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Firing our ped b/c she circs?

post #1 of 67
Thread Starter 
Just wanted a little input about this:

Both my DH and myself are anti-circ, and we speak openly about this with our family and friends. Getting the truth out there about circ is something very important to me and is always on my mind. That being said, I called my pediatrician's office last week and asked a nurse if there were any peds in the office who don't circumsize. She hemmed and hawed and went around the question saying "It's your parental decision" and "None of our doctors will influence your decision one way or the other" and I finally had to say "I understand that it's my decision. What I'm asking you is the following: do you have any doctor who has never performed a circumcision and will never do one? I am morally opposed to it and want a peditrician who feels the same way". She, of course, responded: "No. No one in our office" and hung up on me.

I now cannot imagine letting our pediatrician, someone I had liked up until this point, touch my children without imagining her torturing babies by circ'ing them. I'm thinking of firing her (and the other 8 peds in the practice) and searching for a pediatrician who has never/will never circ. Do you think this is going to an extreme? I personally hate being a hypocrit about anything, and because I feel so strongly about the evils of circumcision I feel that hiring these pediatricians is like paying them to continue on doing something horrendous.

What do you think? Am I crazy for feeling like this? Should I seek out a family doctor instead (hoping she/he will be less likely to do circs)?
post #2 of 67
I would switch; I might look for a family practice doctor. Though they also are prone to perform circumcision, I have found many practices that don't. We used that as a factor to narrow them down. These doctors also seemed more laid back and more of them were "hands off" when it came to genitals.
post #3 of 67
Also, with a practice that performs circumcisions, I would be afraid that they were uninformed about intact care and the functions of the foreskin. This could be a risk to my sons as they grow (esp if its a family practice since they might stay with them for many years after childhood)
post #4 of 67
nak
I don't think you're crazy, I feel the exact same way about it.
post #5 of 67
I finally asked our family practice doctor if she does circs when she saw DD around 12 months. Her response was that even though there are no medical benefits to the procedure, the social reasons create a demand and she is willing to do it because so many parents want it done.

I honestly didn't expect such a disgusting answer, but I gathered myself the best I could and told her that my principles are too strong to continue to give her our family business. I also told her that I think our country would be significantly more peaceful if so many men weren't violated in their first days here. I asked her to please let us know if she reconsiders.

What I really should do is get off my bum and write her a follow up letter about where I stand. She was a nice enough doctor, and never bugged us about any of our "weird' stuff. I just can't imagine switching off my brain in that way. I'm hoping that detailing the factual atrocity of it might bring her around. Won't hold my breath.
post #6 of 67
In our area, if I limited myself to just a ped or family dr that will not circ, I would have no choices of dr unfortunately.

However, I switched to a family dr who is super duper easy going and open minded. I brought up circ to him several times even though it was not anything near what our visit was about. Finally he laughed and admitted he was "ignorant about the topic" and requested I bring in some info!!! I put together a packet, not too huge but that covered many areas.

Guess what. The first follow up visit (I see him for something unrelated every 6 weeks) he told me there was some really good info in there and stuff he had never thought of. Though he did say he didn't read through all of it like he should.

I saw him again yesterday and he brought it up before I did... and said, "You might be getting a convert here." He then told me that he had another parent bring in a baby with a botched circ and told me details, especially about adhesions. Then he even asked me a couple things about the intact penis!!!

Can I just jump in here and say I am not making this up? Even writing it out I feel like I am so incredibly lucky, like this is a fantasy of mine.

Anyways, I have been trying to figure out how other people can get lucky enough to influence their doctors. Perhaps family doctors are easier, I don't know. I doubt too many people are going to find a doc like mine who says the truth: many docs are not educated on this. I have wondered what would happen if a mom who was really confident and eloquent were to interview a pediatrician or even a family dr and tell them they are very concerned about finding a doctor who is informed on proper intact care. Then, ask if they wouldn't mind taking a quiz, with referenced answers.

I don't know... it might be worth a shot. I know they are out there, but I just don't think there are too many who will not perform them at all.

