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anyone out there using oak meadow? do you use it alongside aything else? we're using 1 & 2 alongside others.



links in this thread;
movement circle (do each repetition 3x);

sally go round the sun
http://www.head-start.lane.or.us/edu...nd%20the%20Sun

sailor boy
(can't find the link at the moment)

midline activities;
kookaburra
http://kids.niehs.nih.gov/lyrics/kookaburra.htm

grand old duke of york
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_old_Duke_of_York

fingerplays and counting verses (choose a few and do 3x repititions each);
http://www.preschoolrainbow.org/preschool-rhymes.htm

transistion verses(use these to transistion to storytime and other activities);
http://www.preschoolrainbow.org/transition-rhymes.htm

more fun songs;
http://www.theteachersguide.com/ChildrensSongs.htm


link for thread loaded with websites with free multi-cultural fairy and folk tales;
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...60#post9561560
crafts;
wee felt folk
http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/cr_dolls/ar...334417,00.html

finger knitting
http://www.kidscanmakeit.com/AC0023.htm

soap felting
http://www.mielkesfarm.com/felt_soap.htm

about wet on wet watercolor painting
http://www.thewaldorfschool.org/home...nt.asp?id=2562

fairy dolls
http://simmy.typepad.com/echoesofadr..._make_a_f.html

felt balls
http://www.stringpage.com/felt/felt.html

ribbon streamer
http://crafts.kaboose.com/patrioticr...ancealong.html

stacking tic tac toe
http://crafts.kaboose.com/stacking-tic-tac-toe.html

melted crayon stain glass window
http://crafts.kaboose.com/melted-cra...ss-window.html

fall leaf print
http://crafts.kaboose.com/fall-leaf-print.html

fairy tale puppets
http://www.crochetme.com/Aug_Sept_20...r_puppets.html

http://www.craftyarncouncil.com/proj...chproject.html


nature table info and some pretty cheap wood items;
http://www.naturetables.com/
this is a blog about gnomes
http://www.gnometownusa.com/blog/
grimm's tales
http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext01/grimm10.pdf
look for underground workers in this book
http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext01/grimm10.pdf
Alphabet Stories
A "The Magic Spindle"

B "Goldilocks and the Three Bears"
http://www.dltk-teach.com/rhymes/goldilocks_story.htm
C "Dick Whittington and His cat"
http://www.longlongtimeago.com/llta_...ittington.html
D "Hansel and Gretel"
http://www.mordent.com/folktales/grimms/hng/hng.html
E "The Golden Goose"
http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/grimmtales.html
F The Fisherman and His Wife"
http://www.fln.vcu.edu/grimm/fischer_e.html
G "The Golden Goose"
(see above)
H The Three Feathers"

I "The White Snake"
http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/a...hitesnake.html
J "Jack and the Beanstalk"
http://www.ongoing-tales.com/SERIALS...beanstalk.html
K "The Three Languages"

L "The Elves and the Bootmaker"
http://www.rickwalton.com/folktale/bryant30.htm (the elves and the shoemaker)
M "The Valley of the Weavers"

N "The Nail"

O "Mr. Who"

P "The Golden Goose"
(repeat)
Q "The Goose Girl"
http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/goosegirl/index.html
R "Rumplestiltskin"
http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~wbarker/fairies/grimm/055.html
S The White Snake"

T "Mr. Who"

U The Goose Girl"
(repeat)
V "The Valley of the Weevers"

W "The Fisherman and his Wife"
(repeat)
X "The Extraordinary Crossroads"

Y "The Y in the Road"

Z "The Golden Key"

i used donna young's site for organization sheets http://donnayoung.org/forms/index.htm and printed pretty pic's from here http://www.art.com/asp/display-asp/_...2B09856323335B

nature story links;
how the red bird got his color
http://www.natureskills.com/red_bird_story.html
the anxious leaf
http://www.apples4theteacher.com/hol...ious-leaf.html
the story of king frost
http://www.mythfolklore.net/andrewlang/017.htm
winter story links
http://www.apples4theteacher.com/hol...ies/index.html
the proud little apple blossom
http://www.apples4theteacher.com/hol...e-blossom.html
several short stories on spring
http://www.apples4theteacher.com/hol...ies/index.html
math links
nursery rhymes that use telling time,months,days of the week etc.
http://www.apples4theteacher.com/mot...enurseryrhymes

