The Pinworm Thread - Page 12

[freaked]

Ive got pinworms ive found they are in my(((( HAIR & SCALP  )))) they live anywhere its warm & moist under arms in your hair  it the hair btween your legs  so shavings  a good thing  but to kill them in my hair is a nightmare not easy to kill Ive tried vodka  75 % alcohol white vinigar  , ive tried all sorts of shampoos & remedies  & am trying  mixing an amount of diatomscious earth  with the conditioner in my hair after washing it with shampoo I even add to shampoo  when washing im just now trying it  hard to put in dry wont sink in & breaks hair  goes matty so trying other ways while wet ))))can't brush but mix amount  with  final (((conditioner   then not washing much of it out)))). & leaving my hair in a swimming cap at night cos when you go to  bed to  the first about 10 or so seconds the light is switched off sleep they come  down your hair over your face in your eyes, ears  ((((( nose  & in to your mouth ))) & (((((reinfect you again )))))..... I washed my sheets & stuff & wondered why I kept getting reinfected  but  the moment it starts to get dark or I go to bed & switch off the light  can feel them they are all over my face it feels awful & feel helpless  I bought goggles & face mask swim cap  so thats how people are getting reinfected too so I  ((use a hair swim cap they fit tight ))  put WHATEVER CAN USE TO KILL THEM IN YOUR HAIR TOO SOAK YOUR HAIR THEN PUT THE CAP ON  ....im taking garlic with cloves & a drink of orange juice with  diatomatious earth but I wash & see larvee on my clothes & use a sticky rubber spikey thumb to remove the larvee from my clothes... if I see it & kill if I can I am sitting here with a swim cap on my head & have done first hair  wash  & cond with Ditom earth hoping it will work .....I feel them moving under the cap which you may not if not wearing 1... I thought id let you kno there are other ways in which you get reinfected..I look & see people in public with the white larvee in their clothes around their neck & shoulders they may not kno they have them  it would be from in their hair makes sense to me  its come from their hair....so please check your hair too..& if anyone has a good remedy that works with your hair please post it..

[mamayogibear]

maybe neem powder... make a thick paste and massage into your hair and scalp and then wrap and let sit over night. I have used it for fleas and ticks but have never tried it on pin worms. Neem oil is easy to find at gardening stores and that might work too but the powder is harder to find, you might need to order it online. good luck! oh and eat the food grade diatamatecous earth don't just put it in your hair.

[mamayogibear]

Hi welcome to MDC!

I would take everything and wash it including the fabric bin. I think this could be accomplished at home and save a trip to the laundromat unless time is more important than the inconvenience of driving there. I think DE is safe for toddlers, I hope it is as I've mixed small amounts (a teaspoon) in almond yogurt before  my little ones eat it.

Good luck and best wishes!

Originally Posted by mama-llama 

So it has finally dawned on me why my little one (12 months) wriggles around the bed every night and seems uncomfortable.  Pinworm.  I seem to be very susceptible and we co -sleep and I just found one on me and so...  seems to make sense.  I am going to check him later, but I'm pretty sure we'll be at the doctor's in the morning.  

Here's my question - laundry.

I put the dirty laundry all together in a fabric-lined bin.  Wash, dry, and place back in the bin before folding.  So I'm assuming that there's a good chance that there are eggs falling into the bin and then getting back on the clean clothes before I put them back on the kids.  ugh.  

Is it insane to take it all, clean clothes included, to the laundromat to be cleaned?

Also - DE.  Is it safe for young toddlers?

[freaked]

I haven t had a go at ((neem powder yet))  tried a cap of kero in  small  tub water it helped a bit for my hair..But I read that (( HYDROGEN PEROXIDE)) can kill them I read the bottle side & it said you can use as a mouth rinse so I was in a super maket & saw  a bottle of  ((hydrogen peroxide )) I bought it  I am taking ((diatomacoius earth))  in a drink & having ((garlic )) it works but so many larvee produced causes reinfection cos every treatment the pin worm treatment works 1ce then more pinworm get in your system that wasn't in before  & ((needs more treatment applied  to kill them ))cos wasn't in the system at the time of the earlier treatment  for anyone that thinks treatments don't work.. but cos the larvae floats in the air .. & on to anything it lands on I sit at my computer in the early morning & see them sometimes they are atracted to you & fly at you  &  I see  how my washing can be reinfected  when ive put my washing in a in a different room cos the larvee floate's in the air  in the rooms cos pin worm have been living in my hair  too made garlic & cloves mixed together microwaved to a liquid & stuck it in my hair with a light mixing of Diatomatious earth too  after a shower  then trap it all with a swim cap  then crashed out to sleep after work cos there is(( no made up product for hair (((please pinworm company read this we need products for washing clothes & stuff &  hair & body too))) not just something to eat & drink  )) has drifted to my shoulders I see it in the shoulder area of my tops cos I wear dark clothes they stand out in the light like little white curls tightly in the top of my dark coloured clothes around my head & shoulders & other clothing & washing  well Ive tried hydrogen peroxide in my hair it killed didn't get all  though or got reinfected cos they get everywhere ...become a blonde in the process but I read people are putting garlic & cloves in their  moist & sweat areas & areas  & below  areas well I tried hydrogen peroxide all around my  ((sweaty hairy areas & lower areas)) since you can use it as a(( mouth rinse )) I put some on a cotton bud in lower area including only (( slightly in to my anus )) & a few seconds if I had any pin worm they went in to a wriggling fit  then it stopped  a short while later ..I think it kills them instantly it only works for a short time but it seems it does kill them but will have to(( reapply when you get that feeling )) Ive had a few a nights  & had to many times cos a new few gets there it gave me a very instant relief cos people talk about them needing air so they will be around or slightly just in your anal entrance  but ((hydrogen peroxide does work instantly whe hits worms .)). so I am using it may have to kill off many times been doing this a few days Im still ok  so far  health wise from  doing this..im still experimenting  It seems  ((  HYDROGEN PEROXIDE  )) seems to kill in a few moments they wriggle from first begin stung by it  & gives almost  instant  relief if you get them  all  after a short time from using too but reinfection can be likely after a while so im keeping washing my things vacuming house  & stuff  takin diatomatious earth garlic & stuff...I might add im still taking the the wormers from chemists on occasions too..

