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post #81 of 1296
I'm in PA, and if you tell them the kids aren't vaccinated, usually the first thing they want to do is make sure that you know you can have them vaccinated. If you then explain that you're not interested or that you're delaying... well, I haven't had any problems at the two offices I've visited.

I can't remember when they started doing iron sticks, but I know that it's something I always asked for at the ped's office, especially for Bean who has a genetic disorder that can cause severe anemia if he's ill or under a great deal of stress. It's not something I've ever tried to avoid with my kids-- just a little pop and squeeze and they're finished. All three kids were stuck last time I went (so cute, to see the bigger ones arguing with the nurse about sticking Bella-- "She's my sister! She doesn't like that, you leave her alone!" Bella didn't even notice the stick, she was so busy watching her siblings get all up in arms ) but the baby was.. 16 months old or so. They weighed, measured, and plotted the kids and myself on charts. Then I was informed (and oooo so shocked ) that (gasp!) not one of my children was above the tenth percentile for hieght! It was so hard for me not to laugh as I said, "Um, you just measured me-- I am not above the tenth percentile for hieght!!"

In any case, you have to have a risk factor to be on WIC, because being poor isn't enough. I'm fat and anemic with rotting teeth, and I have short, skinny litle kids who tend to be anemic.

I wish I could get the kids to stay out of my knitting stuff. The baby in particular is horrible about it.. but I can knit lovely socks, and if I could sell three or four pairs I could have enough cash to buy some Floravital, which we all desperately need. :

I never did find the PIN. mike will call tomorrow... and we will hope that they are understanding but I'm afraid to hold my breath. : This month is already going to blow extra chunks.
post #82 of 1296
mrskennedy - To get off WIC just cancel your app't. and stop going. That's what I did. When I got food stamps, I found that I wasn't using the WIC checks anymore, esp. because I couldn't get organic with them. But now that finances are even tighter than usual, I figure I need to suck it up and get back on it. In my county they didn't even call to try to get me to sign back up for it.

2Sweeties1Angel - I am so sorry to hear that about your dc. That's unbelievable and horrible.
post #83 of 1296
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In any case, you have to have a risk factor to be on WIC, because being poor isn't enough. I'm fat and anemic with rotting teeth, and I have short, skinny litle kids who tend to be anemic.
Yup. I get WIC because I'm BF my 9 month old. After a year I'll still get it because I'm fat. Funny how they give me a ton of milk and I'm FAT Don't they realize drinking all that milk will only make me fatter?
post #84 of 1296
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Originally Posted by Aura_Kitten View Post
2. NaNoWriMo!!!!!
Sorry, haven't read all your posts... Are you writing a novel/book of some sort? Would love to hear about it!
post #85 of 1296
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Originally Posted by eilonwy View Post
I'm in PA, and if you tell them the kids aren't vaccinated, usually the first thing they want to do is make sure that you know you can have them vaccinated. If you then explain that you're not interested or that you're delaying... well, I haven't had any problems at the two offices I've visited.

I can't remember when they started doing iron sticks, but I know that it's something I always asked for at the ped's office, especially for Bean who has a genetic disorder that can cause severe anemia if he's ill or under a great deal of stress. It's not something I've ever tried to avoid with my kids-- just a little pop and squeeze and they're finished. All three kids were stuck last time I went (so cute, to see the bigger ones arguing with the nurse about sticking Bella-- "She's my sister! She doesn't like that, you leave her alone!" Bella didn't even notice the stick, she was so busy watching her siblings get all up in arms ) but the baby was.. 16 months old or so. They weighed, measured, and plotted the kids and myself on charts. Then I was informed (and oooo so shocked ) that (gasp!) not one of my children was above the tenth percentile for hieght! It was so hard for me not to laugh as I said, "Um, you just measured me-- I am not above the tenth percentile for hieght!!"

