guilty about it. I urged Ryan before I left to make sure he ate enough, to offer him water throughout the day (Darren really likes water), and to make sure that he was out of the walker more than he was in it. I begged Ryan to make sure his mom knew that Darren needs to eat more. "Well why don't you say something? You're his mother." Yes, I am. But she's YOUR mother. If I say something, I'm going to look like I hate my MIL. (And I know her. That's exactly what she's think. She's always pulling the "Oh, you hurt my feelings" card.)

I SHOULDN'T feel guilty about leaving my child with his father and grandparents. But I just feel like they are SO oblivious to his needs!

It's clear what is wrong with Ryan's youngest brother (the one who literally acts 5). If my parents shoved me aside at every opportunity, I'd be screaming for attention, too. (And Ryan and I are completely in agreement here: they are doing EVERYTHING wrong with this kid. It's not just me being bitchy/picky.)

OH, and one more reason she's driving me batty.

4.) Ryan and I have discussed this a lot, and we feel that once he gets a full-time job, if I work part-time, I'll be able to stay home with the kids most of the time. This is very important to me, as I'm sure most of you know. He told him mom this. She was apalled. "Both parents are supposed to work!" SHE SAID THAT! I know why she's like this, but she drives me nuts: she grew up w/ next to nothing, so she's made it her life's mission to make sure her kids have everything they ever ask for. She's the classic, "stuff is more important than my time" sort of stereotype.

When Ryan told me this, I had to bite my tongue very hard and think over my words very carefully. "She and I just have different values. Our kids might not have as much stuff as you guys had, but I feel it's more important for them to have my time." And dropped the subject.

Whether, you, she, or anyone agrees with our decision, is irrelevant. How dare she judge the decision WE've made for OUR lives?

I just want to scream at her/them sometimes: "Can't you SEE all the problems your kids have? I know I'm not perfect, but can't you admit that MAYBE you did something wrong in raising them? Your system CLEARLY did not work! Could we just TRY to do things my way?!"

We NEED to move. I cannot take this much longer. I know how I am: I don't get mad often, but when I do, I blow up. Pregnancy exacerbates this. She's going to do or say something, and I'm going to flip out. She'll cry, and I'll be the bad daughter-in-law.

If you've read thru all this, you're a saint. Even if you just skimmed it, you're pretty fabulous Thanks for listening to my ranting.
post #2 of 14
Amanda, . I'm sorry that you have to deal with all of this, especially during pregnancy.

Reading your post made me happy that my in-laws live thousands of miles away. I love them but if we were around them more, I have a feeling we'd be having similar clashes over parenting.
post #3 of 14
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i'm so sorry! i can't even imagine pseudo-living with my in-laws (or my parents for that matter), and we get along.

sending full-time job vibes to your dp!!!!
post #4 of 14
*hugs* That sounds incredibly frustrating. The best advice I have to give is that it sounds like both your df and you need to learn to stand up for yourselves. It's YOUR baby, not his mother's, and you dictate how he's fed, sleeps, etc. If she's "swooping in" while one of you is there, it's because you're letting her - remember, we teach people how to treat us.

I hope that doesn't sound overly harsh. It just sounds to me like unless you two are moving out tomorrow you simply have to change this situation right away. The best way to change that is to stop giving his mother so much power and control. Good luck!
post #5 of 14
ITA with operamommy. It sounds like she's trying to be the parent while you're there. For me, when it comes to my children, I tell my parents, in-laws, friends, sister, etc. point blank - this is how my child will be treated, this is what s/he does and doesn't eat - this is MY child and if you want to care for my child, you will care for my child how *I* see fit. I'm not saying they have to care for your child in the exact same manner as you do - everyone does things a little differently - but when it comes to food, floor time, sleeping, etc. the parents' rules are law!