Edited by freaked - 3/14/12 at 2:46pm

[wantingagirl2b#4]

Well sad to say I'm back DD still complaining of hurting down there and I go check her and yep they are back or never went away! ;(. Where do u buy this food grade DE everyone is talking about? Gotta do something this is crazy bad stuff!!!!

[Stephoney8286]

Hey, 

I've just seen this. I don't think keeping them is a good idea in some cases they can lead to malabsoption of the body. I have celiac disease and caught them from my little boy I have never been in so much agony as my body is recovering from having an auto immune disease for years. If anything they made me worse and gave me server abdominal pain and put me in bed. This isn't a health bacteria they are vial things that feed on the sugar in your blood! 

[bec0108]

Hello everyone. I'm very new here as my 11 month old daughter has (well, I think) pinworms. I'm wondering if anyone has had any luck treating pinworms naturally. I read all the ideas and wonder if any have actually worked?

[bec0108]

I'll give you some info on our situation. I noticed a week ago today the DD had a couple of white marks in her stool. I put it in a zip lock and the next day there were 2 worms. I called the dr and they wrote an RX for Vermox 100 MG. Dr informed us that the RX could cause seizures in children under the age of 1. I'm really freaked out. Household is Myself, husband, 4 yr old and 11 month old. No one else has had any symtoms but I'm told if one has pinworms, chances are good we all do. 11 month old has been doing raw garlic 2x a day, papaya seeds, grapefruit seed extract and vasile on her anus at night. My 4 yr old is a little harder then that. She's been eating carrots and grapefruit seed extract. She will not do garlic, papaya, or pumpkin seeds. Is it really safe to vacuum? I read somewhere that when you vacuum, it just stirs up the eggs.

[cfasano]

bump
 

[cfasano]

I read this a few weeks ago when I first figured out my DD had pinworms.  But since then she's had two back-to-back UTI's and it turns out pinworms are a very common cause in little girls.  Which doesn't mean they aren't there to do a job but does mean that the harm caused may outweigh the purpose. 

[richella]

Oh mdc, I love you! Why do I waste my time looking for information anywhere else?

[cupcakecutie]

My DS got pinworms 2 years ago while starting early childhood at the elementary school in sept. We also got 2 housecats at that time but don't think it's related.

We've been to various drs, pediatricians and none of them can find the worms!  There are dead ones passed in their stools daily and in mine. My GP insists we do not have them and that there is a thing as "Delusion of parasites".

We have been itching constantly and have tried:

grapefruit seed extract

clove oil (externally)

pumpkin seeds

noxema (externally)

vermox

albenza

pin x...

NOTHING helps!  Doesn't even put a dent in them. Plus I am avid about laundry and keeping nails short, hands clean.

I won't waste anymore $ on drs who don't help   I was thinking of ordering some ivermectin. The paste helps externally.

any advice?

ps- those of you who think pinworms are beneficial obviously never had them!  They also lead to other co-infections, loss of sleep, trouble concentrating and not to mention... Infecting others. They need to be gotten rid of ASAP.  Trouble is drs won't admit the same 2 meds. don't always work.

[weliveintheforest]

Cupcakecutie, have you tried diatomaceous earth?  I gave my kids diatomaceous earth twice a day, as well as a spoonful of finely grated carrots and a handful of pumpkin seeds before breakfast, it was gone pretty quick.  I also put diaper cream on the bum so the worms would get stuck in it and I could wipe them off in the night.  I don't know if that was necessary but I was hoping it would catch the eggs so they didn't drop anywhere.  I was diligent for a week, and then it seemed like they were gone but I kept up the DE for another week.  