In any case, you have to have a risk factor to be on WIC, because being poor isn't enough. I'm fat and anemic with rotting teeth, and I have short, skinny litle kids who tend to be anemic.

I wish I could get the kids to stay out of my knitting stuff. The baby in particular is horrible about it.. but I can knit lovely socks, and if I could sell three or four pairs I could have enough cash to buy some Floravital, which we all desperately need. :

I never did find the PIN. mike will call tomorrow... and we will hope that they are understanding but I'm afraid to hold my breath. : This month is already going to blow extra chunks.
Thanks for the info, mama! Funny though... I don't have any risk factors, and neither does DS. So I wonder what keeps us on WIC, besides the fact that we're poor? Anyway, that's good stuff to know.
post #86 of 1296
to you and your sweet children, mamamoo!!!
post #87 of 1296
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Originally Posted by mrskennedy View Post
Thanks for the info, mama! Funny though... I don't have any risk factors, and neither does DS. So I wonder what keeps us on WIC, besides the fact that we're poor? Anyway, that's good stuff to know.
There are loads of risk factors-- being below the 25th or above the 75th percentile for height or weight (which is screwed up, because a child who is at the 75th for hieght and the 25th for weight is seriously underweight but ineligible-- this is why they recently added bmi charts); breastfeeding is a risk factor, particularly if the mother is anemic. Being under 12 months old is a risk factor. Anemia, tooth decay, PICA, picky appetite, digestive issues... all risk factors. They're usually willing to work with you to find one.

Also, I've never heard of a woman getting WIC beyond the first year of breastfeeding... . The kids, yeah, but for the two months where I was neither pregnant nor nursing a less-than-12-month-old, I was ineligible despite the facts that I was still nursing, still anemic, and most assuredly still fat.
post #88 of 1296
First, a morning to mamamaoo ~ if you haven't been over to the single parents forum yet, check it out.


Now... this morning was just lovely.
However, on my mental back burner is the fact that I have my re-certification for CalWorks MONDAY and - I have no idea where any of my paperwork for it is. : I can't find ANY of my paystubs. I don't have a clue where my vehicle registration is because once my van stopped running I just set the reg somewhere and I need to take it in to prove I have a vehicle (even though it doesn't run )... I get e-bills for pg&e and other utilities but I accidentally deleted all of them ... and I don't know where I put my most recent bank statements. I hate - HATE - all the freaking paperwork. I hate it.

BUT
none of that changes that I had a really great morning.
So ~ :: sparkly happy vibes to everyone!! ::


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Originally Posted by mrskennedy View Post
Sorry, haven't read all your posts... Are you writing a novel/book of some sort? Would love to hear about it!
Nanowrimo.org
November 1st marked the start of National Novel Writing Month ~
~50,000 words - 30 days - 1 month of frenzied creative energy!!~

The first rule of Nano is that you MUST start actually writing on nov 1st, not before, but outlining is ok.
The second is that it must be fiction, not an autobiography or technical manual or anything else.
The third is, Have fun, snack a lot, and find support at nanowrimo.org forums.

It's a blast, seriously.
Right now, this moment, I'm at 6092 words. !!!!!

* off to write!
post #89 of 1296
eilonwy, you know in pa you can reapply online for pa medicaid and foodstamps, right?
post #90 of 1296
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Originally Posted by mommy2maya View Post
eilonwy, you know in pa you can reapply online for pa medicaid and foodstamps, right?
Oh? Where is this? I've only seen the printable apps.
post #91 of 1296
I work as a BF peer counselor at WIC & I've received benefits in 2 states, so here's a bit of "WIC 101"...

As far as risk factors go, that's why they have you fill out that nutrition survey every few months or so, do height/weight, and a finger prick for iron yearly. Almost everyone has at least one small area nutritionally where they are lacking (ie: Hey your diet is great, but try to get more (protein or veggies or whatever). If you are pregnant or nursing that automatically qualifies you. In NY at least you qualify for nursing until 1 yr, at that point unless your pg again you loose WIC for yourself, but the kids still have it. Kids can get it until they are 5. Also, I'm not 100% sure, but if you are disabled you may qualify because of that. Pretty much any "excuse" will do as a reason if you qualify income wise.