Could you move the walker to another room so it's out of sight/reach and a lot more inconvenient for your in-laws? Maybe get a baby gate for the top of the stairs so they don't have any excuses for not putting him on the floor?
post #6 of 14
Oi. I don't like your MIL at all. I agree with pp though, stand up for yourself, tell her how it is and how it WILL be.
In any case I agree with you, I think it's much better that you're at home with your children, quality time with you is much more important than stuff. Besides if you're really careful with your finances it's possible that you won't have to work at all.
When I was working at the bank I had a client who had 5 kids and was supporting them on under 20K, and his credit was perfect. So it's possible.
Anyhow I hope it all works out and she opens her eyes and realizes that you're the mother and she's not.
post #7 of 14
Not to be offensive, but you are 24 and a mother of one child and fixing to have another. You and your DH need to make your OWN family in your OWN home. You need to make your OWN rules and you need to act as if you expect them to be followed. Moms and MILs will always interfere and think they have a better way to take care of baby (my parents still do this and it drives me CRAZY) but by living there and being there all of the time you are not making it clear that you are a seprate family. It's time to cut the apron strings and time for DBF to get a job and provide. Things won't be easy I am sure, and your ILs will obviously not always agree (mine didn't understand the stay at home thing either, since mIL has always worked), but they need to see you as responsible indpendant adults, KWIM?
post #8 of 14
OKay I totally don't mean this offensively. But you NEED to stand up for what you want as the parent and you need to do it before this next baby comes and they can tell what to do with two of them. IF that means you get rid of the baby walker flat out (pull out the studies on how they are bad for their legs if you need to - I know our PT has said flat out absolutely no baby walkers for instance based on those ) and require them to feed X amount of food at every feeding etc etc etc then do it.

I know it's hard - we lived with my parents for a month after Sydney came home from the hospital. But you have to put your foot down. You are the mom and Ryan is the dad, not your MIL and FIL.

post #9 of 14
boy, that's some tough stuff.

i'd really try to be assertive when you communicate with her. not aggressive and not passive, just state your needs and wants clearly.

"i feel darren needs to spend more time out of the walker. i need you to respect my feelings in this area." or "if my son develops a weight problem when he's older we'll deal with it but as an infant i KNOW he needs more food than he's getting when you feed him. please respect my decision as his mother and feed him the amounts i suggest."

of course, it's easier to say than do. heh. i'm working on this BIG TIME myself which is why i would offer this advice. when i can manage to make it work i'm amazed at the results.

and of course people have all sorts of crazy defense mechanisms so i'm sure your MIL will have some reason to not listen to you. just be true to how you feel and at least then you know that you are communicating honestly and openly.

good luck and a big hug because this sounds just terribly frustrating!!
post #10 of 14
I am sorry you have to go through this

I agree with operamommy.

Your ILs act so ill-considered. They just don't respect you or your DF and they torture your lo.
post #11 of 14
my own mom is the "swoop in" type so I know what you're talking about. Luckily my mom and I pretty much agree on things parenting-wise so it never became a huge problem- BUT if I had to live with her, it would have been utter misery.

Why doesn't he have a full-time job yet? My dp has been out of work a few times, doesn't have a degree and still always manages to find work in about a month or 2 max. How long has he been trying to find a job? What's hindering the process? I've never been to a gas station or a Wal-mart that wasn't hiring. It may not be his dream job, but he's got 2 kids and he should have had a full-time job a long time ago (unless he just recently lost his job or something like that).

The best thing you can do is to stress to him how important finding a job, any full-time job ASAP is. No amount of boundary setting will work as well as you just having your own home so that you aren't in what your MIL perceives as "her" territory all the time.

Also, since you live with your parents, could you just start spending most of your time as a family there instead of at his parents house so that you don't have to deal with your MIL and the little brother?

I really feel for ya, you don't need all that stress with a baby and another on the way.
post #12 of 14
check out this link about walkers:
http://www.pediatricservices.com/parents/pc-21.htm
post #13 of 14
Your post has been weighing heavily on my mind and I just had to comment on it.

