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post #1 of 13
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Last night I went to see a screening of (http://thebusinessofbeingborn.com) The Business of Being Born. As you can see on the link, it's a documentary, by Abby Epstein and Ricki Lake (yes, that Ricki Lake) about birth -- the past, present, and problems with birth in the US.

From the movie's website: "Birth: it’s a miracle. A rite of passage. A natural part of life. But more than anything, birth is a business. Compelled to find answers after a disappointing birth experience with her first child, actress Ricki Lake recruits filmmaker Abby Epstein to examine and question the way American women have babies. The film interlaces intimate birth stories with surprising historical, political and scientific insights and shocking statistics about the current maternity care system. When director Epstein discovers she is pregnant during the making of the film, the journey becomes even more personal. Should most births be viewed as a natural life process, or should every delivery be treated as a potentially catastrophic medical emergency?".

From the website of (http://www.cmmidwifery.com/index.htm) Cara Muhlhahn, midwife featured in the film "In this candid and eye-opening documentary, director Epstein and producer Ricki Lake tackle the controversial debate between at-home and hospital births in the U.S. This film reveals shocking facts regarding the historical and current practices of the childbirthing industry contrasted with the realities of childbirth at home."

It was, in brief, amazing. I went in hoping it would be good and it blew.me.away. It was inspirational and thought-provoking and incredible. I can't encourage you enough: see this film. Learn what Ricki and Abby are talking about. Encourage everyone to see this film, it's really that good.

xposted: vaginapagina on livejournal (http://community.livejournal.com/vag.../11709220.html)
post #2 of 13
I saw it this past weekend too, and now I am trying to bring it to MY town.
It was very emotional for me, since I had a csection with my first. I was a bit dissapointed by the lack of VBAC/ICAN info (apparently they had interviewed some ican people, but then left that part out). But, I think all women should go see it.
post #3 of 13
There are two screenings in Atlanta in the next few weeks and I can't wait to see it! I'm hosting (along w/ my 2 partners) a screening on Nov 1 and there is also a screening on Nov 11. We want to get everyone in the state to come to one of them! Is that unrealistic? LOL
post #4 of 13
I'm going this friday and can not wait.
post #5 of 13
Ricki Lake was on The View yesterday talking about this doc. unfortunately, indie stuff like this never makes it to where I live...I hope to be able to see it at some point.
post #6 of 13
I really want to see this...would you believe I live in NYC and it's not coming here????? Upstate, yes, but not to NYC!?
post #7 of 13
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I'm going this friday and can not wait.
The viewing in Houston?
Were you there last night?

What did you think?

I personally was really happy with 90% of the movie but I really wish they had left the director out of the movie :
post #8 of 13
I have a questions for you mamas who have seen this. We (Coalition for Breech Birth) have been planning to bring this to town but then somebody pointed out to me that the section at the end is due to breech presentation. How is it handled? I wish I could see it first before I go offering it to people through CBB.
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I have a questions for you mamas who have seen this. We (Coalition for Breech Birth) have been planning to bring this to town but then somebody pointed out to me that the section at the end is due to breech presentation. How is it handled? I wish I could see it first before I go offering it to people through CBB.

Not a mama (please remember that not all of us here are) but I have seen it, and the c/s is only partly due to breech -- it's also due to the baby being very early, something like 35w.
post #10 of 13
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The viewing in Houston?
Were you there last night?

What did you think?

I personally was really happy with 90% of the movie but I really wish they had left the director out of the movie :
Yes, I was there last night - I was down in the second row in the middle by the woman that asked about cleanup after births

it was pretty good. I was kind of surprised that it was so well done.
post #11 of 13
I don't agree that the C/S was due to the baby being early. At their last U/S (seems like there were several) baby was breech. The good news is that her OB was supportive of homebirth but once she went into labor it seemed to me it was the Mama that wanted to go to the hospital as they were concerned the baby was still breech.
If they were going to transport because the baby was early why even labor at home? Obviously, they knew how far along she was. When labor started it seems if gestational age was the issue they would have gone to the hospital straight away rather than having the MW even come to the house.

Honestly, I wish they had kept this whole piece out of the movie.
I feel it perpetuated the fears. It seems the baby had IUGR even though every U/S found her 50% for growth, the baby only weighed 3 pounds 5 ounches at 35-36 weeks. The Mom was tiny before and during her pregnancy. Rikki even commented on it during the movie that she seemed so small for being as far along as she was, this happened to be the day she went into labor.

When they were interviewing the Mom/Director at the end of the movie she talked about how it was so good that she had a U/S not only because the baby was breech but the cord was around the baby's neck and that he couldn't have handled a vaginal birth because he's so small!!!! Like tiny babies and babies with cords can't be born vaginally :
The Mom/Director went on to have issues BFing and was giving the baby a bottle during the interview at the end.

Don't get me wrong. I really liked 90% of the movie. There was a lot of great information and statistics but the whole 'baby must come cesarean because of breech/cord I really could have done without.

Keri
post #12 of 13
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I don't agree that the C/S was due to the baby being early. At their last U/S (seems like there were several) baby was breech. The good news is that her OB was supportive of homebirth but once she went into labor it seemed to me it was the Mama that wanted to go to the hospital as they were concerned the baby was still breech.
If they were going to transport because the baby was early why even labor at home? Obviously, they knew how far along she was. When labor started it seems if gestational age was the issue they would have gone to the hospital straight away rather than having the MW even come to the house.
My interpretation was that they had the midwife come over because she didn't know if she was in labor or not (i.e. her contractions weren't that strong or regular) and then they picked up in the cab ride.
And yeah, when she was debriefing about it with Ricki, she was talking about IUGR (without putting it in those terms) and said something about the cord around the neck and breech, so yeah, it seems they sort of undid all their hard work showing that birth is normal.
post #13 of 13
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My interpretation was that they had the midwife come over because she didn't know if she was in labor or not (i.e. her contractions weren't that strong or regular) and then they picked up in the cab ride.

That makes sense. I did have a talkative nursling on me so maybe I didn't get that part.

So, yah, I guess you can't have a tiny baby vaginally and we all know you can't have a big baby vaginally :

I think the bfing issues and the baby having a botttle confirmed the statement earlier that C/S sometimes gets in the way of bonding and they may have even said BFing so it proved that point. But I REALLY could have done without that last interview between Rikki and Abby, I agree that it undid all the good stuff. They could have easily put up a small written paragraph that Abby and her baby are just fine. Didn't need to hear Abby confirming that C/S was necessary or see the baby drink from a bottle :
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