[cupcakecutie]

No I haven't yet. Would you happen to know the dosages for a 15 month old, 3yo, 5yo and adults?

I'm not famliar with it other than you need the food grade type. Where do you get it?

Do the pumpkin seeds have to be raw? I can't get my kids to eat them that way.

My next thought would be to try epsom salt baths and zinc oxide ointment (desitin) and some DE

Were you able to cure them?

thanks :)

[weliveintheforest]

Sorry I didn't check back... I forget how much I gave, it was probably 1/2 a tsp per kid each time, and then for an adult I'd probably do a full tsp.  I gave the seeds raw but you can skip them if they won't eat them.  The DE does cause a bit of a cleanse, and my kids went to the bathroom more often but were not uncomfortable.

[crunchynerd]

Originally Posted by wantingagirl2b#4 

Reporting in we got a treatment plan from our ND. He told us to give our 3 yr. old Clarkia-100. 7 drops before each meal 3 times a day and to do this 14 days on and 7 days off for 3 months and to get rid of any inside pets ;0( Wash hands after petting the animals and no licking in the face allowed! Anyone use this product for ridding of these pesky parasites and have sucess with it?

Interesting advice concerning pets. I too assumed we got these from animal feces that got tracked into the house from outdoors, but upon researching, looks like animals have their own species, that aren't the same as ours. Human pinworms are species-specific and can't be gotten from animals. We can only get them from other humans apparently. And here all my life til now, I thought like most people, that we get them from other species, because the human ones look a lot like the pet ones.

[crunchynerd]

Originally Posted by cupcakecutie 

My DS got pinworms 2 years ago while starting early childhood at the elementary school in sept. We also got 2 housecats at that time but don't think it's related.

We've been to various drs, pediatricians and none of them can find the worms!  There are dead ones passed in their stools daily and in mine. My GP insists we do not have them and that there is a thing as "Delusion of parasites".

We have been itching constantly and have tried:

grapefruit seed extract

clove oil (externally)

pumpkin seeds

noxema (externally)

vermox

albenza

pin x...

NOTHING helps!  Doesn't even put a dent in them. Plus I am avid about laundry and keeping nails short, hands clean.

I won't waste anymore $ on drs who don't help   I was thinking of ordering some ivermectin. The paste helps externally.

any advice?

ps- those of you who think pinworms are beneficial obviously never had them!  They also lead to other co-infections, loss of sleep, trouble concentrating and not to mention... Infecting others. They need to be gotten rid of ASAP.  Trouble is drs won't admit the same 2 meds. don't always work.

It appears that like everything else (lice included) evolution and adaptation work in pinworms, too, and they are becoming drug-resistant. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1295391/?page=1

[crunchynerd]

cupcakecutie, about the dr.s not believing you, can you bring your stool samples with dead ones visible, to your docs? I can't see how they could disbelieve you then! Get a kitty litter scoop and scoop it from the toilet into a ziploc bag and take to the doc ASAP? Best wishes. We are horrified of this journey, because we innocently assumed it wouldn't be hard to get rid of, and now after reading everyone's struggles, we know it's possible it will not be easy.

[icountbeans]

I know this thread is old, but it can always use a bump, for sure.  I have a comment that I feel like I need to make. 

There are people who are chosing to allow pinworms to thrive in themselves and their children.  Without addressing the possible advantages of that, these parasites are highly contagious, especially among kids.  It is highly likely that you, or more likely, your kids will infect other people and/or their children.  Since you have no idea what level of harm you can bring to someone else's children, my hope is that you will choose to quarrantine yourselves and your family during that time, as well as notify everyone who comes in contact with you or your home that you are tolerating a pinworm infestation, and let them make their own decision about the risks they wish to take with their own families and kids.

As an aside, I typically use natural treatments, and I am hesitant to give meds to my LO.  We haven't seen our doctor in over a year and a half because I just don't find the visits to be that much more beneficial than my own caretaking.  But for this, I got the OTC meds and handed them out.  They were causing my daughter terrible distress and pain.  Outside of the itching, they can get into the genital area as well, and that is painful for a little girl.  Granted they can't survive there, but they do hurt.  Plus they are crazy contagious, and she could infect her whole preschool. 

[Serafina33]

Originally Posted by icountbeans 

There are people who are chosing to allow pinworms to thrive in themselves and their children.  Without addressing the possible advantages of that, these parasites are highly contagious, especially among kids.  It is highly likely that you, or more likely, your kids will infect other people and/or their children.  Since you have no idea what level of harm you can bring to someone else's children, my hope is that you will choose to quarrantine yourselves and your family during that time, as well as notify everyone who comes in contact with you or your home that you are tolerating a pinworm infestation, and let them make their own decision about the risks they wish to take with their own families and kids.

Amen.   I think anyone should approach pinworms exactly as they approach lice.  EXTREMELY contagious and best to quarantine yourselves from others as much as possible until well past when you think they are all gone, or then inform and let others choose how much risk they wish to take by being around you.