YOU are the parent, not your MIL. She has/had her chance to be a mother and it is your turn now.

Your fiance needs to grow a pair. You shouldn't have to have these discussions with your ILs at all. They are your fiance's parents, he should be the one dealing with them and setting the firm boundaries. He needs to learn to stand up to Mommy and Daddy. Believe me, I speak from experience. My ILs would be your ILs if DH and I would let them. DH had to learn to stand up to them, and he did, bless his heart. (of course, limiting our exposure to them to just avoid their junk helps as well)

You need to be discussing these things with your fiance and the two of you need to see eye to eye and present a united front against the ILs. I hugely, hugely recommend counseling. When DH and I were engaged we went to a counselor. Actually, he went with me to a few of my appointments with my counselor I was seeing for my depression. It really helped him understand how to build an adult relationship and set boundaries.

If you are lucky to have health insurance that covers counseling, tell your doctor that you are depressed about your living situation and want to talk to a counselor. Then you can bring your fiance to talk to the counselor as well. If you don't have health insurance that covers mental health, talk to your pastor, rabbi, priest, whatever. If you don't attend religious services, it is definitely worth it to find a counselor who will take payment plans. COUNSELING IS LESS EXPENSIVE THAN DIVORCE and it could save you a lot of misery down the road.

You and your fiance and children are family now and your fiance needs to always put his new family first, ahead of his parents. You need to set the boundaries now or you will be miserable forever.

Finally, if your ILs are such toads, why are you spending so much time at their house? Do you have problems with your parents too? Not to be nosy, but if you are so miserable at the ILs, tell your fiance he has to come see you at your parents' house.
post #14 of 14
Thread Starter 
Since several people have suggested spending more time at my parents house, I better explain.

My dad is, well, an ass. Ryan can't stand him, and I can't blame him. Ryan pretty much avoids entering the house anytime my dad is home. And frankly, I try to leave the house as quickly as possible when my dad is home. Among other things, he's an alcoholic, and the last while, I've seen him drunk more often than I've seen him sober. Honestly, I rather he not see DS at all, but right now, with the living situation, it can't be helped.

Part of what upsets me so much about my dad is that he abused my brother something horrible when we were little. Now that I have my own son, I just cannot comprehend that. At all. Dad doesn't physically abuse my brother anymore, but he's very verbally abusive. (He insists that my brother is not his child.) Now he does NOT treat Darren that way at all. But that's part of what upsets me. How can you treat your own son like crap, and then love your grandson?

And despite the fact that Dad treats Darren well, he only wants him when he's in a good mood. He will not feed Darren, will not change a diaper, and as soon as Darren starts to cry, he hands him off to my mom or me. Which, is fine, I suppose, but then Dad turns around and got upset the other night when Darren was crying and didn't want anything to do with him.

And this is probably a minor thing, but one thing Dad does that really upsets me is, when he is holding Darren and I walk into the room, he'll say to Darren, "Here comes the witch!" and laugh. I'm sorry, but it's not funny to me, it hurts, and I do not want Darren thinking that it's funny or appropriate to refer to me as that.

Anyway, that's the Cliff Notes version of why I don't like my dad and why Ryan doesn't come to my house. As much as his parents drive me up the wall, I don't dislike them as much as I do my Dad. I can honestly say that Ryan's parents are good people; we just disagree on some (okay, aLOT) of stuff. I cannot say the same about my father.

(BTW, my mother is FABULOUS. She and I have always gotten along extremely well. We're alike in just about every way. So she is not a problem at all. It's strictly my father.)

Oh, to whoever posted the link about walkers: I emailed it to Ryan. I did tell him most of that stuff the other night, but he always thinks I"m making up stuff to suit my argument (I would NEVER do that ). He did seem a little concerned when I mentioned it could harm Darren's muscle development, so seeing it in black and white should help. Thanks for the link!
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