The checks vary a bit depending on the kids age and the state you're in. For example, from 12-24 mo kids get whole milk after which it will probably change to 1% or skim. And in VT I could get natural peanut butter, but NY only offers the fake kind. NY doesn't offer organic milk, but you can get he stuff that's rBST free though. And I believe OR offers organics. You can also usually substitute items -- like instead of getting fake pt btr I get an extra 1 lb of dried beans. Many places offer Farmers Market checks in the summer as well. Not a lot...we got $29 last year...but hey it's something.

Other resources our WIC office offers are:

~ Breastfeeding resources -- Two CLCs on staff, a dozen BF Peer Counselors, free breast pumps, SNS, etc, everyone who signs up for peer counseling gets the book "Breastfeeding 101" and a bunch of other educational resources.

~ Community health days -- they have carseat checks, games, prizes, last year they passed out pedometers to the parents & bucket/shovel/sunglass/beach ball packs to the kids

~ Free toothbrushes once a year for all kids (they give them out at the recert appts)

Honestly, I don't use everything we get on our checks. The baby cereal for example -- who the heck has a baby who can eat 3 BOXES of baby cereal a month? I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but for our family that's way more than we need. So stuff like that which we don't use, or don't need as much of like the juice & sometimes the dry cereals gets donated to the food bank. Also, if you find yourself drowing in milk, ask if you can get dry milk instead. I did this for awhile, before we had our chest freezer to store the excess. I always had dry milk handy for cooking and what we didn't use we donated.

I love my job & feel really blessed to work in one of the *good* WIC offices. It will probably take 10 years, but once the new guidelines they passed for WIC go into effect I think the program will REALLY become a help to families. They are supposed to be working towards scaling back on the dairy and providing more whole grains, fruits, & veggies.

To quit it just call, cancel your appointment, & tell them you'd like to be removed from the program.
post #92 of 1296
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Originally Posted by mrskennedy View Post
Oh? Where is this? I've only seen the printable apps.
Yeah, definately-- you can do it at state.pa.us, and it's under 'living in pa' and 'services' or something like that. The trouble is actually getting to the office... it's a real PITA, especially since we're trying to move. :
post #93 of 1296
We're having a good day... I found a couple of very kind deals on DiaperSwappers to trade some of our old fitted diapers for covers for DS, and borrowed a whole bunch of 3T clothes from my friend Heidi, whose kid just did the same growth spurt from 3T to 4T. I feel like I dodged a bullet!

Thystle I missed your post before, but we're expecting a little boy and could really use any extra newborn clothes you might have that need a home. I have saved everything in all the other sizes, but when I was packing away 0-3 and 3-6 I was still in the "OMG, I'm never having another kid, EVER!" PPD phase and didn't save as much as I should have.