interesting math article about it being a lanquage
http://www.ncte.org/library/files/St...1349Chap01.pdf
abacus the art of calculating beads
http://www.ee.ryerson.ca:8080/~elf/abacus/index.html
math worksheet generator
http://www.teachrkids.com/fronts/curr-2.htm
star maiden http://www.indigenouspeople.net/starmaid.htm

link to indigenous people's literature
http://www.indigenouspeople.net/ipl_final.html
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We are using OM 1 this year; we did OM K last year alongside Enki K. This year I wanted to do OM 1 with Enki 1, but have found that I don't like the Enki/can't make it work/don't want to do it.

So ... we are doing OM 1 as the backbone, but also using Singapore Math 1A/1B, History Odessey Ancient History, Explode the Code, and Handwriting without Tears.

For the most part right now, I've stopped reading the letter stories ... but we are using the pacing for social studies (to do alongside the classical history) and the science/nature. Our math pacing for now also is lining up pretty well with the OM pacing, as we are taking a long time to work with basic addition/subtraction facts through the number 10.

I'm a little bummed that the Enki just didn't work for us this year (not so much because of the money, though that is a downer too, but because I liked a lot about the Enki program and the K curriculum really worked well with us), but I think I'm going to be able to make the OM 1 work well with everything else we are doing.

What are you using alongside the OM 1 & 2?
post #4 of 699
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mylittlewonders i was hoping you'd chime in!
i'm using the om 1 for my 5yr daughter alongside the enki k stories and crafts and the sonlight stories we like, as well as the 'what your kindergardener needs to know.' we are also using italic handwriting and the developing your early learner books from sonlight. we also add anything i feel like we should!

my 7yr son is going to begin using the om 2 this coming week, as the om 1 was waaaay too easy for him and he was bored. we are using the 'what your 1st grader needs to know,' bob jones 1 math, sonlight core 1 & 2 stories (i have the ig and hate it!), italic handwriting, and some other history books.I am also using the enki k with him for the stories and crafts.

my 3 yr old (because we have to include him : )is joining alongside in the om 1 and enki k stories and doing some of the brain development worksheets. he LOVES those things....doesn't follow the directions, but keeps him busy so i can get school done with the others! we are kind of holistic eclectic with our homeschool approach and it works for us. i almost forgot, we are using hooked on phonics deluxe loosely with the eldest 2.

homeschoolmama what are you using?
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We're finishing up with OM1 right now, as last year I used it very loosely and we had more of an unschooling approach and allowed DD to pick out books from the library on subjects that she wanted to learn more about and did a lot of reading, drawing, painting, and playing. We were also very over-scheduled and were out of the house a lot, add to that a high needs baby and a sleep deprived mama and you have OM1 sitting on the shelf collecting dust. The year before last we used OMK.

We will start OM2 in January, though we may start the language arts earlier and I may save the rest of the OM1 science for the spring. So far it is all working well for us and DD loves it! I would really like to see some of the other curriculums (Enki, Sonlight, etc.) first hand to see if there is something else I would like to supplement with.
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Originally Posted by homeschoolmama View Post
We're finishing up with OM1 right now, as last year I used it very loosely and we had more of an unschooling approach and allowed DD to pick out books from the library on subjects that she wanted to learn more about and did a lot of reading, drawing, painting, and playing. We were also very over-scheduled and were out of the house a lot, add to that a high needs baby and a sleep deprived mama and you have OM1 sitting on the shelf collecting dust. The year before last we used OMK.

We will start OM2 in January, though we may start the language arts earlier and I may save the rest of the OM1 science for the spring. So far it is all working well for us and DD loves it! I would really like to see some of the other curriculums (Enki, Sonlight, etc.) first hand to see if there is something else I would like to supplement with.
it's so hard to pick curric. without seeing it first isn't it?

anyone else out there?
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We have Oak Meadow K, 1st, and 2nd grades. I like the suggestions, and the style. It's pretty "easy" in the younger years, and not at all high-pressure, and that's one of the things I like. And looking ahead to the older years, they manage to be right where everyone else is, even still. I also like how much value they put in nature.