Unfortunately.
post #7 of 67
I forgot to add that my family doctor does perform them. He even bragged about how well he does them.: But also talked about how well he numbed and how horrible he thinks it is to not numb. So, I would hate to have just checked him off my list, you know?
post #8 of 67
Well, in our case we were able to find 3 practices we were very happy with and they all did not perform circumcisions. SO it was kinda a case of 'all things equal' and availability for us to make a choice. If you don't have that luxury, finding a doc that performs them as ethically as possible (as well as not 'selling the surgery') that would be the way I would go.
post #9 of 67
Thread Starter 
Thanks, all...you've given me a lot to think about! I will certainly do my best to find a non-circ'ing ped or doctor, but am opening my mind to the possibility of this not be a possibility.

What a shame, huh?

Anyway, the input is greatly appreciated!
post #10 of 67
you may have extreme difficulty finding one who has never done it. i think you are being extreme at looking for a doctor like that
post #11 of 67
I don't think it's unreasonable at all.

Good luck finding someone new
post #12 of 67
It all depends on where you live. If you live in a small town or in a high-circ. area, your choices may be limited. Those of us who live in rural areas may have to settle for a doctor who is willing to be educated.
Gridley13, I am sooo impressed with how you are educating your doctor!
Way to go, girl!
post #13 of 67
You're not overreacting at all. At ds's request, we only go to drs that don't circ or recommend them either. It can take a little effort and creativity to find someone, but it's worth it. The dr we've finally found is completely out of the league of all those great drs with the long waiting lists to get into their practices and whatever that we have been seeing. I can't even explain the difference in attitude and knowledge. I feel like I've been dealing with scam artists all this time, and this is the first real dr I've ever seen...except all those scam artists and their scams were board certified! It's like living in the twilight zone...
post #14 of 67
I think its an excellent idea but you might have trouble finding one.

The best we have is a family doctor that strongly encourages parents not to do them and because of that has rarely done it. It still makes me sick.
post #15 of 67
I'm glad to know there are doctors out there who discourage the procedure. What I absolutely DO NOT understand is why they go ahead and perform circs anyway if their discouragement doesn't work. Why don't they refuse if they don't think it's a helpful procedure?? I'm fuming over just the thought of so little backbone. :
post #16 of 67
I know our ped circ's, but he has never pushed or reccommended circing boys. In his "interview" class for pregnant women he remained neutral on the subject. He is a great ped in every other way(pro bf, allows delaying vax, never tried to retract my son) so I wouldn't change for that reason.

If you are able to find one in your area-power to you. There are not very many good peds in this area, I have heard too many horror stories from other moms to change at this point.
post #17 of 67
I don't think it's an unreasonable thing to want, and if you can find a doctor meeting those wishes, I think that's fabulous!

In reality, though, I think doctors who have never done a circ and never intend to are pretty rare, especially in high-circ regions. (I am in one of these I would definitely at least find one who seems aware of proper intact care, and would tend to shy away from practices that seem to promote circumcision.
post #18 of 67
it is SO STRANGE that I just discussed with Joe last night how creepy the thought of the hands that commit such atrocities touching my babes...
BAD ENERGY!

So.. I am anticipating tomorrow when I go fishing through the phonebook and calling up some different DOCS!
I also look at it as an opportunity to enlighten a few receptionists!
Wish me luck...
I am RIGHT THERE WITH YOU OP!!!!
post #19 of 67
I didn't read all the threads, but I am probably the only one taking this approach....I would not leave..I recently had to make a similar choice because one of MY obgyn doc circ and Iwas reallyt torn about allowing the practice to deliver this baby. I know that changing the doctors mind is almost impossible, so I am trying to educate all the other patients. Everytime I go I leave handfuls of pamphlets in the magazines and in the bathroom. I feel like it is my opportunity to reach those that are otherwise off limits.


I fell like if we always stick with thise that fel the same, then we will always be preaching to the choir

JMO
post #20 of 67
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Originally Posted by Telle Bear View Post
I didn't read all the threads, but I am probably the only one taking this approach....I would not leave..I recently had to make a similar choice because one of MY obgyn doc circ and Iwas reallyt torn about allowing the practice to deliver this baby. I know that changing the doctors mind is almost impossible, so I am trying to educate all the other patients. Everytime I go I leave handfuls of pamphlets in the magazines and in the bathroom. I feel like it is my opportunity to reach those that are otherwise off limits.


I fell like if we always stick with thise that fel the same, then we will always be preaching to the choir

JMO
I always meant to take along some pamphlets to DD's doctor visits, and forgot every time.

I agree with you on the preaching to the choir bit, but there is no way I'm going to give money to someone who unscrupulously mutilates little boys. If I can at all help it, anyway.
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