Sonrissa We'd absolutely be interested in any information you know of about rural PAs and loan forgiveness. Our 'Plan' (hatched back when we were graduating, before we found out we had a surprise on the way) was to both work and live frugally (you know, without any broken teeth or dying cars, right?), pay down our loans, and then pay off a mortgage on some land in the country and save to build our own strawbale, energy-efficient house. So working rurally would be ideal for us. DH is meeting with the PA Program advisors this week, and checking out what he'd have to do to be admitted (his grades weren't great during his BA, since this was pre-medication) and what the costs would be, so I'll have him ask them as well.
post #94 of 1296
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Originally Posted by janerose View Post
The checks vary a bit depending on the kids age and the state you're in. For example, from 12-24 mo kids get whole milk after which it will probably change to 1% or skim. And in VT I could get natural peanut butter, but NY only offers the fake kind. NY doesn't offer organic milk, but you can get he stuff that's rBST free though. And I believe OR offers organics. You can also usually substitute items -- like instead of getting fake pt btr I get an extra 1 lb of dried beans. Many places offer Farmers Market checks in the summer as well. Not a lot...we got $29 last year...but hey it's something.
Now see, in PA there's no stipulation as to what sort of milk you get-- the only issue is if you want to get lactaid, you have to have a script for it and it must be stated on the check (we did this for boobah for a while before we realized that drinking lactaid made her want to drink regular milk if she ran out of it... and that is SOOO yucky for ALL of us . But yeah-- you choose whether to buy whole, 2%, skim, or whatever. Bean drinks whole or 2%, mike drinks 1% or skim, and I cook with 1% or 2%. It's probably because PA is one of the fattest states in the union. The checks do stipulate that you can get beans or peanut butter, except for kids under 24 months and pregnant women (they can only get beans). We can get natural peanut butter but not organic-- we like Crazy Richard's (it doesn't get that whole concrete thing going on at the bottom, even when you skim oil from the top).

I missed farmer's market checks this year (my date was toward the middle of the month and our office ran out quickly ), but before... it was like $25 for each child over 2 and for me, or perhaps $20 for the kids and $25 for me. I just remember thinking that it was an insane amount of money and we had soooo many veggies. We made chicken soup, apple sauce, squash soups... sooo good. And of course the kids just inhale carrots and apples and asparagus and brocolli and such.

Other resources our WIC office offers are:

~ Breastfeeding resources -- Two CLCs on staff, a dozen BF Peer Counselors, free breast pumps, SNS, etc, everyone who signs up for peer counseling gets the book "Breastfeeding 101" and a bunch of other educational resources.

~ Community health days -- they have carseat checks, games, prizes, last year they passed out pedometers to the parents & bucket/shovel/sunglass/beach ball packs to the kids

~ Free toothbrushes once a year for all kids (they give them out at the recert appts)

Honestly, I don't use everything we get on our checks. The baby cereal for example -- who the heck has a baby who can eat 3 BOXES of baby cereal a month? I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but for our family that's way more than we need. So stuff like that which we don't use, or don't need as much of like the juice & sometimes the dry cereals gets donated to the food bank. Also, if you find yourself drowing in milk, ask if you can get dry milk instead. I did this for awhile, before we had our chest freezer to store the excess. I always had dry milk handy for cooking and what we didn't use we donated.

I love my job & feel really blessed to work in one of the *good* WIC offices. It will probably take 10 years, but once the new guidelines they passed for WIC go into effect I think the program will REALLY become a help to families. They are supposed to be working towards scaling back on the dairy and providing more whole grains, fruits, & veggies.

To quit it just call, cancel your appointment, & tell them you'd like to be removed from the program.[/QUOTE]
post #95 of 1296
while we're on the subject of WIC - does anyone know when the new WIC food plans are going to be phased in???/? I am so looking forward to new foods!!!!
post #96 of 1296
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Originally Posted by eilonwy View Post
Yeah, definately-- you can do it at state.pa.us, and it's under 'living in pa' and 'services' or something like that. The trouble is actually getting to the office... it's a real PITA, especially since we're trying to move. :
I think that it is worth your children's dental health to actually get to the office. Hell, even if you apply ONLY for medicaid, you don't even have to GO to the office.
post #97 of 1296
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Kristina... see above. I might have some stuff that would work for all of you and I could go through and pick out more gender neutral stuff.
If you've got a couple pair of pants or some shirts in 3T that would be great. With dd things get more tricky. She is wearing at least a size 7, but possibly an 8 for pants and needs an 8 for most shirts to be long enough. She is also very picky about how things fit so shopping trips with her can be a nightmare! I'm thinking I will probably be looking through what I have in patterns and what patterns will be on sale for $1 in the next week or so. Then getting some courdury and denim to make most of her pants. I'm going to be checking ads for sales on sweatpants and hoping to get by Goodwill as well. Our store has really good prices on kids clothes and every week a certain color tag is half off. I'm waiting until closer to my edd to worry about clothes for the bump. If, hopefully, we are in FL then I might need a few warmer weather tiny things, but that's it. I kept the vast majority of the tiny baby clothes from both kids so we are in pretty good shape for the first little bit.