One problem I personally have, is that they put a lot of focus on the changing seasons. I live at the equator, and do not have such seasons. And there's only so much of that which we can modify to our own climate, when the whole point of the lesson is the change, the change we don't have. So there's some we skip because it just doesn't apply.
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We don't have quite the problem with seasons as you , but living in coastal southern California, there's not much to be said about seasons here either. Once in a while, we'll get some rain. The mountains in the distance might have snow-caps on them some winters for a while. The nature in Enki is, in my experience, even worse ... but they both seem to be based on the north-eastern US.
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\ The nature in Enki is, in my experience, even worse ... but they both seem to be based on the north-eastern US.
I agree with this - I live in Massachusetts and often think, well, what if I lived somewhere that doesn't experience the four seasons this way?

I'm using OM 1 with my 6 y.o. and while she likes it, I also think she is a bit bored and needs something more structured and directed. I'm just not sure what that would look like right now...
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I'm using OM 1 with my 6 y.o. and while she likes it, I also think she is a bit bored and needs something more structured and directed. I'm just not sure what that would look like right now...
That is why we have decided to use it as our backbone (and really, right now it's for the science/nature, the social studies, and a bit of the math scheduling), and bring in other methods/resources too.

I am hoping to start recorder sometime before the holidays. But, I'm waiting for ds#1's finger strength to, well, strengthen. He is doing so much coloring/drawing and writing, so I know he is getting more "comfortable" with small-motor movement. But, I didn't want to frustrate him by introducing the recorder (or knitting for that matter) too soon. I'm also hoping to reintroduce some of the singing/verses/movement stuff once we get back into our rhythm/schedule. And, I think I am going to start form drawing soon too ... though the OM Heart of Learning doesn't give too much information on that. Does the 1st grade syllabus give more instruction on teaching form drawing or would it be better to buy Donna Simmons' book for 1st-3rd grade?
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We have Oak Meadow K, 1st, and 2nd grades. I like the suggestions, and the style. It's pretty "easy" in the younger years, and not at all high-pressure, and that's one of the things I like. And looking ahead to the older years, they manage to be right where everyone else is, even still. I also like how much value they put in nature.

One problem I personally have, is that they put a lot of focus on the changing seasons. I live at the equator, and do not have such seasons. And there's only so much of that which we can modify to our own climate, when the whole point of the lesson is the change, the change we don't have. So there's some we skip because it just doesn't apply.
instead of seasons, could you focus on festivals and celebrations that occur during those "seasons?" we very obvious seasonal changes and you can tell very well when they switch so it is not a problem for us.
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instead of seasons, could you focus on festivals and celebrations that occur during those "seasons?" we very obvious seasonal changes and you can tell very well when they switch so it is not a problem for us.
That's a good idea! I've always wanted to get more indepth with the equinoxes and solstices but haven't done much yet. I think I'll have to file your idea away as something to start looking into and gathering books.
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That's a good idea! I've always wanted to get more indepth with the equinoxes and solstices but haven't done much yet. I think I'll have to file your idea away as something to start looking into and gathering books.
i did this last year and we never ended up getting half the festivals celebrated that i wanted to! i ended up going through the computer sites i had earmarked and wrote on a blank calendar the festivals and celebrations i wanted to celebrate and then thought as the time came i would just look them up and celebrate them then. that waldorf group is good about talking about upcoming festivals and what people do. i think, all soul's day is next...
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Where did you find most of the information about the different days? Is there a good on-line site that lists most seasonal/religious celebrations? I know the basic ones that are on most calendars, but know very few of, say, the Pagan-based celebrations or more traditional Catholic or Orthodox celebrations. It actually seems like a really nice way to introduce world religions as well as connect celebrations/religions with their dependence upon seasons. (I'm not if that came out too jumbled ... I'm being interrupted by a cranky 16 month old who wants to play with 250 pattern blocks!)
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This year I wanted to do OM 1 with Enki 1, but have found that I don't like the Enki/can't make it work/don't want to do it.
I don't want to hijack the thread, but can you explain more about why you don't like the Enki/can't make it work?

