My first vaccine "dilemma"- Advice and information needed - Page 3

[MsGrizzle]

Originally Posted by Gitti

If you really feel that you should take some vitamin C every day, make it a whole foods vitamin C NOT Sodium Ascorbate. From things I've read, it will cause an imbalance.

I think the issue is that you also want bioflavonoids (spelling?). I seem to remember reading about this is the giant SA thread in this forum - possibly about getting corrsponding bioflavonoid powder to mix with it? It is something I've meant to look into but haven't.

The chewable form that most people are probably talking about (Natural Factors is the one I'm thinking about) has the bioflavonoids, but I've read here that the chewables are bad for tooth enamel so we use it sparingly.

[DarkHorseMama]

Originally Posted by prancie

Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong, but your unborn baby will not be at risk if you get pertussis, and once it's born and breastfeeds he or she will have a passive immunilty to it. I think I had pertussis while pregnant in my 2nd trimester. It was not fun, but do-able. It's milder in adults. That said, I am not sure I had it. I only realized after the fact when researching vaccines. I had had no idea that pertussis is so common!

Another pregnant w/ pertussis mama chiming in. I had it during my first trimester and while it sucked, the worst of the issue was setting off my gag reflex (which was already a bit twitchy from 1st trimester stuff) and losing continence (again, first trimester issues). I recall several times ending up with wet pants and hanging over the toilet by the end of a coughing spasm. Other than the injury to my dignity, everything was fine.

[Tracy]

fwiw---Pertussis's peak season in north america is the late summer early Fall. August September October

so we're in the winding down stages seasonally speaking. doulbe check with your health department for that piece of info.

[wallacesmum]

Check out the SA thread. But we get ours through Vitaglo.com, and add it to our green shake (banana, strawberry, pineapple, parsley, chard/spinach/kale, sesame seeds, flax meal, juice, water), which has a lot of natural bioflavanoids. Also, ds loves it so it is an easy way to get all that stuff into him. I know a lot of people take acerola cherry to get b-f as well. When we are sick we will sometimes take SA just in water, because we are trying to zap something. (I like it partly because it keeps me regular)

That all might seem a bit OT, but I think that is probably the way to handle any concern about pertussis.

Edited to add - I think we might try to beef up the b-f in that mix, maybe with cherry.

[Emmeline II]

Originally Posted by ELTAZ

My dd was 4 when she got Pertussis (despite being fully vaxed - yes, I didn't learn about vaxing until ds came along). It was awful coughing, just awful... and I finally took her in after 12 weeks of it. (It went away after 6 weeks, but then came right back.) We put her on antibiotics and it was gone SO fast! I really wish I would've known it was Pertussis earlier, so I could've treated it appropriately so we wouldn't have had to deal with the coughing and sleepless nights.

Antibiotics are primarily helpful in preventing "sharing" pertussis if given in the first two weeks, and do not "cure" pertussis.

Pertussis is caused by bacteria that attach themselves to the cilia (little hairs) that line the respiratory tract. These bacteria produce a potent toxin that inflames the respiratory tract and prevents the cilia from functioning properly. There is an incubation period of 5 to 21 days after exposure (7 to 14) days while the bacteria multiply, then 1-2 weeks of cold like symptoms and a mild cough begins that gradually worsens.The antibiotics can kill the bacteria but not the toxin that is causing the symptoms and do not alter the clinical course of the illness. The cilia likely had not yet grow back before the second illness.

The pertussis component of the vaccine is so highly reactive that I do not see it a the lesser risk than remaining unvaccinated.

[columbusmomma]

Originally Posted by Emmeline II

Antibiotics are primarily helpful in preventing "sharing" pertussis if given in the first two weeks, and do not "cure" pertussis.

Pertussis is caused by bacteria that attach themselves to the cilia (little hairs) that line the respiratory tract. These bacteria produce a potent toxin that inflames the respiratory tract and prevents the cilia from functioning properly. There is an incubation period of 5 to 21 days after exposure (7 to 14) days while the bacteria multiply, then 1-2 weeks of cold like symptoms and a mild cough begins that gradually worsens.The antibiotics can kill the bacteria but not the toxin that is causing the symptoms and do not alter the clinical course of the illness. The cilia likely had not yet grow back before the second illness.

The pertussis component of the vaccine is so highly reactive that I do not see it a the lesser risk than remaining unvaccinated.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO SAY THAT THE PERTUSSIS COMPONENT IS HIGHLY REACTIVE? THANKS, I'M STILL LEARNING!

[alegna]

Originally Posted by columbusmomma

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO SAY THAT THE PERTUSSIS COMPONENT IS HIGHLY REACTIVE? THANKS, I'M STILL LEARNING!

It means that that vaccine causes a lot of reactions.

-Angela