In other news dh has an interview either tonight or in the morning whenever the guy can see him. It's for a video editing job that would take him on site for at least a couple weeks at a time. Not so great since I have no friends around here, but with no work after Thanksgiving it's not something we are going to turn down either. I might just have to go begging in FYT for someone to help me with the monkeys if things get hairy with this pg.
post #98 of 1296
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Just checking in this morning.

After all this intense stuff this may seem so small, but I think it bothered me enough to be relevant.

You all know that I am poor to the extreme. I also have Celiac disease (and type1 diabetes and thyroid disease), so the foods I eat, breads, crackers and cereals, are SOOOOOO expensive compared to non-glutenfree stuff. Well, I bought a bread mix (my fav) and was so looking forward to making it. The loaf lasts me about a week and I only allow myself 2 loaves a month. So I take the eggs out to warm, get everything else ready, open the package and dump it out---and no freakin yeast! You cannot make bread w/o yeast. This was on a 'very bad day' in the dreaded October. So I was crestfallen. The next day I called the 1800#. They were dismissive and told me to take it back to the store, and to somehow make sure that the replacement had the yeast packet in it!?! Well, for me to bring it back tothe store would have cost me 2.50 for the bus and 3+ hours of my time. Um, sorry, but I want my replacement delivered.
Did you get your replacement bread?
We are gluten free in our family. We have 2 kids with celiac disease maybe 3 he is getting tested on friday and maybe me. I tell you it has really damaged our budget for food. The one thing I did was a lot of research. I kept on reading do not eat oatmeal because of the cross contamination. Well, what I wanted to know is how much is cross contaminated and how many people are effected by it guess what I found out? If you have celiac's disease you have a .00028% chance of being effected by oatmeal and by chance I found out wheat starch you have a .00056% chance. So we eat oatmeal and some products with wheat starch. My baby has an immediate reaction to gluten and neither of these two thing have effected her yet.
post #99 of 1296
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Originally Posted by mommy2maya View Post
I think that it is worth your children's dental health to actually get to the office. Hell, even if you apply ONLY for medicaid, you don't even have to GO to the office.
There are NO medicaid-accepting dentists within a three hour drive of us. Not one.
post #100 of 1296
I got 2 checks in the mail today--one for $132.85 from GPT stuff I did in Sept and the other for $153 from the bank b/c I requested a withdrawal by check. Then I gave them both to BIL b/c he wrote a check for our fuel oil bill yesterday. $407--I'd already given him some, but was waiting for these checks for the rest. Anyway, he didn't expect me to pay it all back, but I did b/c I felt it was the right thing to do. Plus I feel bad for getting so much assistance--the only reason we make it at all is b/c we get FS, TANF, and SSI. We also get medicaid and WIC, but I'm canceling the WIC, and we haven't had to use the medicaid--thankfully b/c it means we're not sick! Anyway, even though I'd been saving for the oil bill for months, knowing it wouldn't be small, I feel broke now. I'm not. But it's still not a good feeling. I wanted to get 1 thing for DS for Christmas and one for DH. But I don't think that's going to happen. Now, DS won't care. He'll be 9MO by then and he'd just as soon play with boxes and paper than any new toys!
But I feel bad b/c it's been drilled into me that parents get their kids presents, and DH needs a new PC keyboard. I could have let BIL pay whatever he was going to toward the oil bill. But I couldn't. I'm glad I did what ultimately will make me feel better by paying the whole thing myself. But the whiny part of me wishes I hadn't.
Ok. Sorry for all that. I just thought that if anyone would understand, it would be y'all!
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