Thanks!

dm
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I don't want to hijack the thread, but can you explain more about why you don't like the Enki/can't make it work?

Thanks!

dm
pick me pick me i know the answer!!! because after you get ALL of the material you it seems like alot of material would be great, but the teacher's guides are just waaaaaaaaaaaaay toooooooo much and then planning everything and everything else : the stories are great though...overpriced,but great!
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pick me pick me i know the answer!!! because after you get ALL of the material you it seems like alot of material would be great, but the teacher's guides are just waaaaaaaaaaaaay toooooooo much and then planning everything and everything else : the stories are great though...overpriced,but great!
: I'll post more about it when the kids are more settled ... the attitude over here is *quite* thick.
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: I'll post more about it when the kids are more settled ... the attitude over here is *quite* thick.
so...i'm not the only one...where is birthbabyjunkie when you need her :
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I don't want to hijack the thread, but can you explain more about why you don't like the Enki/can't make it work?
I wanted to ask the same question!
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I don't want to hijack the thread, but can you explain more about why you don't like the Enki/can't make it work?

Thanks!

dm
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I wanted to ask the same question!
Ok ... hopefully I have a couple minutes to write. Currently the boys are watching The Backyardigans. Yes, it's definitely been one of *those* days.

So, Enki and OM. We used both for Kindergarten. It was very nice as ds#1 seemed to like most all the Enki stories, and it was easy to just read them inbetween the stories from OM K (which he also liked as we love Beatrix Potter around here anyway). The flow was easy and there was very little involved except reading cool stories and drawing a picture once in a while in the main lesson book. So, I thought ... Kinder seems to mesh so well, I'll go ahead and order both the Enki and OM 1st grade materials. :

Well ... the OM stuff is still very self-explanatory, easy to manuveur (sp?), and overall, user friendly. Then I get the Enki in the mail and OMGoodness the sheer amount of stuff is overwhelming! : : :

See, I should back up just a tad. I really like the philosophy behind Enki (and by extension, OM). But, we aren't an "Enki-family". We are also not a Waldorf-family by any stretch of the word. We do try to approach life holistically, which one would think would lend itself to using strictly something like Enki or a Waldorf-based curriculum. But actually, for us and our kids, it means deviating from what would be a traditional Enki or Waldorf curriculum.

That said, I was hoping to be able to mesh the Enki and the OM for first grade, while supplementing math with Singapore (I love the Enki approach, but also am a firm believer in recognizing and knowing how to do "standard" math problems and felt we'd get that better from Singapore), integrating history through a classical approach, and also throwing in some Explode the Code and Handwriting without Tears. I didn't realize how next-to-impossible that might be with the 1st grade Enki and OM. Enki, especially, is very involved. There are 3 curriculum guides to get through to understand the approach to Enki 1. Basically, the K was easy to use without being an "Enki-family". But, it seemed that the buy-in to complete Enki was necessary for 1st grade as the curriculum itself was much more involved.

Combined with using the OM 1 as a backbone and everything else I have mentioned we do, I just can't seem to make it work, at least not yet. I do plan on trying to make the stories work ... but I have to make time at some point in time to read through them all and earmark the ones that either mesh with what we are studying, or that I think will really resonate with ds#1. As of yet, I haven't had the time to even begin.

I'm still not 100% sure that I'm liking the OM 1 either as we've stopped doing the letter stories/main lesson book drawings of letters. But, I do like the science/nature progression (minus the issues surrounding the seasons, but we make due) and the social studies topics. Ds#1 also likes the stories about the four processes (which I'll probably also utilize from Enki), and we are taking math slowly even with Singapore and spending quite a bit of time just doing addition/subtraction through ten as I want him to have a good solid base there. But, the Enki is so involved and there is so much that it seems it needs to be done just on its own.

Hopefully that makes some sense ...
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so...i'm not the only one...where is birthbabyjunkie when you need her :
I can say that at least all 3 of mine picked separate times to 'cop a major attitude ... but even the baby was giving me grief this morning (super cranky baby). The minute he finally fell asleep, the oldest started in. Once he calmed down, ds#2 went nuts. Oh well, the TV is on now! : :
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