Desperate Housewives - Page 6

[gridley13]

I too was upset that Orson got over it so easily. But overall, some excellent points brought up. And like the previous poster said about her facebook... hopefully more discussion will stem from the episode so that is good!

[fruitful womb]

I'm really surprised Bree's gay ds didn't step in to protest on Orsen's behalf. Circumcision is a huge no-no for gay ppl. They're against it, I mean.

[Papai]

Originally Posted by fruitful womb

I'm really surprised Bree's gay ds didn't step in to protest on Orsen's behalf. Circumcision is a huge no-no for gay ppl. They're against it, I mean.

Uh, you sure about that?

I had a gay friend who was cut and looked down on those who weren't. I'm not in touch with the gay community but I presume that there are those who care and those who don't. Just like in the straight world.

[gridley13]

I think it is a bit of a generalization to say gay ppl are against circ!

It would have expected him to side with Orson though, simply because he tends to disagree with Bree regardless of the topic.

[falcon]

Maybe if Susan/Mike have a boy, they will decide to leave him intact, since they heard Orson and Bree argue about it. (That's probably overly optimistic, they probably won't bring up this issue again on the show.) Dh and I were shocked that Orson wasn't more ticked off after Bree had the baby circed.

[hollytheteacher]

Originally Posted by Mandynee22

That isn't shocking to me. Mainstream TV tackling adoptive BFing? Too much to hope for just yet.

Have you actually been watching the show? it's not really HER baby, so therefore she isn't lactating

[fruitful womb]

Originally Posted by Papai

Uh, you sure about that?

I had a gay friend who was cut and looked down on those who weren't. I'm not in touch with the gay community but I presume that there are those who care and those who don't. Just like in the straight world.

No, I'm not so sure now. Just that every gay person I know feels strongly opposed to it. I ASSume too much.

[hollytheteacher]

Originally Posted by Papai

Uh, you sure about that?

I had a gay friend who was cut and looked down on those who weren't. I'm not in touch with the gay community but I presume that there are those who care and those who don't. Just like in the straight world.

I think she's right. I've heard of gay bars where there is no cover charge for uncut men!

[mamamillet]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mandynee22
That isn't shocking to me. Mainstream TV tackling adoptive BFing? Too much to hope for just yet.

Have you actually been watching the show? it's not really HER baby, so therefore she isn't lactating

That is why she said adoptive BFing! Women can induce lactation without being pregnant.

[gridley13]

Originally Posted by hollytheteacher

I've heard of gay bars where there is no cover charge for uncut men!

That is hilarious!!!! I suppose they have to prove it in order to get in free?

[alissakae]

Now that I've mulled this over a bit, I think there are a lot of positives about what happened on this show. First of all, regular viewers know Bree to be extremely controlling and superficial....which puts someone who would go to such lengths to get a baby cut in the same category. This is not where most moms want to be.

Orson is the product of a very abusive "Mommy Dearest" who has been a character on the show. The fact that THAT mother had him circumcised is another blow to the image of a woman who would get a baby cut.

Orson has been very damaged by his upbringing, and mentioned how traumatic his circumcision was to him. He also decided he wanted Bree when she was still married and was involved in her first husband's "accidental" death - so he is capable of anything. It would not be out of character for him to act mollified by Bree's words after the circ but come back later somehow to punish her for doing it. Since he was so opposed, I wouldn't be surprised if the issue DID come up later as something he exacts revenge for.

Stay tuned

[lotus.blossom]

Totally hypothetical, obviously, but I wonder what Bree thinks of her vagina? Seems like it would be just as "unsightly" as a foreskin!

[Mandynee22]

Originally Posted by Bm31

The UA violation did it. And Orson totally wimps out about it. I can't say what I'd have done to her.

Though...she is a good example of just how stupid and superficial pro-circ'ers are.

Just wait. It will cause some major problems down the road. I hope he divorces her

[Mandynee22]

Originally Posted by hollytheteacher

Have you actually been watching the show? it's not really HER baby, so therefore she isn't lactating

I've watched every week from the beginning. I'm obsessed LOL
I know she isn't actually lactating but to show her BFing she would have to relactate and that's too much seriousness for dh
I still did like it. I loved all Orson's anti circ arguments

[Mandynee22]

Originally Posted by hollytheteacher

I think she's right. I've heard of gay bars where there is no cover charge for uncut men!

So... they verify this??? lol

[myfairbabies]

Originally Posted by alissakae

He also decided he wanted Bree when she was still married and was involved in her first husband's "accidental" death - so he is capable of anything.

What? he wasn't around then, that was the creepy pharmacist. He did run down Mike though.

[alissakae]

Originally Posted by notyetamommy

What? he wasn't around then, that was the creepy pharmacist. He did run down Mike though.

Oh, you're right. Sorry! : I am only a hit and miss viewer! Anyway, as with all the characters we know that Orson can be mean. I really do think that he backed down too easily after Bree cut the baby, and he WILL get even at some point. After all, his mom cut him and that was just a small part of the many ways she messed with his mind. Now Bree has done the same thing to the baby. There is no way he can really sit still for that unless the writers are extremely inconsistent with his character.

[Synchro246]

Originally Posted by smeep

I love it too! They must've actually looked into the debate thing really well. Bree's (sp?) comments were very typical of those who circ out of ignorance. Though Iw ould've liked to have heard him mention how the hygiene thing is a myth. Oh well, ritual mutilation and loss of sensitivity is pretty great!

Did they say "mastrabatory hygiene" or what?

When she said "That's why it's supposed to be done to an infant, so they don't remember" I wish orson had said something to the effect of "yes, traumatizing someone is OK if they won't remember. . .date rape. . . "
But other thant that I thought the anti-circ side was well represented & I'm pleased with the show. It was annoying that Bre did what she did though, but it's all in the name of good tv, so we couldn't hope for too much.

Originally Posted by Mandynee22

I've watched every week from the beginning. I'm obsessed LOL
I know she isn't actually lactating but to show her BFing she would have to relactate and that's too much seriousness for dh
I still did like it. I loved all Orson's anti circ arguments

Well, pumping to re-lactate would have been a neat addition to all the belly padding scenes. . .Oh well, I bet the writers don't even know about induced lactation. Too bad, because going to such legnths to cover her story would have been very Bree.

[jessjgh1]

well the one thing bree pointed out was 'conformity' so it would just kill her if it ends up that ds is in the minority.

nak

[Ron_Low]

Originally Posted by alissakae

Orson can be mean. I really do think that he backed down too easily after Bree cut the baby, and he WILL get even at some point.

Let's see if he starts restoring his own foreskin! The would fix her.